DACREGATE

Originally posted by TheDailyPlanet
I AM AGAINST MURDER AND VIOLENT CRIME.

I AM AGAINST THE USE OF VIOLENT METAPHORS IN THE INTERESTS OF THE PREVENTION OF VIOLENT CRIME COMMITTED BY READERS WITH UNSOUND MINDS.

A figure of less than 0.5% of the Daily Mail readers are mentally ill in the psychotic predisposition afflicted, they see these "knives out" headlines, and articles peppered with them in article texts, as triggers to commit their violent crime. Even 0.1% of 5,500,000 readers (printed edition) equates to 5,500 people. Not once was the knife metaphor used prior to July 2nd 2001 in headlines, not once. Then, look at the obsession that crept into headlines subsequent to this date.

I am not the one who is deluded. It is you who may be suffering from the early onset of 'Angular Gyrus Syndrome', why don't you read my previously typed note, we want the knife crime to STOP.

There is a problem with VIOLENT METAPHORS printed in millions of copies of newspaper. It leads to VIOLENT CRIME.

"Over the moon" is a perfectly acceptable metaphor.

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You've not only got a very selective take on the literalism involved with Angular Gyrus Syndrome (they only interpret knife metaphors literally, apparently) but you've being very selective in the ways the syndrome can manifest itself. It seems that you're only really highlighting any literalism connected to AGS and not anything else. For example, where is the agraphia in those guilty of these knife crimes? Where is the clinical depression often attached to AGS?

Over the moon wouldn't be a metaphor to someone with AGS though, Daily Planet, that's the point behind the literalism connected with AGS: it's not interpreted as a metaphor at all.

Poster m0r1arty, (a few posts back), Brilliant post man! See you soon, that's it from TheDailyPlanet for tonight, back very soon!

There are two threads which have vanished when I tried to update or post to them. It's OK, there's probably valid reasons.

They are:-

Wow - "Get Younger Juice" - IS THIS FOR REAL?

Why I allege that a £1.6bn betting corporation literally stole £100's of millions of pounds from it's customers.

If anyone can help find the threads, it'd be good, if not I'll save them back for when we set up our two internet newspapers, one for the UK, and one for worldwide. They go live in less than 5 months. It's a really exciting time ! The realisation of years and years of work, in my hope to set up the equivalent of the next 'Virgin'. Goodnight.

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Another flaw in this argument is that the triggers are meant to be coming from media headlines. This is problematic for two reasons: firstly, print media which due to it's nature relies on headlines more than any other media formats in decline: circulation figures are worryingly low for the industry with a lot of cuts and job losses over the last few years. quite a marked contrast to the boom period of the mid to late-1990s where print saw an explosion* of new titles and an expansion across genres and demographics.

And yet, according to this theory, headline based media is able to have this pull when it's at its least influential for many years?

Secondly, let's look at the demographics of those that commit knife crime. Whilst there are tragedies involved in various demographics, the bulk of knife crime is committed by the young who are also either proles, lumpen-proles or even school age. This is not a big market for news generally and for print media even less. It never has been and the allure of print-based news has dropped even further during the emergence of new media and the rampant rise of 'soft news' such as 'gossip and celebrity-based' news.

Due to new media, we are now even more selective about what we want to glean from the news. Now is precisely the worse time in mass media history for some sinister power to be feeding us news as arguably we have more choice than ever as to how we digest news and what news we want to digest if we are interested in the news. Look at the rise in things like news feeds and subscriptions (again, for those that are actually interested in news in the first place) - we can now pick and choose what we want to read and hear in ways that we couldn't do before.


Seriously, this whole theory is flawed beyond belief.


* don't take that the wrong way AGS sufferers - it's just a figure of speech.

Expert research to be found on the internet has shown that metaphors, if not understood figuratively, can be taken literally. That's why the Knives were out front page headline of July 2nd 2001 was such a nightmare, the day of the softly softly approach to marijuana in London - marijuana will only have a tendency to expand metaphorical comprehension in the Angular Gyrus region of the brain, as routed through to several other brain areas with expansion in neural nets depth of thought analysis and processing (when someone's stoned).

Mr. Paul Dacre, is the man I spent £50 in a taxi delivering a hand written letter to, many years back, to ask him to stop printing pictures of a now dead couple (suicide) called Rosemary and Fred West, accompanying pictures of the youngsters Holly Wells and Jessica Chapman.

I have never heard "voices" in my life, or suffered from mental illness bar one period of psychotic breakdown in June 1996 and one period of basically feigned mental illness in 1998. Only twice have I heard sounds internal to my mind that I would consider to have been something like "voices". Years back, I heard sound of girls reaching almost impossible but yet possible "peaks of ecstacy" "in my head" and it sounded like it was real, going on. That was years and years ago. The only other time I'd say I've heard a voice was about 2 months ago.

David English is dead, he is the late editor of the Daily Mail. I heard a voice in my head, and it was him and he said "Robin, you let me down", in a grave, slow voice. Robin Esser is the Executive Managing Editor of the Daily Mail newspaper, and the late Sir David English never printed "knife metaphor cacophemisms" in its newspages' headlines, not once, nor I believe in it's article texts.

I do not see why I should visit the British Library to prove this.

If I am wrong, it is up to the Daily Mail to prove that knife metaphors were used prior to July 2nd 2001. The Daily Mail must be called to account, immediately. If they do not pay, they will be sued until they go into bankruptcy.




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Originally posted by TheDailyPlanet
I have never heard "voices" in my life, or suffered from mental illness bar one period of psychotic breakdown in June 1996 and one period of basically feigned mental illness in 1998. Only twice have I heard sounds internal to my mind that I would consider to have been something like "voices". Years back, I heard sound of girls reaching almost impossible but yet possible "peaks of ecstacy" "in my head" and it sounded like it was real, going on. That was years and years ago. The only other time I'd say I've heard a voice was about 2 months ago.

As Deborah Meaden likes to say on Dragon's Den: for that reason, I'm out.

I honestly think that this has more relevance to your theorising than any amount of AGS or sinister motives behind the press.

I'm not trivialising your past health issues, if anything, I'm giving it a little more consideration than you yourself are doing.

To be honest, Merriman, and by the way I don't like your picture, I don't know what the hell you're on about, and I don't like typing things like this, but I'd advise people to ignore your posts, and get on with the culture without knives and without dogs being trained to attack, and without violent crime.

I can assure you that I am now much happier with the type of news I am now receiving in my press email inbox, and I am sure we can make it so it stays like this.

I've been there, taking Haloperidol, back in 1996, but you should have taken the anti-cholinergic receptor inhibitor, the Procyclidine Hydrochloride, alongside. I avoid the ampethamine, that the Daily Mail posted an article about on their website, as being a possible good thing to prescribe to millions of kids worldwide, Methylphenidate Hydrochloride.

If ever my life is in trouble, I always know there is a soft drug called skunk or white widow marijuana, I believe high quality skunk to be the most powerful drug (the soft drug) known to man.

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Originally posted by TheDailyPlanet
If ever my life is in trouble, I always know there is a soft drug called skunk or white widow marijuana, I believe high quality skunk to be the most powerful drug (the soft drug) known to man.

Few individuals who smoke marijuana experience psychosis afterward. However, when marijuana-related psychosis does occur, it may be a warning sign that more psychotic episodes could occur.

[snip]
The study found that an episode of marijuana-induced psychosis is not innocuous—it often presages subsequent psychotic episodes and a diagnosis of a schizophrenia-spectrum disorder.

Mikkel Arendt, Ph.D., a fellow at the Center for Basic Psychiatric Research at the University of Aarhus in Denmark, and coworkers used the Danish Psychiatric Central Register to identify patients treated for a first marijuana-induced psychotic episode between 1994 and 1999. There were 535 such patients. The researchers then followed those patients for at least three years to determine how many of them experienced subsequent psychotic episodes and how many could be diagnosed with a schizophrenia-spectrum disorder.

The researchers found that 77 percent of the subjects incurred subsequent psychotic episodes and that 45 percent could be diagnosed at some time within the next three years or more with a schizophrenia-spectrum disorder. Moreover, of the 45 percent who developed a schizophrenia-spectrum disorder after experiencing marijuana-induced psychosis, 37 percent received such a diagnosis within three years and the remaining eight after three years.

Psychiatry Online

Daily Planet a few things.

On another thread you recently started you totally ignored my input, even though it was the only input besides yours.

Even though I have qualifications in the subject, working experience, and showed you why what may to an outsider seem like a conspiracy was in fact just normal modus operandi. This was about Pensions.

Now Before Financial Advice I worked within Mental Health Services and such like, and besides that Psychology Psychiatry is one of my favourite hobbies, probably because I grew up with it affecting most of my childhood with a couple of family members. I am probably trying to understand more some of the events and situations that happened when I was young.

So I know about this subject to, and in much depth.

Smoking Weed at a party is fine, a couple of times a month for a year or two in college is fine for most, when younger.

But you have admitted that you have had Auditory Hallucinations, Mental Health Episodes in the past, on Meds or prescribed them, and also really seem convinced as Miriam Points out you are on a "Mission" as such. You even agreed you have acted out fantasies, that is behaviourally represented a delusion when you "feigned" an episode....

There is also a clear indication in your writings and approach to a bubbling up of Illusions of Grandeur, from experience in this field, I would watch those thoughts very closely, and be aware of when they increase as it is often a sign of an "Event" being very close to manifesting, when they increase a lot.

LEAVE THE SKUNK alone.

ANYONE who already has a predisposition to Psychosis, as you have agreed to yourself, is at a high risk of creating further problems in their life.

Am I saying totally trust the head docs, and their Pharmacy brothers in some meds poisoning regimes.... no.

But don’t trust your current alternative either.

On the thrust of your concerns, wanting to stop murders, and stabbings etc, this is noble. But maybe your approach is not going to reap those desired outcomes and you are wasting a lot of your time.

Get clean, stable, ignore the news for a while, and take a more MIcro than Macro view. Use your passion to get into if possible Youth Work, you can’t fight or change the Big Publications. But you could (if and when able to stay stable for a norm) guide and lead young people who might want to carry a knife around to be in the "Hood" or to "protect themselves" to see a different way.

This approach will I am sure stop any feelings of frustration at wanting to make that change in society, and not being able to. You really could lead those who may use knives in a violent way from doing so.

Surely that’s what you want to do?

On the general thrust of what you say, I don’t dispute the power of the Media to affect behaviour and LIKE cannabis may trigger people to do things they might not otherwise in the right circumstances.

But this is not just Knives; it’s all the language we see in the Media.....

"Killer Dogs" are all dogs killers? No. Etc Etc and this goes on and on.

This is everywhere but we cannot change it no matter how hard you try.

I suggest you start maybe making people know about this

Happy News and focus on this for a while, ignore the MSM and Conspiracy for a while, take a deep breath, step back, and see what you can do to make YOURSELF safe.

Your literal way of interpreting things is causing you to not see the woods from the trees, and it seems a pity for someone with such a desire and passion to make things safer for all, to indeed themselves become a danger to their own health.

I also think maybe you should explore some counselling for PTSD for the event that happened, when younger, and I am pretty sure that it did not happen to you but you witnessed it. If you can make the intensity of that memory fade a bit it will help enormously.

One thing I have learned in life to my own expense, and I was very guilty of it myself for a while, you really can’t save others until you save yourself first.

You are as important as those affected by the horrors of Knife Crime today, the innocence you lost when this "Event" happened is as important to protect, heal and save as any future victims.

I genuinely wish you well in this, and I hope you are at least open to reading what I have said and at least considering it, even if you don’t agree with all of it.

Just as many don’t agree with what you are saying about this but you know you are right?

Sometimes the same is true for ourselves as well, and what others have to offer so just consider than my friend.

Kind Regards,

Elf

There is a member who is very very open about similar issues on ATS and he has a lot of respect for his courage from me, have a peek:Im a Marty though it is slightly different imho state than you experience, much similarities are their though as these things overlap, I know he is open to talking to you on a u2u if you would like to. Me too.

Originally posted by TheDailyPlanet
To be honest, Merriman, and by the way I don't like your picture,

Tough. And not a little ironic given your confession about your use of skunk.

I don't know what the hell you're on about,

Really, because despite my barely passable grammar, my writing is a little more cohesive, critical and, more importantly, likely than your own.

and I don't like typing things like this, but I'd advise people to ignore your posts,

Which is tantamount to a creating a 'forum gang'. Nice.

and get on with the culture without knives and without dogs being trained to attack, and without violent crime.

You've missed the various threads where I've posted that I'm against violent crime and against the use of dogs in crime? I'm hardly surprised as you appear to have 'tunnel vision' and really only see what suits your argument.

I can assure you that I am now much happier with the type of news I am now receiving in my press email inbox, and I am sure we can make it so it stays like this.

If ever my life is in trouble, I always know there is a soft drug called skunk or white widow marijuana, I believe high quality skunk to be the most powerful drug (the soft drug) known to man.

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It obviously is powerful. Well done.

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"KNIVES ARE BEING SHARPENED, IN THE CONTEXT OF THE PREPARATION FOR KNIVING.
KNIVES ARE OUT, KNIVES COME OUT, KNIVES OUT, BLOOD BATH, THE GLOVES ARE OFF,"

Never use these phrases in newspapers on in any media, or people will continue to be murdered or attacked with knives, or punched etc.

"Gloves are off" Suzy Fowler Watt said it as a top Headline on BBC LOOK EAST, leading to the punching of a popstar, and the punching to death of another person.

"Knives are out, Nick Robinson, BBC News". This led to confirmed data of 3 murders, and possibly up to 6 (data unknown), and God knows how much other non-fatal knife crime.

Daily Mail newspaper printed verbatim the sentence "Sharpened knives anyone?" [this means "Shall we stab him?"] THIS LED TO AT LEAST 2 MURDERS (CONFIRMED DATA), PROBABLY MORE WHERE DATA IS UNKNOWN.

"Rape Girl, Stoned to Death" (published by Daily Mirror) and "Rape Girl, 13, Stoned to Death" (published by Daily Mail), led to the gang rape of a 14 year old by a group of feral youths stoned on marijuana. It was TOTALLY OBVIOUS THAT THAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN.

THOSE ARE PHRASES THAT SHOULD NOT BE USED, BECAUSE THEY ARE EFFECTIVE INCITEMENTS.

NOTICE HAS BEEN SENT TO DAILY MAIL DIRECTORS

(Due to knife crime incitements, further information search in Google "KNIFE METAPHORS")

The documents requesting GBP 72.5 million are being prepared in the form of "debit note / invoice" but will not be now with you until Tuesday 16th March am. We can accept payment in instalments such as GBP 7.25 million per month. You will have 14 days to give agreement to pay, otherwise with regret we will need to send a bankruptcy petition.

Elf said:- Now Before Financial Advice I worked within Mental Health Services and such like, and besides that Psychology Psychiatry is one of my favourite hobbies, probably because I grew up with it affecting most of my childhood with a couple of family members. I am probably trying to understand more some of the events and situations that happened when I was young. So I know about this subject to, and in much depth.



I know of HUGE numbers of cases of SUICIDE after people were given drugs by doctors which RUINED THEIR LIVES. Over 1,800 people a year are dying needlessly after taking such drugs. The Government is being ripped off to the tune of BILLIONS OF POUNDS A YEAR by dodgy pharmaceutical companies. The scandal will be broken in my forthcoming newspaper, which will be online nationally and internationally within months, now that we are near to raising the £150k target for launch.

Here's a bit about what I know about drugs:-

By TheDailyPlanet

According to (my) research, 10mgs of Procyclidine Hydrochloride will take anyone out of suicidal depression within 20 minutes. Meanwhile big pharmaceutical companies (some of them) around the world are ripping off the government/s for billions upon billions of dollars with pills costing pounds each - that it has been shown have in cases caused suicide, obesity and all associated problems that may arise in the obese person including diabetes, premature death, reduced longevity, and often have debilitating implications for such person's sex lives.

Trihexyphenidyl is in a similar class of drug family to 'Procyclidine' - the anti-cholinergic family, acting on the acetyl-choline receptors of the brain, it's effect in simple terms is to promote dopamine and serotonin activity, with a whole host of other functions too. According to reports during the research undertaken - and this knowledge is known about by some experts in the field - can induce increased excitement and has a sex-drive boosting effect when dissolved under the tongue at a dose of 5mgs, or just one higher strength tab (according to reports). If taking chemicals, never overdose on them, extremely dangerous to do with the anti-cholinergic family, including hallucinationary and nightmares (caused by like a "brain overload"), even risk of death at high overdoses.

Orphenadrine is an anti-cholinergic with which you will not find anti-depressant lifting properties, it has anti-cholinergic effects but without serotonin/dopamine/endorphin improving properties due to a difference of just a few molecules in it's chemical formulation of N,N-dimethyl-2-[(2-methylphenyl)- phenyl-methoxy]-ethanamine.

On balance, the Procyclidine at 10mgs, or even at 5mgs was found to be the most effective at taking a suicidal person out of their depression, and into a contented mood, in just 20 minutes. From depressed state to happy mood - researched users found effect at just 5mgs in most cases. During research by others, unlike Cocaine, Procyclidine Hydrochloride was found to, at 15mgs, slightly lower the heart beat rate during tests into pre-pulse inhibitor response (relates to reaction time / eye blink rate), compared to those who were not on Procyclidine

Another one currently being researched (which I am pushing for more research in) is Pramipexole Hydrochloride - for those previously addicted to Crack / the Amphetamine Sulphites family / Crystal Meth or similar.





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Originally posted by Merriman Weir
Seriously, this whole theory is flawed beyond belief.

I have to disagree. The theory has a great deal of merit and should be taken seriously by anyone who lives over there.

Thank you MMPI2.

I'm now able to press on with releasing of documents from during the last 9 years, with the letter for the Right Honorable Ben Bradshaw MP, Secretary of State, Department of Culture Media and Sport, of 8th September 2009

Letter sent to:-

The Rt Hon Sir Alan Haselhurst MP,
House of Commons,
LONDON
SW1A OAA



Dear Alan,

Thank you for your letter of 20th June 2009 to Alan Johnson (the Home Secretary), enclosing correspondence from your constituent Mr. P Dew of [address], about press content. This letter was passed to this Department for response and I apologise for the delay this has caused to you receiving a response to your constituent's query.

In the UK, the press is not subject to state intervention and the Government believes that this is fundamental to our democracy. That is why the Government does not interfere in what a newspaper or magazine chooses to publish. However, it also understands that this freedom carries great responsibilities [WHICH THE DAILY MAIL & OTHER NEWSPAPERS HAVE CLEARLY BREACHED, BUT THIS MAN CANNOT SEE THAT!]

Newspapers must, of course, abide by the law but they also sign up to a Code of Practice, overseen by the independent Press Complaints Commision (PCC) [IT'S NOT INDEPENDENT AT ALL, THE CHAIRMAN IS DACRE - THE MAN I AM ACCUSING OF BEING RESPONSIBLE FORWELL OVER 1,000 MURDERS]. The Editor's Code of Practice sets a benchmark for the standards the press are expected to maintain.

If Mr. Dew would like any more information on the PCC and their Code of Practice or would like to bring his concerns to their attention, I suggest that he should look on their website www.pcc.org.uk or write to them. [NO THANKS, I WROTE TO THEM IN 2005, AND THEY REPLIED WITH A LETTER OF ILLEGAL OBFUSCATION. MAY I REMIND YOU, PAUL DACRE, IS THE CHAIRMAN!]

[NOT ONCE IN THIS LETTER, DOES THE SECRETARY OF STATE, BEN BRADSHAW, MAKE MENTION OF WHAT I AM COMPLAINING ABOUT - VIOLENT METAPHORS INSPIRING VIOLENT CRIME]

With best wishes,

[signed]

BEN BRADSHAW.

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Letter sent to:-

Mr. Martin Morgan, Chief Executive, DMGT plc, and Mr. Guy Zitter, MD, The Daily Mail


Mr. Martin Morgan,
Chief Executive,
DMGT plc,
2 Derry Street,
LONDON, SE16 7ND

Monday June 22nd 2009





Dear Mr. Morgan,



This letter is a request for Associated Newspapers Ltd. to:-

(a) totally cease and desist with immediate effect, from using "knife cacophemisms" such as or similar to "Knives are out" and "Knives come out for", in all of its publications.

(b) to make a substantial donation to anti-violence charities of not less than £200,000, within the next 30 days, in respect of the proven effect that the use of these cacophemisms have had in the increase of occurence of violent acts, during the analysis period, which was July 2001, to June 2009.

And, in addition, to make a payment to myself personally, within the next 30 days, of £50,000, in respect of considerable time and effort and expense put in by myself in investigating the cacophemism issue, estimated to be over 6 months of full-time work scattered over the analysis period. Lost revenue was much, much greater [estimated revenue cost to me, in excess of £1.5million (to my businesses) ] [When I sat down and really worked it out recently, I realised that it's actually been far greater than cumulatively 6 months of full time work, more like nearly 2 years worth of full time hours]

The settlements are requested due to the facts that I wrote to Mr. Paul Dacre, Chief Editor of the Daily Mail group, over 10 times since July 2001, often by Special Delivery post, to point out the issue with headlines such as "Knives come out........." -

(i) That any seriously mentally disturbed readers may take this as a catalytic trigger to commit knife crime; as a "call" to get knives out.

(ii) That many youngsters, of the age of around 16, would read these headlines and would be unaware that they were violent metaphors, and would have misinterpreted them literally as a "call" to get knives out. I have shown many young people a relevant headline - "After a week to forget, the knives are out" (published May 1st 2009) and every single youngster interviewed did not understand the headline, and were not aware that "knives are out" was not apparently meant literally.

Testimony was sent to Mr. Robin Esser, Executive Managing Editor for the Daily Mail, in June 2006, from an ex-knife criminal with previous mental health problems who felt that the cacophemism metaphors about knives may well have had the catalyst effect in the committing of her crime, due to the fact that she felt at the time that the headlines pertained to her and how she should behave and conduct herself. Robin replied with an acknowledgement that these kinds of headlines may lead to violence, and that he would send a memo to all relevant editorial staff to ask them not to use knife cacophemisms.

However, the use of knife cacophemisms in the Daily Mail and its group of newspapers continued.

Since my communications appeared to be being ignored, I therefore spent £1,850 of my own money placing an "Open Letter" (paid up space) in The Times, to Mr. Paul Dacre, again urging the newspaper group to stop using knife cacophemisms due to the risk on each and every that such a headline is used, that there might be / there has been resultant knife crime.

This letter (for the attention of the Chief Editor and Directors of Associated Newspapers Ltd.) was not published by the Times, but in the end was faxed to senior management executives at The Daily Mail group on Saturday 13th September 2006 by the Managing Editors at News International Ltd. - as has been confirmed to me on the phone by Mr. David Chappell, Managing Editor of the Times newspaper.

The letter explains that I had now interviewed a second individual who had been influenced to commit their particular knife crime after reading a headline in the Daily Mail. I urged Paul Dacre yet again not to use or allow knife cacophemisms to be used in any of his newspapers.

Mr. Charles Garside, Assistant Editor of the Daily Mail, phoned me a few days later, to try to defend the use of cacophemisms explaining that these were intended in an allegorical sense. I put it to Charles during the conversation that many youngsters do not know that "Knives are out" is allegorical. I then complained and spoke to Charles agian when I had seen that the cacophemism had been used on at least THREE occasions since the phone-call, thus it was apparent that the Chief Editor of the newspaper had not taken action to ensure that the offending phrases were not used, despite the fact that he was in receipt, and had been for some considerable time, of the knowledge that these kinds of headlines were causing violent crime.

I phoned the Daily Mail newsdesk to complain about another double page spread headline "Knives out.." (without "raising my voice") [an article about Gordon Ramsay] and the phone was slammed down on me. [The same afternoon, a group of children were stabbed to death at a children's party by a madman, and he had been triggered by this headline.]


....copy of letter continues in next post

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...letter to Martin Morgan, of June 22nd 2009, continuation




I have particular complaint, and find the matter to be particularly serious, in respect of the following headlines which were used by The Daily Mail:-


KNIVES ARE OUT FOR GORDON BROWN - FRONT PAGE HEADLINE on July 2nd 2001 (hence visible to all who entered newsagents, including youngsters who may or may not have had a good education in the use and meaning of the English language). This headline was published on the same day as that the softly softly approach to cannabis was officially introduced in North Lambeth, South London.

NOW THEY WILL STAB HIM IN THE FRONT - Page 3 of the Mail, January 8th 2006 (top of page headline).

AFTER A WEEK TO FORGET, THE KNIVES ARE OUT - Page 11 of the Daily Mail, May 1st 2009, (bottom of page headline), the article of which included the words verbatim "Knives are now out."

I also find the matter to be particularly serious, in respect of the following headline which was used by the London Evening Standard [now owned by the Lebedev Media Corp.]

KNIVES COME OUT FOR MICHAEL GRADE - Page 14, centre right column.

To give yet further re-iteration to what I said in my open letter which was in the end faxed to the Directors and Chief Editor of the Daily Mail on September 13th 2008:-

Since July 2001, when a front page headline of the Daily Mail was "KNIVES ARE OUT FOR GORDON BROWN", your group of newspapers have used knife cacophemisms in headlines regularly. I think the publication of headlines are ultimately the responsibility of the Editor, as well as being ultimately the responsibility of the entity that is DMGT plc. Your group encompassing papers such as Metro, Daily Mail, Mail on Sunday, London Evening Standard & conline content has published headlines - I quote verbatim - "...rushing to put the knife in...", "Knives come out..." (double page spread), "Knives come out again..." (double page spread), "Now they will stab him in the front", "Who will wield the knife?" (double page spread), "Knives are out", and many other similar headlines, on well over ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY OCCASIONS since July 2001.

I hope that you will agree to my request for compensation to the value of £250,000 in total - payment to anti-violence charities, and £50,000 compensation to myself personally, for the reasons given on page 1 of this letter.

If I have to take legal action over these matters, the amount I would seek in damages for charity will be in the realms of many, many millions of pounds.

If you agree at this stage now, to make the indicated compensatory remittances during the forthcoming period of 30 days from the receipt of this letter, then please let me know in writing, the offer which you would like to make to pay in total to anti-violence charities. The charities may be decided upon in consultation with me, and when remittances are made, they should be sent to me for forwarding. This is in addition to compensation to myself.

I wish to see knife crime eradicated. The youngsters do not even know that "knives are out" is a metpahor, and some of the mentally ill just see this as a literal message. This has been pointed out on over 12 occasions to staff of Daily Mail by official formal letter, in addition to numerous telephone calls [in excess of 150 telephone conversations], and many telephone calls to senior editorial executives of the Mail. Please do not overlook taking urgent action to cease and desist from printing knife cacophemisms in all of your newspapers.

I will be grateful if you make compensation as requested,

Yours sincerely,
PETER DEW.
for and on behalf of
Peter Dew Media Communications.





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Verbatim transcript of start of call with Mr. Robin Esser, in respect of London Evening Standard headline of "KNIVES COME OUT FOR MICHAEL GRADE"

Me:- "A man has been murdered in Hackney, London"
Robin:- "I know"
Me:- "That's subsequent to your newspaper printing Knives come out a few days before"
Robin:- "That's right."

I then paused, and continued the conversation, although I have no notes about the rest of the conversation.

Here follows a copy of my recent post to "I believe over 1,000 people were murdered due to the actions of a U.K. national newspaper", for those of you who may not have time to read that other thread, which is very long, with over 200 posts! Then, the DACREGATE thread will continue in it's own right


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Well the situation at this time, is that Associated Newspapers Ltd., could stay in business. It's up to the readers and the advertisers of course.

I've the great responsibility of sending their company an invoice on Monday, for £72.5 million, for the distribution to relatives, especially parents, of those murdered or very seriously let down etc. due to the historically printed words of this paper.

If they say they won't pay, I have to pay out nearly £3,000 to a solicitor, to prepare the certificate, or petition of bankruptcy. That's what happens if they do not respond in 14 days, the invoice terms.

They only have to give the agreement that they'll pay, and that may be in instalments, for example of £7.25 million per month, for payment into our solicitor's client account.

That way, they get to stay in business!

I am also sending my bill for £70,000 for my very considerable time during the last 9 years, in proving the connection between violent euphemisms ("dysphemisms or cacophemisms") and real life violent crime, including a considerable number of deaths. I'm really pissed off about the whole thing.

But we can move on, and I hope for no knife crime ever again. A World of No Violent Crime - We Give it to you Every Day, that would be a great banner for a newspaper to print every day of the week, under their newspaper title-mast.


[edit on 13-3-2010 by TheDailyPlanet]

Knife cacophemisms dispute with Daily Mail & group of newspapers - July 2001-June2009‏
From: Pete Dew (peterdew [at] hotmail.co.uk)
Sent: 22 July 2009 17:58:57
To: [email protected]; [email protected]

(Managing Editor and Executive Managing Editors of the Daily Mail newspaper respectively)



Dear Robin,

On 1st May 2009 the Daily Mail newspaper used the cacophemism headline "After a week to forget, the knives are out". I felt dutybound to again drop what I was doing, and take action again, this time of a more formal nature, wishing to close the long running affair which started on July 2nd 2001 - having heard that there was now a knife crime every 24 minutes.

I wrote to Martin Morgan and Guy Zitter on 22nd June, and Martin replied to let me know he had forwarded my letter to your office, so I understand you are in receipt of this. I formally requested an immediate stop to use of knife cacophemisms in your group of newspapers, and as far as I have been able to observe, I have been pleased that this formal request seems this time not to have been ignored.

I believe that it is easily deducible that the use of a headline like "Who will wield the knife?", "Knives come out for Michael Grade" or "After a week to forget, the knives are out" would lead to violence when printed and distributed to millions. All youngsters who I have ever consulted about the headlines do not at first understand these conjectured knives as not being real. People with mental health problems in interviews have cited Daily Mail headlines as catalysts for their commited knife crimes.

I should also let you know that I contacted Sir Alan Haselhurst last month, in his capacity as my local MP, with a complaint about the use of knife cacophemisms occasionally in various news media organisations, and frequent usage within the Daily Mail group. This complaint has been referred to the Department of Culture, Media and Sport.

I have a 500 word article being published in "Inside Time" newspaper in 2 weeks time - the newspaper which is distributed to prisonners, asking that anybody who was affected by knife cacophemisms as psychotic trigger to their crimes gets in touch. Currently I have testimony from 3 individuals who live in my c20,000 population town who cite Daily Mail headlines as psychotic catalysts to their crimes.

Again, I'm pleased the cacophemisms stopped, and I've seen a reduction in reported knife murders during the same period since I wrote to Martin Morgan, though no knife crime occurence whatsoever is aimed at. In view of this co-operation, and the fact that your office has only ever been civil in its dealings with me (inc Lucy McGirr), I would be prepared to consider an offer for free display advertising in September - October and a feature about me - which I would ensure to be as riveting as I can for your readers. My areas of business will be ink/toner cartridges, music, high quality website design/re-design, electronic cigarettes. I have some music at www.myspace.com/peterdew - I will be updating soon with new tracks which I am composing. I think this will be preferable to Associated Newspapers Ltd. than a payment of £50,000 to me as requested in my letter of 22nd June. Subsequent to October, you would have a new paying display advertising customer, and hopefully over years to come, a big spender with your newspaper group.

I know these are challenging times for newspapers, however provided that there is no more usage of these violent metaphors, the paper should still have a very good future.

I have spoken to solicitors about a possible legal action against the Daily Mail group (corporate incitement to murder), and I have had a beer with one of the presenters of a national TV news programme, with a view to possibly appearing on television news to discuss the matter. I would prefer not to take this action, I think it would be very stressful and expensive for both me and DMGT.


I wish you all well, and look forward to hearing from you,



Yours sincerely,





PETER DEW.

[edit on 13-3-2010 by TheDailyPlanet]

The newspaper resumed using knife metaphor idioms.

There had been a period of 2.5 months where there had been a total of 2 murders by knife in the UK in this entire period. This information is absolutely 100% true. (But we must have no knife crime, ever)

Then, I was devasated to see that the Daily Mail printed the double-page spread as follows:-

KNIVES ARE OUT FOR ALESHA

(the words "KNIVES ARE" covered the entirety of the left hand page top)

That weekend, after 2 and a half months with total 2 murders by knife,

FOUR PEOPLE WERE MURDERED WITH KNIVES IN THE SINGLE WEEKEND. AND NOT A SINGLE ONE OF THESE MURDERS WAS REPORTED TO DAILY MAIL READERS.






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Originally posted by MMPI2

Originally posted by Merriman Weir
Seriously, this whole theory is flawed beyond belief.

I have to disagree. The theory has a great deal of merit and should be taken seriously by anyone who lives over there.

"Over there"? But not anyone who lives anywhere else? Does the American media never use metaphor? Does knife crime (or gun crime or violent crime generally) never happen in America? If the theory has a great deal of merit as you say, why is it not similarly applicable to America? Or is there also an extra fabricated element going to have to come into play to demonstrate it only happens in the UK? Sounds like the conspiracy inflation model to me.

Also, if the theory has as much merit as you and Daily Planet believe, why not address some of the other points?

Why such a selective understanding of Angular Gyrus Syndrome? Where are all the other symptoms associated with this kind of condition besides 'literalism'.

Why only the 'literalism' and why only literalism relating to knife crime. I've already shown an earlier point on this to be a nonsense. Daily Planet believes that 'over the moon' would be an OK metaphor (an example I used earlier), when it wouldn't: the problem with this syndrome is that metaphors generally aren't seen for what they are and are interpreted literally. It's not specific to knife-relate metaphors as he's claiming.

How about addressing the fact the demographics of people committing knife crime aren't those exposed to print media, particularly the Daily Mail as well as the fact that this seems to have peaked at a time when the power of the print media is actually in decline and circulation figures are struggling? I've gone into more detail about this earlier on in the thread.

[edit on 13-3-2010 by Merriman Weir]

Aside from Angular Gyrus Syndrome, and Asperger's Syndrome, which I will delve into more for you Merriman if I can find the time, later, the fact of the matter is the research carried out on the internet years and years ago, which points out the blatantly obvious (including research on the Angular Gyrus, without someone necessarily having to suffer from A.G.S.):-


If a metaphor is not understood figuratively, it can be taken literally.

[edit on 13-3-2010 by TheDailyPlanet]