Germany introduces new biometric ID card

www.cebit.de...



its happening all over the world...at the moment its not compulsory to include finger prints..but everything else is on there...radio transmitters etc...

this part is the most disturbing:

Access to the identifying data on one of the new ID cards will only be entrusted to serious, reliable businesses. Schaar regrets: "I have worked towards making sure that participating businesses will only obtain the relevant certificate upon the successful completion of an independent review. Unfortunately, I wasn't able to push that through."

Man, wouldnt it be easier just to go one step further and I dunno, put it in your hand or forehead?

My credit card has a chip, my student ID has a chip, theyre slowly making it ridiculously inconvenient to use debit cards, people dont accept certain bills of cash anymore...

Is this new ID card only for German citizens or for everyone? With the current system, only citizens get ID cards. If it's the same with this new one, I'm going to have to count myself as lucky; I'll miss the similar thing in America, and I won't be able to partake in it here in Germany!

Originally posted by octotom
Is this new ID card only for German citizens or for everyone? With the current system, only citizens get ID cards. If it's the same with this new one, I'm going to have to count myself as lucky; I'll miss the similar thing in America, and I won't be able to partake in it here in Germany!

are you a non german in germany?

i am and was thinking the same..i hope i dont need one..

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Yup. I'm an American living in Germany. My wife is German though so I guess, in the end I can only half celebrate about this.

What is your reason for being in Germany? I just thought that, if you're military, you'd probably be exempt from this new system. I'm not military though, so if non-citizens had to get this card, I'd have to get it.

Originally posted by octotom
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Yup. I'm an American living in Germany. My wife is German though so I guess, in the end I can only half celebrate about this.

What is your reason for being in Germany? I just thought that, if you're military, you'd probably be exempt from this new system. I'm not military though, so if non-citizens had to get this card, I'd have to get it.

im not military...and my wife is also german..

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So, after just reading about this for a little bit, these New ID cards are going to totally replace the Personalausweis. That would mean, unless the law changes, only citizens would have to get this new ID card. That said, I read that some businesses, like Amazon and eBay are going to take advantage of the RF capabilities and depending how that's implemented, it could pose a problem for those without the new ID (or a relationship with someone that does).

So I guess that's good for you and me!

I do not think that you will be required to have the German ID card. I am non military working in Germany. I am an expat Brit with French residency, so I have a French ID amd UK Passport. As such, I do not think that they can force you to have one. I am pretty sure that will apply to our American cousins too.

im still pissed the rest of my family will need one...

In addition to the usual passport data like a picture, name and address, which collectively form the E-pass functionality of the card, the new ID card also contains an online authentication function. I'm guessing the online authentication function is for internet 2 after they ban the public internet and switch to total government controlled internet.
Instead of insecure, error-prone magnetic strips. Are those strips very error prone? I would think digital is more insecure these days. How many people's identities get stolen every second from their own computer?
takes the form of a radio transmitter, which transmits encrypted signals. Too Who or what would it transmit signals to? Can't people capture signals right out of the air digital or not? How about a GPS in your I.D. so if you get lost you can just touch your license and call OnStar and they can either direct you or shut you down mentally.
I'm sure well see this in the US sooner rather than later.

Originally posted by ImasbrokeasAmerica
In addition to the usual passport data like a picture, name and address, which collectively form the E-pass functionality of the card, the new ID card also contains an online authentication function. I'm guessing the online authentication function is for internet 2 after they ban the public internet and switch to total government controlled internet.
Instead of insecure, error-prone magnetic strips. Are those strips very error prone? I would think digital is more insecure these days. How many people's identities get stolen every second from their own computer?
takes the form of a radio transmitter, which transmits encrypted signals. Too Who or what would it transmit signals to? Can't people capture signals right out of the air digital or not? How about a GPS in your I.D. so if you get lost you can just touch your license and call OnStar and they can either direct you or shut you down mentally.
I'm sure well see this in the US sooner rather than later.

they admit that companies will have access to information on these cards....maybe they can use the radio transmitters for that purpose...set up scanners on train stations or airports...side of motorways etc?...its an absolute disgrace..

[edit on 3-3-2010 by alienesque]

I just heard in the Canadian Throne Speech that they are going to introduce BioMetric Passports!! This makes me sick. Getting very tired of all this control.

Originally posted by (C2C)
I just heard in the Canadian Throne Speech that they are going to introduce BioMetric Passports!! This makes me sick. Getting very tired of all this control.

what a coincidence..

i honestly think this is the NWOs main weapon...most people think these things are only happening to them..if they could see its happening all over they may start to get a bit suspicious..

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Getting sick of it already? But this is only the start

The days of anonymity in the real or cyber world are numbered, but thankfully its for our own 'Protection' lol.

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Everybody that has a photo I.D. in a developed nation has an I.D. with biometric data. Your face and such are used as biometric data which a computer can attach to a file containing all of your other data. No need to wonder why all of the cameras in London are going digital. So next time you see a security camera, smile... you've just made an addition to your personal file.

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Everybody that has a photo I.D. in a developed nation has an I.D. with biometric data. Your face and such are used as biometric data which a computer can attach to a file containing all of your other data. No need to wonder why all of the cameras in London are going digital. So next time you see a security camera, smile... you've just made an addition to your personal file.

Thanks for the warning, I never realized it was that bad already. I'm not giving them anymore info then they already got, they want more they can keep my ID from now on.

[edit on 4-3-2010 by (C2C)]