A Strange Feeling as of Late...

reply to post by Tragic


Yeah I feel a little silly for posting it but I figure at worst I'll feel mild embarassment and if it helps someone then fantastic

- Phoenix

reply to post by truthseeker1984


i feel it is rather difficult to do it "intentionally," because it is a result of an action, but the action itself has to be found. i kind of described the concept a couple of posts ago, but i feel there are exercises too, as all things "here" are a process. I think the core issue with learning this is actually the lesson of "learning how to learn," as it is simply something you will not be able to do with ones "current" perspective. We are shown how to incorporate new intricacies simultaneously with the ones we are already familiar with.

I think the first important step is to realize that "you" are already "seeing" things both ways. The only thing to do is to bring it into the perspective, which is usually strongly founded on the mental thoughts themselves. The more we step out of how we have currently defined the world, the more we can grow in the directions of our focus. The issue is that the mental thoughts do not know how to translate the communication, because it isnt necessarily communicated through the same channels as typical eyesight. So frequently, when trying to "see" with the third eye, we are really just trying harder to see with the sight we are used to, but it takes a different kind of "being" to be able to do it. I used to look in the mirror and say "your current perspective isnt capable of integrating these things, major changes have to be made." I made myself aware that what i was looking to do was simply not contained within my current perspective, i would need to learn how to move in a different direction. The biggest distinction is that these things tend to be experiential concepts, as opposed to mental concepts.

I also have to note that over arcing themes have been quite the norm recently, thats fun

Either way, i illustrate this using ones own arm. which i have retold a couple times at this point One can think about their arm moving, but the arm itself does not move at all. We have to actually move our arm, but it still uses the brain either way. This idea is supposed to illustrate the two ways to approach things, the observer and the action. It must be noted the differentiation between the two is less like two separate "things," and more like our heart and lungs working together to keep forward momentum. They are to be experienced simultaneously, but for most of us, we mostly reside in the observer without fully "comprehending" the simultaneous action, or we reside in the action without fully "comprehending" the observer (as in when one acts before they think). I see these as two balanced sides to our perspective itself, akin to "incoming" and "outgoing," or based in the same balanced orbital duality as everything else in this material universe. The combined balanced simultaneous system is how i feel we interact with this world, but we tend to only approach it with one or the other, due to our dualistic based perspective of either/or. It seems when we are not balanced between these things, "life" and general "experiences" can tend to feel unreal as well as lending itself well to apathy and things like that. I feel this is caused, essentially, by only perceiving 50% of our core "being" (simultaneous observer/action) at any one time.

Why is any of this relevant? because to perceive the observer and action simultaneously, one must make a similar experiential effort to incorporate a "new" piece of the puzzle, just like learning how to "see" differently, equally, continuously, and simultaneously. There are as many exercises to facilitate this as one can think of! This same experiential movement is also detailed in some religions focus on the controlling of breath, as many of the population are not aware of these processes that occur in our body continuously and simultaneously with our "thoughts." I feel this specific learning and growing process is the basis for being able to get beyond one residing completely in our thoughts and feelings as the totality of our "body." So, if one can learn this process, then very few things (if any) are "out of our reach," unless we put them there ourselves.

One practice is to become aware of obviously cyclical systems on our own body. i think "within" is always the best place to start The idea is to take two systems (one usually being our mind/thoughts/observer) and experience them simultaneously and equally. So, we are not cycling our consciousness back and forth between the two, but we are recognizing both movements at the same time. This can be done between the mind/thoughts and ones lungs (most common), or ones heart, or the very blood pumping through our veins. Experientially, this feels like literally "doubling" ones perspective.

A few more similar practices all use ones field of vision and their eyes, but that can be done in steps as a process. The first exercise is being able to move the observer around the action. this can be done by looking straight forward and keeping ones eyes still. then, we can use our mind to move around the field of vision itself. Kind of like moving a mouse pointer (area of mental focus) around a computer screen (field of view itself). This type of thing is actually taught in some motorcycle classes, i believe! The reason is that to look at something that is already within our field of vision, it is generally "quicker" to move ones mind to what they want to look at than to move ones physical eyes. The second exercise is to "look," with our mind as illustrated in the first exercise, at two "separate" objects contained within ones field of vision. The idea is to "look" at them simultaneously. (When doing this, the experiential concept is easier if one "lets" the items be and merely observes them, instead of "looking" directly at two objects. It is hard to describe such things, obviously, but experiment around, and make note of your personal process!) The next step in this exercise is to slowly incorporate more and more items into the practice and eventually leads to the shift described in the third exercise! In the third, one is attempting to take note of their entire field of vision as a single object itself. In this, the same as the others, the eyes themselves should not move. the only movement should be "mentally." I am trying to be clear on something that is hard to make clear with words here... so try to come at this from a conceptual level of your own unless what i am saying makes perfect sense. Do not so much take notice of what is contained within the field of view, for this exercise, but take notice of the field of vision itself. Do note that this exercise can have some interesting "shifts" take place. So, mentally take note of the edges of ones field of vision and view the field of vision itself as a single object. Much like a.. .. window or a television. during this exercise there is usually a relatively obvious "flip," where the observer and the field of vision start to define themselves a little bit more clearly. Sometimes, it takes doing some things just right to get growth in a certain direction. Mess around with it, do "trial and error," and most of all, have fun with it. So, in all these exercises, we have to actually move our "perspective," as opposed to just thinking about it.

I truly hope this helps, and let me know if you have any questions. I am, quite literally, "here to help." learning how to "bridge worlds" in this way is a learning process though, so if something isnt clear, or doesnt make sense, i would appreciate being made aware of such things. As we can only tell of our personal experiences, which seem so obvious in the implications to us, it is easy to miss what may be important parts of the story to others. and everyone has the "amazing story of their life." I stopped apologizing for my posts length though, so youll just have to deal with that or strengthen that scroll finger

Anyone else been on edge lately? I can't shake this feeling of "be prepared"
But for what? I've been doing fairly well as of late. Other than the anxiety meditation episodes.
But tonight, it hit me like a ton of bricks, blindsided and all I can do is remember to breath through it.
It's almost 3am here on the East coast of the US, I should be sleeping. Lord knows I'm tired and weary.
I feel crazy and as though there is much to go into deep thought about. I can't pinpoint it.

I tried meditation again tonight and it happened again. I attempted 4 times, though honestly the 4th time I didn't put a whole lot of effort into it. I suppose I was more fearful of the anxiety than anything else by that point. So here I am with my bowl of ice cream and cherries just trying to move past it.

Meditation was my relase, it keeps me grounded and real. I don't know what to do. I can't stand the thought of being consumed with fear from meditation ... Ug

Ok, I am off to bed.
Smile everyone, you are loved

reply to post by Tragic


Well Tragic, you had reason to be on edge.

A magnitude 8.9 earthquake hit japan and a tsunami warning has been put into effect for many places...

I guarantee you were picking up on this... That is very in tune of you.

Hey guys.....wowee.... can't sleep!!

Sol, as of this post tsunami waves are supposed to be hitting Hawaii in fifteen minutes. I hope you are not online and are taking precautions. Please let us know you are ok when you can.

On topic, Tragic, it seems you were feeling this tragedy about to happen. I am thinking of all who have been and are going to be affected by this. The Philippines was just hit as I was typing this. Please be careful all.

I don't even know what to say. My heart breaks for all of these souls.
I woke up this morning and watched the news in horror.
Thank goodness That area in Japan had been evacuated from what I understand.

Sol please be careful and Bv as well. I just saw a report saying there was an 8 ft wave that hit
Santa Cruz harbor. Took out some boats, don't know about anything else. I just saw that you're in
CA.

Phoenix, perhaps this is what you were seeing in your dream?

Love you all - Be safe

hi people
I have the same feeling of "be aware" right now. this morning i was barely able to open my eyes and turn on the tv, just to discover the quake at Japan. Sad thing is... we're on the ring of fire too and here's a tsunami alert placed in all the coastline of Chile (we have a pretty large one, i can't remember how many kilometers it is... ) All the coastal cities are being evacuated... and the tsunami was going to hit Easter Island by 7 pm and it hasn'tyet. I'm pretty nervous, I just want it to come and strike for once =/....
the climate here is weird as ever, cold wind and clear skyes... nothing like this happens by this time of year

reply to post by Caggy


Hiya Cags,
It's nice to hear from you. Seems like it's been a lifetime and a half since we've gotten to speak. In other words, I've missed you! hehe
I'm sorry you feel on edge, it's no fun. But I'm glad that you're hanging in there.
There's not a whole lot you can do about that other than the normal techniques I would assume. But please try to stay safe, especially with those tsunami warnings. Have they lifted them for your area yet? I just can't bring myself to look at the news anymore. It just makes me so sad and while I know turning it off doesn't make it go away, sometimes everyone needs to take a break from the destruction.

Anyway, how has your journey been going lately?

Stay safe love

Love you to pieces

Ok, so I only fully read the first 10 pages of this thread, and it looks as though it has moved on to being more about theories and what has happened in Japan. However I figured I would go ahead and post this.
I have always been sensitive to others feelings and have had several precognitive dreams in the past. I think I may be an empath, but who knows, maybe I'm just weird. Of course it is something that runs in the family on my mom's side...only with the females though. Anywho...
Around May or June of last year I began feeling really really "off". I do not know really how to explain it. I have had increasingly odd and painful migraines, the random shocks, my sleeping schedule is just absolutely not normal at all, and even when I do manage to get some sleep I never feel like I actually did. I will feel tired and exhausted all day long until around 2-3 am. At this point I feel wide awake and this weird frequency-ish/white noise-ish sound that I have been hearing for years now increases greatly. During last August I began seeing shadowy things frequently. Around this time I began looking for explanations and actually found someone who described experiencing the same things. What kinda freaked me out about this though was that we were apparently having very similar dreams as well...just from different points of view. We both stopped seeing the shadowy things around January-ish, and since then we have been unable to talk much. Anyways, things that have been added to the migraines and sleeping issues since last year include and increasing inability to fully concentrate on anything, feeling extra spacey (only way I know to explain it, kinda feels like a floating sensation combined with a bit of confusion), and my impending sense of doom had grown much worse.

reply to post by Tragic


hopefully i live between the andes and la costa mountains. Santiago haves no coast, so i'm safe. right now, the sea is entering cities all around the country, and i'm listening to the radio because tv ended to broadcast... hopefully too, the goverment evacuated all the flood zones and there wouldn't be casualties even if the sea enters too high. Our coast is very weird and coast lines are small (because there's coast, La Costa, inner valleys and the andes) so keeping people at safe isn't that hard...
My journey has been from weird to weirdest, but i have choose to not share everything here because there's too much trolls around and some of my statements are completely like trolling material... i have been a lot into magic and trying to approach life in other ways to not pay attention to my problems (i mean, i pay attention to them but not as serious i used to do). I just started college again with my new approach of life and everything is going great. The only deal i have is feeling like a ghost on my house (because my uncle and my cousins don't pay any attention to me, neither they leave me food and i'm spending more money than the little i have because i need to buy anything to cook by myself or eat outside), nothing else. Oh and the serious lack of money i am into.

How have you been? yeah, it looks like a lifetime since I haven't talked to you, i miss you too!

reply to post by Tragic


I hadn't thought of that. The close proximity between it and the quake is definitely interesting, the lava in my dream was a similar speed to the tsunami I saw that engulfed the farm on the News but then it's not unusual for lava to move fairly fast. If I'm honest and go by gut feeling I don't think the dream is related to the quake, at least not directly anyway.

- Phoenix

reply to post by pino13


Welcome to the thread Pino. I think stopping at ten pages and not going deeper into the thread may be a mistake. I understand how daunting it is, but there is valuable info to be found by perusing it. We didn't change direction to wind up where we are on this last page, we rather have evolved to be where we are. We are all now sort of waiting. Waiting to see what is going to happen next, waiting to see what new "symptoms" appear, etc. Please, feel free to join us and let us know what's up with you, like we do with each other.

I'm glad I found this thread !
It was only a few weeks ago I was thinking is this just me that feels weird ?

Since before Christmas I have been feeling really out of sorts all, like I'm waiting for something to happen but I'm not sure what it is.

I wake up several times a night, have great difficulty getting back to sleep and am constantly feeling drained
Sometimes before going to sleep I feel like I'm over energised or anxious almost vibrating..it's something I can't explain or put into words.

My dreams are very odd and recently I'm seeing lots of geometrical stuff. A few nights ago the Eye of Horus was in my dream glowing, morphing into words and other symbols, of what they mean I have no idea, but I wake feeling it was important and I have learn't something that I can't remember.

I have also had the headache, it started about 4 weeks ago first in the right temple, but in the last 2 or 3 days it moved to the left, it's so hard to concentrate and I'm struggling with many day to day aspects of my life.

This morning my whole head was heavy and thumping....

So OP...yep I feel strange also, and it seems so do many others, its nice to know I'm not alone and either are you !

reply to post by truthseeker1984
Hello everyone. I am a newbie at ATS although I have been reading through threads for several weeks now. I've been fascinated by the similar perspectives or experiences I've had common to other members within a variety of topics, but as you can tell from my username, I'm not one to jump into a discussion quickly. With that said, by the time I read through the first four pages of this thread, I couldn't ignore the need to stop being so passive and decided to fight my reluctance to share something for which I might be scorned (as has been my fear in the past). There has been a large amount of data and experiences to digest from many of you over the pages of this thread and I apologize if I touch on things already discussed or if my post is too lengthy. Please understand that this is the first time I've EVER done anything like this and I don't know how much detail is too much or too little - I want to ensure you're understanding of my situation, so please bare with me.

My life has felt like it's been a whirlwind of confusion since the beginning of September and many of the experiences some of you have described are mutually shared. Firstly, there has been a lot of discussion about energy and many references to energy workers. I confess that I don't know how an energy worker comes to recognize and hone his/her ability and I'm reticent to put myself in any similar category; however, for as long as I could remember, I have been able to intuitively feel and sometimes physically see a change in the energy of the person with whom I'm interacting (or in their mood if they can be described as the same) and intensify my own energy to improve theirs, if that makes sense. I've always thought of it as an intuitive sensitivity and it scared me to death when I was a young child because it appeared that other people could unconsciously recognize this in me and I was frightened by their reactions (adults always wanted to engage with me whereas most of my contemporaries were intimidated and treated me as an outcast). Needless to say, my childhood was not easy. My parents were not religious and I never had a sense of faith to rely on; all I knew was that I always felt out of place and time. I had to adjust and toughen up in order to survive in the adult world and I developed coping mechanisms for what I considered my "challenges". It wasn't until I entered the business world that I recognized this attraction as a positive trait and was able to teach myself to use it to help others. There's no method to it - I merely consciously adjust my own positive energy field so the person in need can absorb some of it. I've never thought of it as anything other than a typical human interaction and it really wasn't until I started reading some of the threads here on ATS that I realized that perhaps it's not an intrinsic part of everyone. Not being instilled with a sense of faith, I've always been an analytical person looking for logical explanations to everything (there have been other unusual experiences in my life to be shared at another time) but I'm going to be perfectly honest. I've never admitted this to anyone, - and this falls under the category of my letting go for fear of being scorned - but I can swear that I sometimes thought I could see this exchange of energy as it was happening (like strings becoming attached to me and the person). Once I had enough positive experiences with "it", it became less scary and though I've had one or two instances where the person I was trying to help either became too greedy or intentionally tried to drain as much of my energy as possible, I've learned to recognize this different type of drain and have become much more guarded about it. Anyway, largely because of this ability, I was fairly successful in business because people where drawn to and trusted me. I have two great kids and had developed into a somewhat well-adjusted, happy adult with a successful career, a family and a positive attitude.

Six months ago, my entire outlook on life changed and it was not gradual and it was not gentle. I thought I was having a mental breakdown. I woke up one morning, after having only gotten an hour's sleep, with a blinding headache (being hit by a train as many have described) and feeling as if the air around me was thick and dangerous. I continued to drag myself through each day hoping that the feeling would pass but not only has it remained, it's evolved and invoked many of the "symptoms" described by others. My sleep cycle is totally off (I barely sleep at night and am constantly looking out my window at the night sky). The dark movements some of you have described as spiders are in my peripheral vision multiple times a day although I can't say that they have any particular shape. I have become anxious and started having panic attacks for the first time in my life. I've missed so much work that I was fired from my job but I couldn't even muster the energy to care about it and I honestly thought I was losing my mind. I went to see a neurologist and a psychiatrist, both of whom said I'm neither physically nor mentally ill. It feels like the "sparkle" I used to feel around me for life is gone and there's something that's disappeared that I can't quite grasp. When I'm outdoors, the things I used to love and which brought me a feeling of peace and connection (i.e. the grass and trees and the smell of the air) seems dull and sad (for lack of a better word) and again, perhaps an unusual observation, but the squirrels I used to notice EVERYWHERE are now nowhere to be found. I'm a Scorpio and by nature, I’ve always loved being around water - I live right beside a river and now find it scary and ominous in some unconscious way. I find that I'm always thirsty and constantly hungry but when I go to eat something, queasiness comes over me and I can't really eat more than a bite or two. I thought this must surely be depression, so back to the doctor I went with the same result - no findings of anything physiological or psychological. I feel discombobulated quite often (like my radar is messed up). The very few dreams I have had I really can't remember except for two of them and it's not so much the theme or what happened in the dream but the fact that I remember a distinct glowing purple object in each. I feel like that means something I can't grasp. I feel like I've lost my purpose in life and wanted to share some of these similarities with all of you who have been kind enough to do the same through this thread. Whatever is going on, it's definitely being collectively felt and I'm hoping to at least find some comfort and sense of sanity in sharing these occurrences with everyone. Thanks for reading my post and I promise my future replies will be much shorter!!

reply to post by Ceriddwen


No worries, I do intend on reading every post in this thread. I just wanted to go ahead and post what I was feeling before I had to log off.

reply to post by timidgal


Welcome to our newest members.

Timid - I think we were all timid to begin with. Heck, there are plenty of times still that I'm hesitant to post my findings, feelings, dreams or questions. It does all seem a bit crazy at times. But there comes a point where you can't forget nor ignore what's happening all around us. So, I want to thank you for being brave enough to push the doubt and fear aside to share with us. I can't imagine any single one of us "scorning" you for trusting us. That just isn't how things work around here. This is a safe place with people of all different walks of life just trying to understand and learn.

Please don't shorten your posts. If you think about it, the longer the post then generally there should be more information and more to delve into. And even if there isn't, we all need a release, right?

I'm going to cut this short here as I'm typing on my ipod and the battery is about to die. But know that you aren't alone, not even close. I hope we can learn a lot from each other and if you ever need someone to vent to or just a shoulder to lean on, feel free to U2U me. The same goes for everyone else as you should all know by now.

Until next time, smile you have discovered something amazing in the souls here. We're here for you.

Sending lots of love!
~Tragic~

To our newest posters, thank you for sharing with all of us. The mere act of voicing your feelings and intuition on the matters at hand only help all of us develop and grow as people, as members of society, and as luminous beings. I know the last statement is very weird to think about, but trust me when I say that I am one of the most grounded, analytical people that you will ever meet.

Over the past year, we have been sharing little blurbs of feelings, posting theories, and just generally being there for each other throughout our individual journeys. Both of you have everything in common with the rest of us. Things are not right in the world, and more and more people are waking up to this fact. There isn't a day that goes by where people stop me to ask the question: "what is going on in the world?" While none of us have concrete answers (I believe that is up to us to find our own answers), we all have each other to rely on and to bounce ideas off of. We each have our own individualized thoughts and questions on the matters at hand, but what brings us together is this feeling of "what."

What is making us suddenly feel these things? What is causing these things to happen in the first place?

We have come together to try and answer these questions.


Pino- Your story sounds so much like mine, and like those of the "regulars" to this thread. How is your overall health? I know that all of us have been screened at one time or another for health problems just so we can rule out something going on with our bodies. I want to make sure that your body is okay before we start working on your mind and spirit. I really think you should check out what you can in this thread...I know, it's a huge read, but it's well worth it for all the gems contained throughout. Thank you so much for sharing, and I hope you will come back to share more with us.

Metropolis- I will pose the same question to you: how is your physical health? I just want to make sure that everything is okay with your body before we being exploring the other options. It's interesting that you mention the Eye of Horus. One of us had similar dreams multiple pages ago (I don't remember who), but how very interesting! Thank you so much for sharing your story with us. As I said to Pino, I hope you will come back and share more with all of us.

Timid- You are so very welcome in this thread. I know how hard it is to "spill your guts" as it were, and share very personal occurrences with people you don't even know. As you can read, you are definitely not alone in your concerns and feelings.

I have been able to intuitively feel and sometimes physically see a change in the energy of the person with whom I'm interacting (or in their mood if they can be described as the same) and intensify my own energy to improve theirs, if that makes sense.

Most of us have felt this amazing ability at one time or another. At first glance, I would classify you as an Empath: one who can feel the emotions of another and use one's own energy to improve someone else's. I really wish I had more time to address all of the points in your post, but I have to end this post short. If I have more time later in the evening, I'll take the time to address your post personally, because I think I can give you some helpful thoughts to ponder. Never be afraid to express what is inside. We are all friends here, even if thousands of miles separate us.

As Tragic said, if any of you need to talk in private about something, don't hesitate to U2U any of us "regulars." We each have our own points of view, but as a collective whole, these views are so very valid. We are all very approachable, down-to-earth people. We don't bite.

Thank you all again for contributing, and keep posting if you feel the need to!




Peace be with you.

-truthseeker

reply to post by truthseeker1984
Thank you all so much for your kind and welcoming words.

Tragic – thanks for alleviating my concerns about the length of my post and please know that my hesitancy to share for fear of being scorned was never incited by anyone at this site. Quite the contrary, it was all of you and the respect that is so clearly articulated here that prompted me to take the plunge in the first place. Your acceptance and compassion shines through in all of your words and yes, I have walked around smiling today!

Truthseeker – your insightful comments are well noted and there have been a few times in the past when people with highly developed senses have voiced their suspicions that I might be an empath, but it’s been an area I’ve been reluctant to explore due to concerns made by a well meaning mentor about ten years ago. Also, under the heading of serendipity, your comment also coincides with a conversation I had with my sister about two weeks ago. She was telling me, for the umpteenth time, about how concerned everyone is due to the changes that have come over me these last few months and when I responded by saying that I felt so weighed down by something I couldn’t understand or explain, she shared with me a story from our youth. She thinks that I was no more than four or five years old when my father sat her and my brother down and warned them about trying to keep their emotions in check around me. He told them that I was what he referred to as “an ultra-sensitive” and he was fearful that the type of strong emotions sometimes evoked by their sibling rivalry (they are eight and six years older than me respectively) could be damaging to me at such a young age. It shocked me that my father had known this and had verbalized it to them since, as I said in my original post, he was not a religious or spiritual man in any traditional sense of the words and I obviously mistook his outward lack of interest in those areas for a lack of his own ability to read people “between the lines”. In any event, back to the mentor, she felt it was in my best interest to scare me off from the path of investigating and developing my empathetic abilities as she didn't feel I would be able to handle it and that it would, ultimately, lead to my unraveling. Perhaps that is what’s happening now - or perhaps what it happening now might have been much easier had I not heeded her advice. Who knows...

In any event, I suppose that we are all in a “wait and see” pattern and that the reality of what we are experiencing will show itself eventually. In the meantime, it is a huge relief to have found all of you to share these thoughts and experiences with and I already feel so much less alone. After I wrote that tome baring my soul to you last night (or early this morning, I should say), I dozed off and got the first five hour solid block of sleep I’ve had since this whole transition began in September. I thank all of you, my new friends, for this great gift of relief and wholeheartedly return all of your kind sentiments and wishes of peace!

reply to post by timidgal


I graciously welcome you to the thread.

Having people like you joining us here in the thread helps to reinforce many things for the posters that have been here since the beginning of the thread, me being one of them.

At this moment in time, I feel so good. I know there is death and destruction all over the world, but last night I realized something. If there is all this negativity in the world, then that is all the more reason to enjoy your life humbly and gratefully and be thankful for the time we are given.

Hope everyone can enjoy some positive vibes in these troubling times.