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PROOF that Building 7 was demolished with explosives!!!

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posted on Mar, 9 2010 @ 08:06 PM
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reply to post by THE AQUARIAN 1
 


I have explained why his conclusions are faulty. He ran the DSC in air so he cannot separate a thermitic reaction from combustion. The DSC comparison traces are not remotely alike in onset, duration, and shape. The paint has an organic binder; the nanothermite sols do not. The total energy of two of the chips is greater than any thermite and any combination of thermite and any "energetic binder" composed of his high explosive examples. There must be combustion occurring, so thermite is unproved.



posted on Mar, 9 2010 @ 08:07 PM
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Originally posted by pteridine

Originally posted by K J Gunderson

How could any evidence of explosives be found if none was looked for?




You ask a rhetorical question while avoiding the facts.


It was not the least bit rhetorical. It was an actual question. I guess you needed me to ask you 6 times? Not going to happen. Not found does indeed mean not found. It does not mean not present. Get that?



posted on Mar, 9 2010 @ 08:09 PM
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Do you get "No evidence of CD was found." That is what I said. You inferred what you wanted.



posted on Mar, 9 2010 @ 08:12 PM
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Originally posted by pteridine
reply to post by K J Gunderson
 


Do you get "No evidence of CD was found." That is what I said. You inferred what you wanted.


So you are going to claim that you never once said that there was no evidence of explosives? -Pay close attention to the lack of the word "found."



posted on Mar, 9 2010 @ 08:12 PM
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Paint doesn't combust at 2800 degrees F.

What else you got?



posted on Mar, 9 2010 @ 08:17 PM
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Nothing in the DSC reached 2800 degrees. Jonesy can't conclude thermite running the DSC in air.
What else you got?



posted on Mar, 9 2010 @ 08:47 PM
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Originally posted by pteridine
reply to post by THE AQUARIAN 1
 


Nothing in the DSC reached 2800 degrees. Jonesy can't conclude thermite running the DSC in air.
What else you got?


So...skipping my last question altogether I see. I guess it is tough to stand by what you say when you know you have already contradicted yourself, eh? Well I hope it was fun for you while it lasted anyway.



posted on Mar, 9 2010 @ 09:49 PM
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Originally posted by SPreston
Obviously only demolition explosives could remove the 8 floors, and if NIST is correct, then somebody rigged each of those 8 floors for demolition, shearing each of the 81 columns on each of the 8 floors. That equals 648 charges of whatever type rigged for demolition, and ensuring 2.25 seconds of freefall.


Finally. EUREKA!! We have a number. 648 Charges of whatever type!!
So, SPreston...Could I assume that we should be able to hear 648 explosions of whatever type going off just before collapse??
You do know there are videos with sound in them of these moments don´t you??
However, they DON´T HAVE the sound of those 648 charges going BOOM.
I wonder...

Whatever type of charges is "super secret hush hush charges" right??
Did I nail it??




[edit on 9-3-2010 by rush969]



posted on Mar, 9 2010 @ 10:06 PM
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OH, dear.....I'm going to be accused of 'tag teaming' because I just read your post, and thought it was worth commenting on!!!

Funny, that.

I actually READ, earlier that same post, about the 648 charges, and "D'Oh"!!! What you said did NOT occur to me!!

How brilliant of you, thanks for thinking of it!


Still, not fair, unless we allow time for the person who wrote the original to respond, lest we be accused (again) of some nefarious plot)...I jest, I jest!~!!

See? This is me, grinning!

All seriousness aside...or, is it other way 'round? Yes, that's it...all seriousness present! Up, front and center!


(logic hat being placed firmly on noggin...)

Charitably, 500+ "simultaneously" designed 'cutting charges' needed? Or, is this a mistake in calculations? Because, I'll be the first to admit to the occasional mistake in calculations, being Human and all ....

What troubles me is the way it could be timed so precisely. Silently. Or, at least, in a way that the sounds of those 500+ 'cutting charges' were never heard, from outside the structure...even though a whole lot of video cameras were recording, that afternoon.

The ONLY other possiblility my 'logic hat' allows, based on what I've been reading, is the relatively 'silent' "hissing" of thermitic reaction 'cutting'.

However, I see a bit of a problem with exactitude in timing of 500+ thermitic reaction 'cutting charges'----

Am I explaining what I'm thinking well enough to help people understand????

Thanks.



posted on Mar, 9 2010 @ 10:13 PM
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Originally posted by rush969

Originally posted by SPreston
Obviously only demolition explosives could remove the 8 floors, and if NIST is correct, then somebody rigged each of those 8 floors for demolition, shearing each of the 81 columns on each of the 8 floors. That equals 648 charges of whatever type rigged for demolition, and ensuring 2.25 seconds of freefall.


I'd like to know how all the firefighters/ recue people missed seeing all these charges while going up and down the building for most of the day.
and how about the workers of that building being there everyday beforehand, would they not have noticed.

[edit on 9-3-2010 by redgy]



posted on Mar, 9 2010 @ 10:58 PM
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I know. I know...

The "secret agent perps" rigged the building months before 9/11 and set the secret hidden undetectable charges to go off at the moment when WTC 1 was falling.
This is why we don´t hear them, because the roar of the collapse of Tower 1 hides it from us.
And these charges were so sophisticated and so perfectly dossed in the structure that the damage they produced took the hours that the perps wanted before the collapse ensued, thus creating the nightmare to the people of having to decipher such malevolous maquieavelic and elaborate plan.

Did I get it?? Did I??


OH My God. I´ve debunked myself!!!


[edit on 9-3-2010 by rush969]



posted on Mar, 9 2010 @ 11:06 PM
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Not to change the subject but Loose Change director Jason Bermas is interviewed about his upcoming "Invisible Empire" film

Jason Bermas announces his new New World Order film

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posted on Mar, 10 2010 @ 12:53 AM
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But weed, remember not too long ago? We were being told that it wasnt just any thermite. It was that super-nano-thermite that explodes, rather than burns and melts. It can just be painted on, like in that one video of the test on the dummy. (I forgot who posted it). But that was technically an explosive in a "goop" form so I dont know. lol. But apparently the soup dejure was supernano thermite that explodes not too long ago.

I guess now they are going back to the regular ho-hum thermite. Strange isn it? First it was demo charges, then it was thermite, then it was nano-thermite, then it was super-nano-thermite that explodes, and now here we are backtracking to demo-charges and regular thermite. My my my, its getting very hard to follow these "PROOFS!" of demolition with "explosives" when the damn things keep changing faster than Superman in a phone booth.

For all of you "controlled demolition" believers........
Can you all please, PLEASE pick one, ONE coherent idea or object, or device that "could have been used" in the alleged "demolition" of WTC7? Just one. Because you people just cannot keep cycling through the different versions of what could have happened, and act like each one is the definitive version. Because first we were led to believe it was regular demo charges. Then it was thermite (which caused the alleged "pools" of "molten steel" in the debris weeks later). Then it was nano-thermite in sol-gel form that was painted on in a tiny thin layer (whatever happened to that?) Then it was super-thermite that is explosive. Then it was super-thermite than can be painted on and then detonated. Then we hear about how there was "molten steel" in the debris and how can that happen if the super-nano thermite exploded? People, please, get your stories straight. Pick one damn path and follow it, and stop jumping around from one idea to the next and using them interchangeably. Its getting quite pathetic when you cant even keep one part straight long enough to make it make sense. Makes the "OS" version look that much stronger too.... just sayin tis all



posted on Mar, 10 2010 @ 02:31 AM
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Originally posted by rush969
UUUPSS!!!
Sorry...


Should that be:
=Put a couple of sticks of dinamite next to each column.=
=That should do it.=



Thanks agian for showing us how OSers live in a fantasy world.



posted on Mar, 10 2010 @ 02:34 AM
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Originally posted by SPreston
Except it would have taken days, starting in the afternoon of 9-11, to rig WTC7 for demolition .


It takes days in a normal demolition, not in a emergency situation like 9/11.



posted on Mar, 10 2010 @ 02:55 AM
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Be careful what you ask for.
I have spent time looking at sound suppression technology in the stacks at the patent office doing a patent search for a buddy.There are/were many file cabinets full of stuff you would not believe.That's all the unclassified stuff.

One repeating principle I learned as I read a gazillion ideas is that no matter if it's a gun silencer or a wind sock for recording is that shapes strongly influence the way energy is disbursed and how it sounds.I strongly suspect a way to turn those BOOMS into a deeper rumble expressing more energy even,yet not being picked up and heard is entirely feasable and might be much smaller and easier than it seems ought to be.Just sayin'

Anyone can prove it to themselves by taking a cone and yelling,not into the small end,but the larger.Reverse megaphone effect.The sound is turned into cone vibration and heat and sounds much less,same energy output though.The soundwaves are turned back inward and at an oblique angle to the origin and cancel or dampen.Works great.



posted on Mar, 10 2010 @ 04:08 AM
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I think if you find yourself in a situation where you maintain 648 demolition charges went off, but have to suggest no-one heard it because the explosions were supressed, it's time to look for a new theory.



posted on Mar, 10 2010 @ 08:39 AM
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You seem to be saying that there is evidence that wasn't discovered because no one looked for it, and therefore I can't say that there is no evidence. My counter is that as of right now, there is no evidence. You can claim that there should be evidence, there might be evidence, no one looked for evidence, but you can't claim that there is evidence until it is found.
Until there is some evidence, there is no evidence.

What other question?

[edit on 3/10/2010 by pteridine]



posted on Mar, 10 2010 @ 08:42 AM
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Not sure if it's been mentioned in the 54 previous pages, but even if it had, it's worth mentioning again...

Besides WTC 1 & 2, ALL the others 3 - 7 were damaged by falling debris and caught on fire, yet of these last 5, ONLY WTC-7 came down.

Zoom to the 3:50 mark of this video below to see the clear pictures of extensive damage to Buildings 3, 4, 5, & 6, - MUCH MORE SO THAN WTC-7 - yet, they remained standing
(as steel structured buildings always do!)

www.youtube.com...


Not sure why embed didn't take - can someone give me the instr for that? Good lord





[edit on 3/10/2010 by SquirrelNutz]



posted on Mar, 10 2010 @ 08:46 AM
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What emergency situation? I thought the entire thing was planned by the Illuminati at the signing of the Constitution.

You might want to get on the same page as some of your fellow travellers.



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