Is Latoya Jackson trying to tell us something?

yes... DAN, that was a very good post.

are you a policeman by anychance?

reply to post by LususNaturae


No, I am not in law enforcement ... I do try lay down the law when it comes to my 14 year old, if that counts?

reply to post by davesidious


I take it by your comment you haven't got a clue what is going on in the music industry, and how it is being manipulated by TPTB? i have done my research thank you very much, to the point that i run a forum on the subject, so i do know what im talking about. you on the other hand seem a little naive to it IMO.

reply to post by neo5842


I've seen the sum of your evidence, and it's laughable. Don't expect to attract anyone with critical thought to your beliefs until you can at least demonstrate 'TPTB' are doing what you say.

The music industry cares about money, and money alone. They don't care about the illuminati. Your theory reeks of paranoia coupled with a rather stubborn confirmation bias. Until your research can be distinguished from such a bias, it is not better than it.

if anyone knows about the origins of music they will realise that lucifer was the greatest muician in heaven, in fact according to many thosophists and occultists it was the one gift god gave to lucifer.

based on this it is little wonder that the majority of youth listen to music that has a negative impact on them.

to say MJ was not influenced by the occult worlds is like saying fish dont live in water.

If you look at some of his album covers you can see the evidence in front on your very eyes. his last video "they dont really care about us" has a massive one eye on the wall next to where MJ is standing.

Also to add to this one of his album covers had a picture of alaister crowely on it...none other than the leading candidate for the role of antichrist in his time. Also other albums have skull and bones and the all seeying eye on them....

shall i continue?

1. It had never been about money with Micheal Jackson. He was a gifted music prodigy. The joy of life and living is evident in his music. It touches mankind in many ways, and of all ages.

2. The music INDUSTRY may had been about money. BUT killing this talent, just when he is about to relaunch his career with great new songs, that will keep the music execs in financial ecstacy for years to come? Dead, his albums may sell another million, but alive, his out of this world music would have sold billions more. Makes no financial sense to want him dead.

3. It is common that TPTB loves to cut down those whom may grow too tall for their own good and become a challenge to them. Child molestation is one of the more common tactics in a conservative world. Adultry, sodomy are next.

What was MJ gonna sing or say that frightened TPTB to deserve death? OR was it just a simple case of drug overdose caused by his own malpractising doctor?

Questions I have no answers for....as well as for many other talented people's suspicious 'deaths'. The clues can only be found if we discussed and debate on it, to find a logical answer, and that can only happen if those have credible facts to present for deliberation....

No stone unturn is the only way to deny ignorance, not by way of impatient egoistical dismissal.

reply to post by Icecoldfm


Pure conjecture. Please don't continue.

reply to post by SeekerofTruth101


The music industry didn't kill him. But, if they had, the record companies made an absolute shed load after he died, and will continue to rake in lots of money just as Elvis's records keep selling long after he died.

I do think there is something more to MJ's death.Latoya has no credibility but,let's take a look at who benefits from his sudden departure:Joe Jackson his father and his handlers knew that Michael had hit the point in his career where he was worth more dead then alive so they perhaps had his doctor do what he did...

Well I pretty much never could stand Jackson in the first place, but he did owe Sheik Abdulla Al-Khalifa £4.7million; he claims he was owed after Jacko allegedly reneged on a record deal. He is also the second son of the King of Bahrain. He paid for a recording studio at Neverland ranch and settled his £1.4million lawyers’ bills over his criminal trial on child abuse charges. Jackson always claimed the payments were GIFTS! I think he was probably pretty ticked off.

Me thinks he may have been taken out perhaps.

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Originally posted by Icecoldfm
It's more people involved and they know exactly who they are and I'm going to let you guys know exactly what's happening, what's going on."



Thoughts?

Uh Yeah.....what is she waiting for?

Oh I remember now, she is holding out to milk a little more attention from her brothers death, just like her father and her brothers.

She is a joke and embodies what most of Hollywood truly is. Blood sucking leeches. Her next book should be coming out any minute now, detailing "the truth" for only 19.99

I should know, I lived there for 6 years.

reply to post by davesidious


how can you say "they only care about money" when you have backmasking in music saying all kinds of crazy stuff like (Jay~Z) www.youtube.com... its not just about money its about the war on your MIND!!!

Can we really say LaToya has NO credibility AT ALL? She was the first (and only to my knowledge) family member to publicly state that her brother was murdered, and since then the L.A. County coroner ruled his death a homicide.

Sure, LaToya may want to see profit by some of her claims. But if you really look at what she has said over the years, much of it is probably based in truth. Come on, her father is a wack job. Anyone can see that just by watching the way he reacted to Michael's death that this man doesn't care about anyone but "Number One." LaToya has said her upbringing was centered around the teachings of the Jehova Witnesses. She was at odds with the extreme beliefs of the faith--she didn't agree with their philosophy (and rightly so, IMO). She was vilified by her family for this. She says her father used verbal and physical, and sexual abuse against the kids to force their pursuit of careers in the music industry. Is any of that so hard to believe.? I say, hell no it's not!

They denounced her marriage to Jack Gordon, who wound up being physically abusive to her (surprise, just like dad), yet her dad is the one who hired the guy to manage her career in the first place!

It seems to me there's been more of an attempt on her family's end to discredit her to protect their own asses, as opposed to this being about her making up a bunch of lies for money. Not saying she hasn't tried to profit from it--but I think she has more credibility than people think. I think she's more credible than either one of her parents.

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reply to post by etrnal knowledge


I think this backmasking stuff is ridiculous. How can these "subliminal messages" influence anyone if they listen a song played in the customary way? You can't get the message unless you play the thing backwards. I think a lot of that crap is done to create a buzz and generate sales. If the Jay-Z example in your YouTube link is authentic, it sounds like it was something put there intentionally, but most of the other samples I've heard over the years are barely decipherable and subject to interpretation by the listener.

reply to post by SeekerofTruth101

3. It is common that TPTB loves to cut down those whom may grow too tall for their own good and become a challenge to them. Child molestation is one of the more common tactics in a conservative world. Adultry, sodomy are next.

It sounds like you are quite a fan of MJ, so I don't want to offend you, but the child molest allegations aren't exactly so far fetched even though some parents seemed to be eager to cash in on the claims. MJ was obviously very emotionally disturbed. He did anything and everything he could to try to recreate a childhood that was stolen from him by his parents (father). I do believe he was probably sexually abused and, therefore, he was sexually confused. That is not a conspiracy that is the typical behavior you often see with children who've gone through that.

Had MJ "come out" with some revelation about the Illuminati, people would have thought it was just another "Wacko Jacko" moment and they wouldn't have listened anyway, even if he was telling the truth, unfortunately.

Listened to the "they Don't REally Care About Us" video which I have seen before but at about 4:18 I can hear a woman and a mans voice talking in the background. Did anyone else pick up on this and if so can you decifer what they are saying? Is it part of the lyrics or what? Thanks for the information. Just thought that was curious. Also I am still looking for the video someone else mentioned about Michael speaking out against TPTB.

I thought it had already been declared a murder? Why does this statement seem shocking to some?

reply to post by millionairemommy


He was certainly talking about the powers that be in that song. Have you seen the video? It is pretty explicit.

To SpeakerofTruth...

Yes I have seen that video a couple of times before and it is pretty obvious in the lyrics and visual but what I was referring to is that I can hear some background speaking at the end between a woman and man and can't tell if it is just bad audio or something more. Hopefully someone with better ears to hear than mine and maybe better computer audio can figure it out. It starts around 4:18 in the video. Thanks for your response.