ALERT! - World governments admit to having capability of making tsunamis and earthquakes!!!

reply to post by Phage


Why not quote the whole article? why not quote the whole website?

I selected the section that directly addressed the issue at hand.

The quote I emphasized with Italics clearly indicates "can" not "could" like the possibility of bio attacks.

reply to post by NichirasuKenshin


Hard to believe you just joined and just happen to be such a specialized expert on this subject. What are the odds?

reply to post by Deny Arrogance

Because Cohen's response was to a single question. That's why his entire response to that question is pertinent.

You left out the part of his answer which makes it clear that Cohen was talking about how disruptive false and unsubstantiated reports can be. You deliberately left out the context of his statement.



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reply to post by Deny Arrogance


So I take it that you don't know who Alvin Toffler is. That strikes me as odd since I believe that you CAN NOT understand this quote without knowing what the Alvin Toffler reference is all about.

Once you figured out who Alvin Toffler is and why he is mentioned right before the essntial part of your quote come back and read Phage's post. You will then understand what he means.

And about your investigation skills... Post hoc ergo propter hoc is one of the most common logical fallacies there is. You may want to look it up someday.
And yeah, I just joined - something you did in the past too. That's very suspicious. Up till now you have not asked for my expertise on other subjects - look up other threads and you'll be surprised to see that I didn't join up just to point out the BS you are spreading.


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Originally posted by Zosynspiracy
We came out with the atom bomb in the 1940s?????????? Fast forward almost 70 years. It's absolutely ignorant and completely silly to think that the US government does not have the technology to alter weather patterns and cause earthquakes. This is no surprise.

In the UK we have had in the year 2006 in the winter snowfall 8 times in one hour where it was white outside for 5 minutes then 5 minutes later it was sunny, blue skies, warm and all the snow had melted then another inch of snow then all gone 10 minutes later we had spells of snowfall for 2mins at most sometimes then all gone. I was in an engineering lesson when i couldn't help noticed the weather pattern changed several times within the hour and as a storm chaser its not something id miss for the world.

I take it no one can answer my question or was mis overlooked so i'll ask again! If countries could turn natuaral forces on one another as the topic of that agreeement is about. HOW would another country or the world prove that a certain country USED a earthquake for example against another BEING that earthquakes are NATURALLY UNPREDICTABLE! and the fact that they are NATURAL! anyone care to tackle that?

Just a note:

If governments can do it, then mega-corporations can do it bigger, more often, more secretly.... [Where do you think governments get their technology and supplies?]

Also note:

Mega-corporations have WAY more reasons to do it. Like making money, wiping out the competition, making money, destabilizing regions so they can walk in and take the resources, making money...

Helluva motivator, money is. And it's much, much easier to get funding to make more money than to secure charitable donations for use wreaking malicious vengeance without hope of profit...

Originally posted by metalholic
I take it no one can answer my question or was mis overlooked so i'll ask again! If countries could turn natuaral forces on one another as the topic of that agreeement is about. HOW would another country or the world prove that a certain country USED a earthquake for example against another BEING that earthquakes are NATURALLY UNPREDICTABLE! and the fact that they are NATURAL! anyone care to tackle that?

Could they not prove it by starting with a group of people mixed between journalists, administrator's, coporate businesses, geologists and others that would work together of putting paper work from a so-called HARRP machine that could possibly show recorded evidence of an weather modification through graphs and data and then have the geologists go out into the field and prove again that there readings are exact as those from the HARRP machine. Then you'd need the journalists to gather information from ex- co workers from HARRP or government agencies willing to put everything on the line MAYBE to prove something like this. Just an idea.

reply to post by DClairvoyant


but lets say someone did come across so called documents the governmnet and the media and payed off scientists would most likely find a way to try and prove that the earthquake was anatural reaction being that nature is random! and the documents would be used on here in a conspiracy theory for people claiming the truth!

then you would have pahge come in there and debunk the doc's! but he does make sense alot of the time! seriously though think about it thats where it would end up a conspiracy!

Originally posted by metalholic
reply to post by DClairvoyant

 

but lets say someone did come across so called documents the governmnet and the media and payed off scientists would most likely find a way to try and prove that the earthquake was anatural reaction being that nature is random! and the documents would be used on here in a conspiracy theory for people claiming the truth!

then you would have pahge come in there and debunk the doc's!

but he does make sense alot of the time! seriously though think about it thats where it would end up a conspiracy!

Oh yeah i totally agree with you there it would be all of the above with what i have witnessed of events throughtout lifetime. Its in our history that top govt agencies and coporate interests can afford to pay off even some of the most honest of people and yet have the unfortunate chap who does manage to get hold of such patent files and debunks it then presents this information here say on ats and all-of-a-sudden is classed a big liar and conspiracist.

The way i view it is even if its possible of such technology i don't think such information would be disclosed to the public as it be bigger profiteering through poverty world wide than war itself. Therefore if its fact that HARRP is behind such exercises then what can we do? Speculate, whilst we could be in the shadows of them testing for lets say another 50 years and it'd be our grandchildhren having to pick up from where we started and history repeating itself to a point it'd be the next generation after the grandchildren speculating again what the govt agencies are capable of.

Unless we find someway of providing close enough proof we will never know unless we work together.

reply to post by DClairvoyant


yeah its like someone told me one time what can you do? they have the military they have the police they got the guns! and its true what could we really do i mean there honestly could never be a revolt in this country because of that its like if we want to go invade someone all we go to do is claim they got wmd's and draw up cartoony pics of semi trailers that are mobile factories and whose gonna stop us?

have you ever seen they live? you should check it out if you aint its cheesey and the acting aint great but its worth the watch...gives you an idea of how the world works as far as the people who really see whats going on and the people that dont and what it costs to wake people up hence why there are so many arguments on this site between 2 groups of people who cant prove the other wrong!

Originally posted by metalholic
reply to post by DClairvoyant

 

yeah its like someone told me one time what can you do? they have the military they have the police they got the guns! and its true what could we really do i mean there honestly could never be a revolt in this country because of that its like if we want to go invade someone all we go to do is claim they got wmd's and draw up cartoony pics of semi trailers that are mobile factories and whose gonna stop us?

have you ever seen they live? you should check it out if you aint its cheesey and the acting aint great but its worth the watch...gives you an idea of how the world works as far as the people who really see whats going on and the people that dont and what it costs to wake people up hence why there are so many arguments on this site between 2 groups of people who cant prove the other wrong!

Yup it sure does get irritating when you get these groups of people on this website who argue the simplicities of topics. i suppose its hard for one person to take another's word without evidence and i suppose its just one of those things in life, whether you get the gut instinct to trust that person's word from something similar you've seen but can't prove or whether its something you've experienced but wouldn't dare prove it because like you said who ever these people are "THEY" own pretty much the military, coporate businesses, administraions, the finacial system, and the media and the only way to tackle the problem would be to work alongside them, understand there system and work your way through and make enough people within those jobs to become self aware and stop being brainwashed like sheep.

You quoted

have you ever seen they live? you should check it out if you aint its cheesey and the acting aint great but its worth the watch...

I'm not quite sure what you mean by this?



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reply to post by DClairvoyant


here you go its a move watch it when you get some free time!

www.watch-movies-online.tv...

reply to post by metalholic
Yes,
A lot of what Phage says is plain common, though I'm not sure that he should have gone the step further and say that a particular technology does not exist,

"However, the ability to produce storms on demand, [the ability to produce earthquakes,] the ability to produce tsunami are beyond current knowledge and capabilities."

Only the all-seeing eye could possibly know that.

Maybe a separate forum for ideas on the subject of an Earthquake Machine would be something to think about, people throwing ideas about, and making notes, and having a strike board when more than one person comes up comparable thoughts or data, stuff like that. It sure would beat all this scoffing and back scoffing.

Originally posted by NichirasuKenshin
reply to post by win 52

 

As far as I know no one has ever reproduced the supposed earthquake machines of Tesla, every single attempt I know of was an utter failure.

If you have evidence of such a machine operating and producing repeatable results please inform us, I'd be most interested.

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"Give me a place to stand on, and I will move the Earth."---Archimedes

Peace

Yet another thread with a title that is not true and information taken out of context to support the falsehood. Deny Ignorance? I think not.

reply to post by letthereaderunderstand

Do you know what Archimedes was talking about?

The very question was on QI last night,
it was about hauling and lifting, a mechanical rhetoric most likely, yet is still a subject of debate today for those who want to take it literally.

i'm not saying we do or we dont but since there are alot people arguing that we dont here let me make this clear!

with a little will power and some of the top scientists and minds working together with a little will power it is not out my mind that we could not come up with something to call upon something like a tremor or an earthquake at will!

if we can freeze water by heating it up or boil it by cooling it which is being discussed in another thread why couldnt we have some sort of control over the tetonic plates or magma to cause earthquakes this goes back to frequencies if you can levitate stone and materials with frequency i'm sure you could cause natural disasters with it!

we once thought the speed of sound was impossible the came the sr-71 blackbird we once thought something like the a bomb would be impossible! who the saw the b-2 and the b-2 spirit coming? and even if you did the majority of the population didnt! they were being adavnced way before they were unveiled!

if one day we find that we (usa) or another country has the power to control the forces of nature even its just the element of earth or water as far a natural disasters trust that we alreayd had it long before!

I'm a little lazy to look it up but i think that treaty was made because they used to seed clouds over supply routes in Vietnam causing the roads to be heavily muddy, but it caused heavy environmental damage.

I guess they made it illegal so no one uses seeding against them. And making weather/environmental warfare difficult to research or use.

Cloud seeding is old tech, who knows what they have now.