What is Going on with our Sun ??

I'm sure that most if not all reading this thread are aware of the anomalies that have been orbiting the sun lately including the recent unusual activity captured by NASA SOHO. There is a high probability that there will be a massive CME as the one that occured in 1859 .. www.crystalinks.com... that could well wipe out our fragile power grid throughout the earth in the near future. The images captured by NASA stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov... of these massive ' orbs ' that are orbiting the sun , are discribed as being the size of the earth. Obvious question : what are these 'orbs' and what are they doing ? Could this be an attempt to avert this future solar event that we are witnessing here ??

[edit on 4-2-2010 by L.HAMILTON]

[edit on 4-2-2010 by L.HAMILTON]

The "orbs" are digital compression artifacts produced in the "beacon mode images" from the STEREO satellites, not real objects.

The interview with Kaku is from December of 2008 and is based on earlier predictions for the upcoming solar maximum. The prediction was subsequently modified. The current prediction is that solar max will occur in 2013 and be of lower than average intensity. It should be noted that nowhere in the interview does Kaku say that "there is a high probability" of a massive CME in the near future.

Originally posted by Phage
The "orbs" are digital compression artifacts produced in the "beacon mode images" from the STEREO satellites, not real objects.

The interview with Kaku is from December of 2008 and is based on earlier predictions for the upcoming solar maximum. The prediction was subsequently modified. The current prediction is that solar max will occur in 2013 and be of lower than average intensity. It should be noted that nowhere in the interview does Kaku say that "there is a high probability" of a massive CME in the near future.

Hi PHAGE , I read NASA's explanation of these images also. I don't buy it ; these 'objects' would have appeared in previous " beacon mode images " but only recently done so .

Originally posted by L.HAMILTON
I don't buy it ; these 'objects' would have appeared in previous " beacon mode images " but only recently done so .

You ask a question, get your answer and then reject it. I guess you only want answers that reinforce your own visions of a doom and gloom scenario. Perhaps you should state that in your Op?

Ho Hum!

IRM

Originally posted by Phage
The "orbs" are digital compression artifacts produced in the "beacon mode images" from the STEREO satellites, not real objects.

The interview with Kaku is from December of 2008 and is based on earlier predictions for the upcoming solar maximum. The prediction was subsequently modified. The current prediction is that solar max will occur in 2013 and be of lower than average intensity. It should be noted that nowhere in the interview does Kaku say that "there is a high probability" of a massive CME in the near future.

Take your digital compression artifact crap out of here...or show me another picture where those appear. Or explain why they show up as different sizes/shapes, until then...

Also have you heard that knowledge grows exponentially? I think this could be the same for the Sun...I think the storms will be significantly worse or just plain different during this cycle. No one cycle could ever be the same when something like the Sun is always changing and growing older. I really don't care WHO tells me otherwise but there is still just not enough information on the Sun to go and say what is going on and what is going to happen in this cycle. We can barely predict weather with any accuracy and to think we know what the Sun is really doing...HA HA

Originally posted by InfaRedMan

Originally posted by L.HAMILTON
I don't buy it ; these 'objects' would have appeared in previous " beacon mode images " but only recently done so .

You ask a question, get your answer and then reject it. I guess you only want answers that reinforce your own visions of a doom and gloom scenario. Perhaps you should state that in your Op?

Ho Hum!

IRM

You know he got AN answer, not THE answer. NASA isn't THE authority on space, in fact they are still very very mysterious about what they are doing and work for our, yup you guessed it, government! The same one that is always up to no good. I wish all the BILLIONS of dollars NASA has used would go towards some nicer cameras.

Digital image compression techniques (especially JPEG and GIF) never result in smooth, spherical artifacts. Anomalies produced by compression are always of an angular nature, whether they be squares or rectangles.

That said, if small spheres were actually near the Sun in the original captured image, compression would then probably make them look more angular - not spherical.

I'm not exactly sure what this is, however resting your case on image compression is inaccurate. If time allows, I'll be back with examples.

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The low resolution beacon mode images are replaced with the high resolution images as soon as they become available. The high resolution images show that the source of the "orbs" are bright spots caused by high energy particle hits on the sensor. The beacon mode images are not retained except as archived FITS files here:
stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov...

And (here we go again) here is yat another example of a beacon mode image showing an "orb".
stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov...
Once again, when this beacon mode image is replaced you will see that the "orb" is just a bright point on the image. The "orbs" have always been in the beacon mode images until somebody noticed and said, "hey looky! orbs!".

It would be kind of silly to try to "hide" the "orbs" in this manner don't you think. If "they" were going to do that, why would they post the beacon mode images in the first place? Don't you think?

The orbs are not a direct result of the compression algorithm (which is not jpeg, not gif). They are are result of taking the compressed low resolution data, processing it, and resizing the image. It isn't just "orbs" we see because of this, all kinds of odd looking things show up.

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Did I say there would not be a powerful CME? Of course there may be one but there is no more reason to expect one during the next solar max than there is during any other solar max. It could happen before during or after the next solar max. It could happen in 3 years or it might not happen in the next 100 years.

And that is exactly the point Kaku was making. We don't know when it will happen but now is the time to prepare in what ever way we can.

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He asked a question, got one opinion, that not everyone shares, and you criticize. Well, sorry, criticize away. They don't put censor blocks on compression errors. And furthermore, NASA and anyone connected to any authority's word means next to nothing, their track record for lies is galactic in porportion.

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Can you enumerate those lies? Just a few. If the numbers are "galactic" (how many is that?) that shouldn't be a problem.


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Can someone please explain to me one thing -

If these orbs are real then why arent amateur astronomers around the World seeing them as well through their specialised sun gazing Scopes?

Originally posted by grantbeed
Can someone please explain to me one thing -

If these orbs are real then why arent amateur astronomers around the World seeing them as well through their specialised sun gazing Scopes?

Shhhhh! Don't shatter the conspiracy with a logical observation. Someone may begin to think you are a dis-info agent!

IRM

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Damn good question.

If a mere human can get a photo of the ISS and shuttle in front of the sun from earth, surely it must be pretty easy spotting these 'orbs' or 'crafts' right? Afterall, they seem to be many, many times larger than the ISS.

Here's the above mentioned photo for clarity.

What say you, orb believers??

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Exactly. What an amazing photo indeed! The detail is mindblowing.

The only other explanation is that several hundred or thousand ordinary people who study the Sun are all complete Liars.

Originally posted by kyle43

Take your digital compression artifact crap out of here...or show me another picture where those appear. Or explain why they show up as different sizes/shapes, until then...

I love how people dismiss the most likely answer, call it crap and offer no logical alternative as to what those could possibly be if they aren't artifacts. Brilliant

So what are they? Massive explosions of solar energy? Space craft? Space Goblins? Sorry but the most likely explanation is the one Phage gave and even if that turned out to be incorrect it wouldn't mean anything out of the ordinary was going on with the sun there would likely be another mundane explanation to consider long before we start building ships to get off the planet before the sun explodes.

And if this photo did show anything alarming do you think youtube would be the first to discover it? Don't you think NASA and EXPERTS ON THE SUN would have something to say? Or are they covering it up because they want us to all die?

As I said the last time we talked about these "orbs", they look like spherical orbs because they have a bright portion and a dark portion that makes it look "shadowed" -- hence the 3D-sphere look.

However, many of those "shadows" are wrong -- i.e., they are on the wrong side of the object sometimes. So, the thing that makes them look like spherical "orbs" (the shadows) cannot be real shadows; therefore, they are probably not real "orbs".



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I'd like to say I still don't know what the orbs are and I am not claiming to know what they are. But I don't think they are simple camera faults, just a strong opinion.

The orbs have not been my interest lately with the Sun anyway (I'm so convinced UFO are real I don't really need to see or care for more information). I'm much more concerned with the effect it is having on Earth right now. Or some of the weird pictures that have come up on SOHO and STEREO. I think this Solar Cycle will be a wild ride.

[edit on 5-2-2010 by kyle43]

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You know the sun threads, CME's and other "SUN" related apocalyptic scenarios always kinda set me on edge when reading them. Then I think in the back of my head please god let phage come in and discredit this madness. I think "it's gotta be something logically explained, gotta be."

Then you show up with your well informed definition of what is "Really" happening.

If it weren't for you phage I might have had an anxiety attack by now.

Well done!

Originally posted by kyle43

Originally posted by Phage
Take your digital compression artifact crap out of here...or show me another picture where those appear. Or explain why they show up as different sizes/shapes, until then...

And you take your mean little rant out of here as well. The man answered a question with his experience, knowledge and well thought responses and instantly you brand him and idiot, liar, shill, disinfo agent...whatever

well believe what ya will...I will go with Phage seeing as it is highly logical

Meanwhile try to approach things from a calmer and less rude manner

-Kyo