"Spiral UFO" Photographed by Hubble -- in the Asteroid Belt!!

reply to post by JimOberg


"...This complex structure suggests the object is not a comet but instead the product of a head-on collision between two asteroids traveling five times faster than a rifle bullet. Astronomers have long thought that the asteroid belt is being ground down through collisions, but such a smashup has never before been seen."

So there you have it! Nothing out of the ordinary.

reply to post by JimOberg


As someone said, it is not a spiral. It is more like a starbust if you visusalize it in a three-deminsional plane.

It is rather unusual because it was newly discovered and classified as a comet and now seems to be more or an asteroid. So there, are two unusual features, and then there is the third one of it seeming to explode. The tendrils of the "explosion," however, look exactly similar to early drawings of comets before photographs were introducted. And actually, a naked-eye comet tends to sometimes look that way because a camera did over-expose the image to get the full effect of the coma and tail. It is not unusual for comets to display such outbursts.

Pressing the Hubble into use to images this body is also interesting. The time schedule for that is usually fully booked and some booked party must have relinquished their time for the image to have been taken.

All of those staid words above may have lulled some of you to sleep, so l'll liven up the conversation and suggest that what was witnessed was the distruction of an inbound envoy ship coming for the Disclosure celebration and the little bright spot to the side is the escape pod. You know, we mustn't get, or stay, too conventional with out ideas about what happens out there.

One of my favorite quotes: Ottot Struve, Russian-American astronomer who headed the first American search for intelligent life via radio telescope was reported to have made a very sage and strikingly humble statement for a scientist. "...I believe that Science has reached the point where it is necessary to take into account the actions of intelligeent beings, in addition to the classical laws of physics."

This object when viewed in a totally conventional sense (as a natural object) is a perfect example of how we are locked into anthroprocentric thinking for much of our thinking about the Universe.

Originally posted by bugstomper
reply to post by JimOberg

 

"...This complex structure suggests the object is not a comet but instead the product of a head-on collision between two asteroids traveling five times faster than a rifle bullet. Astronomers have long thought that the asteroid belt is being ground down through collisions, but such a smashup has never before been seen."

So there you have it! Nothing out of the ordinary.

I think Mr Oberg was sarcastic in his first post, He already knows that all of this was ordinary but like he did before sometimes he likes to (or maybe it is job don t know ?) post ordinary stuff suggesting there is something weird while knowing it isn t just in order to mock certain members.

It is obviously the Liberator from Blakes 7.

Time to dig out my curling tongue ray gun. I miss the good old days of cheap BBC SciFi.

Wow! That's an incredible find.. although it does look like it could be a natural occurrence. I think it's a coincidence that it formed that X-shape pattern. They claim that two colliding asteroids fabricated the formation, and I might actually believe their explanation on this one (rofl). It's interesting how it leaves that debris trail behind while still staying in formation though... don't you think it would have deteriorated by now with such a lengthy tail?

) There are many trillions of things out there that we have no idea what they are. This is unlikely one of them.

Well said. The universe is vastly huge. THere are entities, physical beings, dark and light forces out there that we have no clue what they are doing. We all know what a comet looks like, this is definitely not a normal comet. It Could be debre, ship, or even an entity.

Why can't someone just astral project and go and check this UFO out?

If I remember correctly, I'm pretty sure the spiral is used to represent the Navajo tribe coming out from inside the earth in ancient depictions. I haven't seen it mentioned around here, maybe it has, but interesting none the less.

Originally posted by djusdjus
a) it's not even close to a spiral by any measure.

b) it's an asteroid that is off gassing like a comet

c) There are many trillions of things out there that we have no idea what they are. This is unlikely one of them.

The object is given the descriptive title of P/2010 AZ by the International Astronomical Unions guidelines. So they view it as a comet--and why not with a tail like that?

The concept of there being trillions of comets in the far reaches of our solar system is a hypothesis contrived by Oort to explain the comets we see, and even his original hypothesis was flawed per the facts. But when strange stuff is seen in the sky, it has to be explained conventionally. Maybe why Oberg jumped in quick.

Originally posted by Ray Amuro
I think Mr Oberg was sarcastic in his first post, He already knows that all of this was ordinary but like he did before sometimes he likes to (or maybe it is job don t know ?) post ordinary stuff suggesting there is something weird while knowing it isn t just in order to mock certain members.

Yeah -- I think You're right about Mr. Oberg being sarcastic in his OP.

Still, it's amazing how many people didn't read the article in the OP...at least I'm assuming a lot of people didn't read it, becuase not too many peopl here bothered addressing what was in the OP's article.

Originally posted by Alaskan Man
hmm that is odd looking, i wonder what it is exactly


i can see a couple possibilities of it being a natural phenomenon, and then of course my imagination can think up exciting less plausible ideas fairly easy

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reply to post by JimOberg


"Spiral UFO" Photographed by Hubble -- in the Asteroid Belt!!

Jim, knowing that topics concerning UFOs and aliens are anathema where you are concerned, your thread heading/topic is intriguing! And do you even know what 'spiral' means? I don't see anything even remotely resembling a spiral!

And why put this in the Aliens and UFO forum? You should have put it in the Space Exploration forum instead, right? For Chrissake, this has nothing to do with aliens and 'UFOs'!

Ah! So you've jumped on the bandwagon too - the one ensuring that you get more hits/flags/stars by invoking alens and UFOs!! But you don't get any from me for this.

Originally posted by mixmix
I make some zoom

enjoy!!

What's there to 'enjoy' in your badly pixelated zoomed image? It actually sucks to hell and high heaven!





[edit on 2-2-2010 by OrionHunterX]

Originally posted by BlinkofanEye
LOOK AT this one from 2003.........And NOT reported by main stream media...Why??????? Some believe NASA thought we were done for....kinda resembles this one tho...has the "horns" and tail.science.nasa.gov...

That was Comet Neat.
www.astrobio.net...
It was reported in the news.

www.space.com...

Internet accounts of a comet, supposedly bigger than Jupiter and possibly bearing down on Earth, have concerned citizens e-mailing astronomers and journalists worldwide asking if the end is finally nigh. True to form, the rumors also include allegations of a cover-up by NASA.

Scientists say there is absolutely no danger and call the suggestions of cover-up false and even silly.

www.universetoday.com...

Quote from source:
We reported earlier that on January 6, 2010, ground-based observatories may have spotted evidence that two asteroids had collided in the asteroid belt. Now, the Hubble Space Telescope has taken a look at the mysterious X-shaped debris pattern and trailing streamers of dust. With Hubble's sharp vision, astronomers believe a head-on collision between two asteroids has actually occured. Astronomers have long thought the asteroid belt is being ground down through collisions, but such a smashup has never been seen before.

"This is quite different from the smooth dust envelopes of normal comets," said principal investigator David Jewitt of the University of California at Los Angeles. "The filaments are made of dust and gravel, presumably recently thrown out of the nucleus. Some are swept back by radiation pressure from sunlight to create straight dust streaks. Embedded in the filaments are co-moving blobs of dust that likely originated from tiny unseen parent bodies."
Asteroid collisions would likely have an average impact speed of more than 11,000 miles per hour, or five times faster than a rifle bullet. The comet-like object imaged by Hubble, called P/2010 A2, was first discovered by the Lincoln Near-Earth Asteroid Research, or LINEAR, program sky survey on Jan. 6. New Hubble images taken on Jan. 25 and 29 show a complex X-pattern of filamentary structures near the nucleus.

I am going to have to side with hubble on this one and agree with the asteroid. Oh well, we will see an unexplainable UFO soon enough.

Pred...

reply to post by Haydn_17


Haha Love IT!

I've been enjoying the Mass Effect games for the last few weeks, as they released the second game of the 3 game series. Bioware did a great Job.

As to the OP's orginal post. Definitely a curious sight.

I wish we could get Nasa to invest in some better optics for looking around at things.

Certaintly is frustrating to see things that look like a dot-matric print-out.

Good find..

My guess is that this is a cynical experiment by Jim.

His title is the bait, the article the trap and UFO "believers" his prey.

Read the article and ignore the title and escape the trap.

Originally posted by Extralien
Wonderful object.

Had to bring a bit more colour to it so I could see what was going on in the pic.
It reminds me of a steam train puffing along.. see how it appears to have a puff of smoke that rises up but dissipates back down into the trail?

The trail also looks as though it is relatively flat, although it does seem to have portions where it looks like the trident at the front as if it was pulsing along.. ( a bit like the engines you see on those jet fighters where you see the burners pulsing...or like puffs of smoke from a steam train where you can make out each 'push')

It's really interesting how the trident shape is formed. Could that be a collection of debris that is moving along with the main object or is the main object spiraling around in such a way as to leave this impression?

What strikes me odd is the area in front and below the trident. It's almost as though this object is sucking up gasses or particles in front of it before igniting them in some manner which is illuminating the tail.

Very nice catch.
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that's exactally what I noticed as well.. what's even stranger to me is..

the very 'near' symetrical 'bow' of the trident.. logincally thinking, can this even be natural?? What are the odds .. ? On earth .. oh yes I have no doubt that something strange like this can happen.. just look @ some of the rocks in NM, AZ or other states in the US for a quick example..

but.. in the vacume of space ?? ! Even if it hit another 'roid' ...what would be the odds of it crreating 2 perfect bows..????

reply to post by JimOberg


Jesus Christ, that looks too much like a cross

could it possibly be the sign of the son of man?

reply to post by ucalien


yep .. i just replied to Extrellian (sp) on my observations as well.. and after I read yours..

I've come to the same conclusion, it's almost to perfect to be a 'roid' of any type. It's not natural..

What if we live in a Mel Brooks movie about the end of the world? No doubt if we did, we would be be on a collision coarse with "Planet X". Which would look like a giant X. Is the Universe a comedian?

Originally posted by bugstomper
reply to post by JimOberg

 

"...This complex structure suggests the object is not a comet but instead the product of a head-on collision between two asteroids traveling five times faster than a rifle bullet. Astronomers have long thought that the asteroid belt is being ground down through collisions, but such a smashup has never before been seen."

So there you have it! Nothing out of the ordinary.

They just "suggest" that it is .. nothing is confirmed yet..