Marines end Iraq mission as Army begins accelerated withdrawal

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The U.S. Marine Corps wrapped up nearly seven years in Iraq on Saturday, handing over duties to the Army and signaling the beginning of an accelerated withdrawal of American troops as the U.S. turns its focus away from the waning Iraqi war to a growing one in Afghanistan.

In Baghdad, meanwhile, Vice President Joe Biden held talks with Iraqi leaders amid rising tensions over plans to ban election candidates because of suspected links to Saddam Hussein's regime.

The White House worries the bans could raise questions over the fairness of the March 7 parliamentary elections, which are seen as an important step in the American pullout timetable and breaking political stalemates over key issues such as dividing Iraq's oil revenue.

There will never be a reduction in forces in Irag. We are now there as gatekeepers of the oil pipelines and to try and keep the various tribes from breaking into all out civil war. These religious/tribal conflicts goes back before there ever was a USA.

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We have to be the police of the world, it is our destiny.

Destiny is an excellent analogy.

I just wonder why we do not use the reserves in Alaska and the other oil reserves we have.

Can it be really so simple that it is not about the oil?

That this is ALL about EMPIRE.

Sometimes I like to use Common Sense and Occum's razor. Who exactly is getting the rights to the oil reserves there in Iraq. Multi-national corporations.

Hear that, MULTI-NATIONAL corporations. Not the US, not the EU, not Russia etc etc etc.

The other day amazinggecko had a thread on the ownership of the US by outside countries. The US is no longer owned by the US. It has become Multi-national.

Nothing to see here, move away.

Look papa, I see a forest, no son there are only TREES there.

Originally posted by endisnighe
We have to be the police of the world, it is our destiny.

Destiny is an excellent analogy.



That this is ALL about EMPIRE.

So our Destiny is to be Imperialistic Policemen. Says who?

Are you drinkin?

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So our Destiny is to be Imperialistic Policemen.
Says who?
Are you drinkin?

700 bases in foreign countries. Where have we been that we have not stayed? I cannot think of a country besides Vietnam. I will have to take a look and see if we installed a base there now that we have become buddy buddy with them.

If we are not police, why are soldiers having to Merandize "insurgents-or whatever they are calling them now"? Why are we prosecuting the "insert description here" in our Criminal Courts?

You do not put people that are on the battle field in harms way and expect them to be frelling COPS.

A LEO does what exactly, they enforce the law. So, for purposes that our government has determined, they have broken some law. I actually wish I could be a fly on the wall for some of these people being prosecuted in our court systems.

The lawyers (if they are any good at their job) should be able to show the TOTAL hypocrisy behind this IDIOTIC move.

What exact statute have they broken? Because "supposedly" we are at war correct? So what statute takes into account war?

Also, our police force (military) needs to protect the rights of those corporations. Everyone has been pushing the corporation hate agenda lately, I wonder why people cannot put 2+2 together. It is actually quite obvious. EMPIRE=Multi-National corporations=One World Control by a few elite.

It is NOT rocket science. It is basic logical and linear thinking. I tend not to look at the little things so much, they kind of get in the way of macro thinking. First look at the macro, then take the micro into the context of the macro. The reason we are trying these people in criminal court must be taken to the next logical conclusion.

We, or the future UN will become the police of the world. You have heard about foreign citizens being given US citizenship by signing up in our military? What do you make of this move? Use occum's razor, common sense and the macro picture.

What do you see?

As for drinking, could not be more sober and cognizant of my surroundings. Might have to run down to the local Pub though later.

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I see your point.

But it seems more of a choice than Destiny.

I'm glad I don't have any kids to sacrifice to the global elite.

In Baghdad, meanwhile, Vice President Joe Biden held talks with Iraqi leaders amid rising tensions over plans to ban election candidates because of suspected links to Saddam Hussein's regime.


wow and USA came in iraq for freedom and what was that again the fake democracy?


So this means, that iraqis in iraq can vote for any candidates they want or wanted, because america says so and they banned other candidates because of saddam ties? really, my people i believe this Nazisms


Sorry to say this, i think saddam was good.
He never really was that bad, ya ya i know he killed his own, but i really question that event.


In reality there is no real democracy, democracy just a word.



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[edit on 23-1-2010 by Agent_USA_Supporter]

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Oh, it is a choice. The whole world has made this choice. We have people here telling me great EU socialist movement is a pearl in an ocean of coal.

If we only give THEM more control of my life, my labor, freedoms, and my liberty, we can have a UTOPIA.

Here is the thing that people are either too stupid to understand or too brainwashed to realize, life is not about control, it is about discovery.

What can you discover if you are not the one in control of your own destiny? The destiny I spoke of in the prior post was about the Elite's Destiny.

All you have to do is listen to any of them. Any of the elite that do not have prepared speech in front of them.

Right now I am speaking from my heart and from my mind. I am not spouting prepared words of propaganda and obfuscation. Ever listen to any of the liars without their prepared crap.

This is how you can identify the liars from the truthful. Have you ever seen Ron Paul mess up and misspeak. No, why do you think that is? It is a very basic thing, liars need to keep their lies forward in their brain. The stumbling and the mispoken words are a symptom of trying to keep track of the lies and also their hiding of their true intentions.

This may be why I am becoming so pissed at the media and anyone espousing their rhetoric. Some in the media are actually telling some truths. You need to watch it, but first you have to think that everything you are being told is a lie, then apply what they are saying to the Macro look of the world. Is what they are saying apply to what you see in the REAL world.

Anyway, sometimes for some reason I can see trends, and the one I am seeing is the government is PURPOSEFULLY trying to get the American People pissed off. They are doing one hell of a good job of it. Look at how revolutions of the past were redirected and caused to further the tyranny against themselves.

Fact #1 Government cannot provide for you

Fact #2 Government will not protect you

Fact #3 Government in all of history (overtime) has become more and more corrupt

Fact #4 Since the installation of the Federal Reserve and the implementation of huge amounts of regulations, each successive generation standard of living has decreased. This since the end of the 50's.

Fact #5 All of the socialist programs of the Federal government are broke and cannot be sustained

Fact #6 The government knows that it cannot maintain this socialist system

Fact #7 The US government has outstanding liabilities of over $100 Trillion dollars and a current debt of $12 Trillion

Fact #8 The US actual assets are in the majority owned by Multi National corporations.

I could go on, but you get to see the world through my eyes now. I have know all along the path we are travelling would lead to this. Everywhere I looked back in the 80's pointed to this. It was only a matter of time. Foreign ownership or ownership by multi-national corporations of US assets would be the final straw, on the elimination of US sovereignty. The last two years has been the culmination of a long thought out plan and I would love to see the books of the Fed, to prove my hypothesis. This was not only the destruction of the economy, but this was also to buy up as much as possible of real assets of our country and dump all of the bad assets on the American People.


Welcome to the matrix!

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