Girls take on Monsanto

Originally posted by spinkyboo

Originally posted by 4nsicphd
reply to post by spinkyboo

 

Janice Fiels (Pres/CEO of McDonalds) is a Director of Monsanto. As is Gwen King, who is also a Director of Lockheed Martin. 2 VPs are female.

Interesting -
Thanks for that info!
And I'm sure there are more in there -
And there you have it -
Woman are nasty and will sell out too.
It's too bad.
So then I guess it really is a good thing that we
have woman like the ones in the video - to counter.
And I hope more men at the top get involved and
it would be good if Mrs. Obama spread the word as well.




[edit on 23-1-2010 by spinkyboo]

Here is a quote from one of those men at the top: "Monsanto should not have to vouchsafe the safety of biotech food. Our interest is in selling as much of it as possible. Assuring its safety is the F.D.A.'s job" - Philip Angell, Monsanto's director of corporate communications. "Playing God in the Garden" New York Times Magazine, October 25, 1998.

Oh yeah, Baby Bush's appointee for biotech policy at the FDA was the former attorney for Monsanto and one of its VPs.

Just FYI, Monsanto's political contributions are about 60-40 in favor of Republicans

I don't need scientific proof to know that when these evil felons get their heads together in a plot, then crook their finger to beacon me to head their way with a huge bunch of fliers and propaganda behind them, I'll shake my head, pull my cap down over my ears and walk away. These guys are demons.

These guys were nazi war criminals.

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Originally posted by Lkelly1965
reply to post by StrangeBrew

 

I would like to see some science to back these claims. From what I understand these foods are equal to or better for you then the organic one's

www.cnn.com...

Just my two cents.

The sooner you can realize for yourself that the entire food industry is a hoax and that the health care system actually promotes disease, the better off you'll be.

Every facet of medical industry education has literally been infiltrated by pharmaceutical conglomerates, their lobby groups and regulatory agencies such as the FDA.

So what we have are class after class of medical school students exposed to years of what amounts to brainwashing in medical information and teachings that have been manipulated as truth about health and medicine.

What this amounts to is less focus on food, real food, fake food, and chemical additives, and their relation on human health - and a primary focus on symptom solving with the use of pharmaceuticals. Hence the rise in all instances of chronic disease. Which is a stat by the way, less susceptible to scientific manipulation of information. Go ahead and look up any chronic disease and compare its incidence rate today compared to 20 years ago.

Maybe this video will help put the truth about health and disease into context -

thought some of you would be interested in reading some monsanto propaganda.
Monsanto Canada tech use guide

Originally posted by Lkelly1965
reply to post by StrangeBrew

 

I would like to see some science to back these claims. From what I understand these foods are equal to or better for you then the organic one's

www.cnn.com...

Just my two cents.

You might want to take a look at this study about the effects of genetically modified corn on mammals.

From the abstract:

Our analysis clearly reveals for the 3 GMOs new side effects linked with GM maize consumption, which were sex- and often dose-dependent. Effects were mostly associated with the kidney and liver, the dietary detoxifying organs, although different between the 3 GMOs. Other effects were also noticed in the heart, adrenal glands, spleen and haematopoietic system. We conclude that these data highlight signs of hepatorenal toxicity, possibly due to the new pesticides specific to each GM corn. In addition, unintended direct or indirect metabolic consequences of the genetic modification cannot be excluded.

One of the things that I find most interesting about this study is that it showed that the effects were different according to sex, and when sex was not controlled for in the numbers, there was no statistically significant variation. In other words, the GM corn messed with the female rats' kidney and and the male rats' liver, but this problem only showed up when they analysed the two sexes separately.

Also interesting that this describes itself as the longest-running controlled study -- the rats were fed GM corn or non-GM corn for 90 days. I wonder what the results would look like in a population that was exposed to GM food for say 30 years instead

Monsanto and what they are trying to accomplish could written about for pages but in a single notion what it is, is nothing less the complete control over the production of agricultural sources including control over the nutrient contents WITHIN each of their patented creations.

This is exactly the purpose of Codex Alimentarius as it continues its sweep into legislation across the globe.

And if you're still skeptical on Codex's effect on the general population at large, take a peek at this quick 30 second explanation.





[edit on 23-1-2010 by StrangeBrew]

Originally posted by SoLaR513
I wasn't really paying attention when I watched the video but I kept hearing corn over and over and something about killing bees so now I want to rush out and eat lots of corn and kill bees. Seriously though as far as I can tell everything is going to kill us, its all bad. The air the water the food, yeah were screwed but you know what? We all started dieing the second we were born. Life is terminal. Enjoy it now cause its going quick.

Seriously though, taking over our food supply with adulterated product that we can't identify in the market which is showing SEVERE decrease in life expectancy in those creatures that eat it is a far cry from, Gee, life is terminal.

HEALTHY life is only terminal from old age. Consuming crap that degrades our bodies and makes us die younger is NOT healthy.

I support your right to eat this crap, but I also support mine to refuse it.

I grew up in rural South Dakota in the 1970's.

There were always lots of tadpoles frogs, toads, salamanders and turtles until the mid to late seventies when Monsanto and DeKalb signs started popping up in the surrounding fields. These were outdoor experimental labs and test fields where they probably tested and developed pesticides, hybrids and genetic experimentation. That was around the time we stopped seeing so much wildlife.

I didn't put it together until years later when I was an adult.

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reply to post by SoLaR513

Seriously though as far as I can tell everything is going to kill us, its all bad. The air the water the food, yeah were screwed but you know what? We all started dieing the second we were born. Life is terminal. Enjoy it now cause its going quick.

I cannot tell you how many times I have heard this response from people I have talked to about the food industry. :shk:

This logic is incomprehensible. Yes. Nothing is perfect but the whole point is to minimize your intake of chemicals and "unnatural" substances to hinder the so called "quick" life.

If you have really found your bliss, your niche in life, you would not have this attitude. Please take the time to research and actually LISTEN to what they or someone else has to say next time. It could extend your life.

[edit on 23-1-2010 by Unlimitedpossibilities]

What no one seems to be noticing here is: It's WAY too late already, this is a DONE DEAL. This has been happening for YEARS. You are all already eating tons of this stuff and have been for MOST OF YOUR LIFE.

Note what they pointed out. Almost ALL soy is GMO, and over 80 percent of all corn and wheat. Also over 90 percent of all "canola" (rapeseed). Go look in your cabinets, and read the ingredients on your food. See if you can find anything that doesn't have one of those four things in it. Unless you are an organic vegetarian, you won't.

All the "healthy vegetable oil" that you cook with is GMO. ANY prepackaged type food has GMO corn flour, wheat flour, hydrolyzed soy protein, or high fructose corn syrup. Most have all four.

If you are a typical American, you drink Coke or other sodapop by the gallons. That stuff is probably the most toxic of all. You are basically chugging down straight high fructose GMO corn syrup. If it didn't have the carbonated bite to it it would make you puke. When you see tanker trucks pulling up to MicDeath or wherever to unload thousands of gallons of the "syrup" they make the soda from, note the HAZARDOUS WASTE EMBLEMS on the trucks.

If you eat ANY kind of "breakfast cereal", you have been eating this stuff for years. Your kids have probably GROWN UP ON IT. No one knows what the results of that are going to be.

Even if you stick with organic produce, but you eat most any meat or poultry, the animals are FED the GMO crap. These "RoundUp Ready" plants just soak the stuff up, and then get eaten, and pass it on to you.

Here in Mexico, they ran some extensive random tests a few years ago on the corn. Mexico is where corn originally came from, there are over 200 different species of corn here. Around 85% of them were found to be contaminated with the GMO DNA. Technically this gives Monsanto the rights to all of it. Monsanto has been taking over all the small farmers up in the north of the country. Their children are taught in school that it is their destiny to live in America, so they will desert their family farms. This is why there is such a huge Mexican invasion. Thanks, Monsanto!

I lived in Brazil for a while, seven years ago. At that time, they were not allowing the GMO soy, the main crop in Brazil. However Argentina right next door was allowing it. After over a year of legislative fighting about whether to ban it or not, they found that around 40 percent of the crop was already contaminated with it by blowing over from Argentina, so they finally just said, "the hell with it, allow it".

Some people will say, "Oh, the hybridization of plants has been going on for thousands of years" which is true. Read up some on Clarence Birdseye, the master of grafting plants together etc. However, he never was grafting A FLOUNDER OR A SALAMANDER ONTO A TOMATO. He never was grafting E. coli into plants, or other weird stuff that will DRINK POISON.

In other words, YOU HAVE BEEN EATING THIS STUFF FOR YEARS ALREADY. These tests they ran on rats etc. found them having deterioration of their organs after just NINETY DAYS.

Hmmm. Lately the incidence of diabetes, cancer and heart disease has been skyrocketing. Coincidence?

The ONLY way to avoid it is to grow your own food. Most people cannot do that. When TSHTF those who can grow their own food will be OK. Everyone else will starve.

As long as you have some heirloom seeds to plant, because the GMO plants do not reproduce. You have to keep buying the seeds from Monsanto.

Heard anything about this giant seed vault they have installed up near the North Pole? Holding the seeds of almost every plant int he world? Strangely enough, the biggest investors are Bill Gates, (huh?) MONSANTO, and the European version of Monsanto, the name escapes me. Look it up, it's terrifying. Why would they be doing such a thing? Do they know something we don't?

reply to post by craig732


It's not incorrect information. Here's one source, I'm certain there are others...

Recognize fruit and vegetable label numbers.

If it is a 4-digit number, the food is conventionally produced.

If it is a 5-digit number beginning with an 8, it is GM. However, do not trust that GE foods will have a PLU identifying it as such, because PLU labeling is optional. [6]

If it is a 5-digit number beginning with a 9, it is
organic.[7]

REF: Wikihow

Some of you are saying that it is too late.

but if Labeling becomes Mandatory like it is in Europe, consumers tend to buy non GMO

when the market diminishes, farmers will choose to grow what is profitable.

imho its all a matter of informing the public what they are eating and demanding labeling.

Originally posted by SoLaR513
I wasn't really paying attention when I watched the video but I kept hearing corn over and over and something about killing bees so now I want to rush out and eat lots of corn and kill bees. Seriously though as far as I can tell everything is going to kill us, its all bad. The air the water the food, yeah were screwed but you know what? We all started dieing the second we were born. Life is terminal. Enjoy it now cause its going quick.

You can have my portion of the GMO corn, soybeans, broccoli, and everything else. Seriously, send me your address and I'll have it delivered to you by dinner time. If you gobble it down quickly enough you might even become a contender for 1st place in the next round of the Darwin Awards. I will be visiting their web site often so that I don't miss your nomination and victory. One more for the betterment of the gene pool.

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Ahh the good old Monsanto Argument - Got to love it!

GMO is the way of the future sorry guys, just the way it is!

Organic produce is just not sustainable for a ever growing population.

Give a starving child in India/Africa the option of either no food or gentically modified food and see which one He/She chooses!.

Monsanto as a company are on the right track, with everything it takes time to get it right, if they dont do it who will?

Seeing they spend millions in R&D on a weekly basis and also employing top class scientists from around the world I cant see them as all bad.

Not saying they are perfect by any means and they did learn from mistakes in the past (Hence being involved in the making of chemicals) they are not involved in that kind of business anymore.

If you think Round up is bad now think of what it will be like now that the patient has expired and China is in full swing of mass produced after market round up YAY!

Sometimes one companies control can be a good thing and not a bad thing as opposed to 10 rougue companies breaking every rule in the book to get ahead!

As for Monsanto Killing bees - I mean really LOL As much information as you will find that will agree with this you can find just as much information that disputes it. We need more proof.



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[edit on 24-1-2010 by Mark_Frost]

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Mark frost, every one of your arguments have been debunked in this documentary.

you really ought to inform yourself before making yourself look like a fool.

Google Video Link

reply to post by Pan7her
Very good video, this shows Monsanto is going against nature, this is wrong, the thing they will do is to grow things that look like food and has long shelf life, other than that what good is it?
Just like I will not even buy a tomatoes nowdays, the thing is hard and will just sit there and never get ripe, has no flavor, what good is it, it does not even look good.
Grow Beefsteak real beefsteak.
And some of the people here at ATS I have begin to wonder, your going to eat this GMO,and move along with the times, well go right ahead, count me out.
I get most of my food from Trees myself, so I will not be to much concerned with this for myself at this time.
It's just the people in general, did you see they can make plastic from soybeans now, soybean plastic cell phones, now make a phone call and when your done eat the phone, then when it comes out you can recycle and make another phone.
But really why even worry about it, there will plenty be of Solent Green to go around soon enough.

Originally posted by setec astronomy
reply to post by craig732

 

It's not incorrect information. Here's one source, I'm certain there are others...

Recognize fruit and vegetable label numbers.

If it is a 4-digit number, the food is conventionally produced.

If it is a 5-digit number beginning with an 8, it is GM. However, do not trust that GE foods will have a PLU identifying it as such, because PLU labeling is optional. [6]

If it is a 5-digit number beginning with a 9, it is
organic.[7]

REF: Wikihow

The source you quote (www.wikihow.com) states this page as one of its references: Wikihow's Source.

The information at the your source's reference condradicts the infomation at your source.

Don't always trust blogs or wikis.

I think that if GMO is done correctly and has proper oversight, it can be safe and more productive for humanity.

However the way Monsanto rams things through, I don't think it's really being done in a safe nor proper way as it is now. Government and FDA is too easily bought off with lobbying money, so they do slipshod monitoring and end up paying lip service to the industry. Not to mention how many foxes are guarding the henhouse in this regard. Also Monsanto, although profitable, is anything but a leader when it comes to ethical business practices. They shouldn't be trusted at all.

I think unless some real oversight comes into play, we're heading for Silent Spring 2.0. (I know the bees are the big and important thing, but I haven't seen many birds this winter either. And it used to be that the feeders were fairly busy past winters.) Is anyone else also observing this?

Perhaps "the birds and the bees" phrase will take on a different (and unfortunate) meaning for future generations?

The trouble with GMO's by Monsanto, is that they have a stranglehold on the politicians, with many people who have either been to Monsanto from the government or are members of the government who have joined Monsanto.

here is a list, its no wonder that the U.S. doesnt require labeling of GM foods.


Who has been through the Revolving Door of the Monsanto Corporation and the government?


David W. Beier, ex-head of Government Affairs, Genentech, Inc., was Gore's chief domestic policy advisor

Michael A. Friedman, M.D, ex acting commissioner of the FDA - Dept. of Health & Human Services,
now senior V.P. for clinical affairs at G. D. Searle & Co., a pharmaceutical division of Monsanto.

Michael (Mickey) Kantor, ex Secretary of the Dept. of Commerce, ex Trade Representative of the United States, a member of the OilSpace, Inc. Advisory Board, a partner at Mayer, Brown & Platt law firm, and now - a member of the board of directors of Monsanto. (Advisor Board of OilSpace, Inc.?!?)

Josh King, ex director of production for White House events, now director of global communication in the Washington, D.C. office of Monsanto.

Terry Medley, ex administrator of the Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service (APHIS) of the USDA, ex chair and vice-chair of the USDA's Biotechnology Council, ex member of the FDA food advisory committee, and now Director of Regulatory and External Affairs of Dupont Corporation's Agricultural Enterprise.

Margaret Miller, former chemical laboratory supervisor for Monsanto, now Deputy Director of Human Food Safety and Consultative Services, New Animal Drug Evaluation Office, Center for Veterinary Medicine in the United States Food and Drug Administration (FDA). *(See note at end of this list)

Michael Phillips, recently with the National Academy of Science Board on Agriculture, now the head of regulatory affairs, for the Biotechnology Industry Organization. (BIO), (See L. Val Giddings above)

William D. Ruckelshaus, ex chief administrator of "our" EPA, now (and for the past 12 years) a member of the board of directors of Monsanto.

Michael Taylor, ex legal advisor to the FDA's Bureau of Medical Devices and Bureau of Foods, later executive assistant to the Commissioner of the FDA, still later a partner at the law firm of King & Spaulding where he supervised a nine-lawyer group whose clients included Monsanto Agricultural Company, still later Deputy Commissioner for Policy at the FDA, and later with the law firm of King & Spaulding, now head of the Washington, D.C. office of Monsanto.*(See note at end of this list)

Lidia Watrud, ex microbial biotechnology researcher at Monsanto in St. Louis, Missouri, now with the EPA's Environmental Effects Laboratory, Western Ecology Division.

Jack Watson, ex chief of staff to the President of the United States, Jimmy Carter, now a staff lawyer with Monsanto in Washington, D.C.

Clayton K. Yeutter, ex Secretary of the USDA, ex U.S. Trade Representative (who led the U.S. team in negotiating the U.S. Canada Free Trade Agreement and helped launch the Uruguay Round of the GATT negotiations), now a member of the board of directors of Mycogen Corporation, whose majority owner is Dow AgroSciences, a wholly owned subsidiary of The Dow Chemical Company.

Larry Zeph, ex biologist in the Office of Prevention, Pesticides, and Toxic Substances, EPA, now Regulatory Science Manager at Pioneer Hi-Bred International.

From morningmayan, her new video and a big thank you for bringing these up in a viral way.

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