Hugo Chavez says Haiti's earthquake due to American Weapon

Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by rich23

 

Piezoelectric effects are produced by electricity, electromagnetic energy is not electricity, it has no charge. In order to produce Piezoelectric effects there must be an electrical field.

As I understand it, movement in a piezo crystal produces small electrical charges: this is how movement from a guitar string is converted into sound in guitars with piezo bridge pickups. We have wireless transmission of electricity: so it should be possible to transmit electricity to places that could exhibit a large-scale piezo effect.

And any electrical energy produces an electrical field around it, surely? That's the basis of simple tech like transformers, electric motors and so on.

[edit on 13-2-2010 by rich23] (pesky tags)

[edit on 13-2-2010 by rich23]

Originally posted by saabacura
The United States apparently possesses an "earthquake weapon" that set off the catastrophic quake in Haiti and killed 200,000 innocents. Don't believe it's true? Just ask Hugo Chavez.

Citing an alleged report from Russia's Northern Fleet, the Venezuelan strongman's state mouthpiece ViVe TV shot out a press release saying the 7.0 magnitude Haiti quake was caused by a U.S. test of an experimental shockwave system that can also create "weather anomalies to cause floods, droughts and hurricanes."

I don't take anything Chavez say's as true. I saw a report (I don't recall the channel), that in his twisted view on socialism, he went through a market, and took what ever he want. The shop keepers were not paid.So he's hurting the very people he said he claims he wants to to help. This bafoon is a nut, pure and simple.

Regarding the earth quake in Haiti, I don't think HAARP has any thing to do with it. It was designed to study and perhaps modify certain weather patterns with the goal of defusing violent weather catagories.

Then again in the 1940's Nicoli Tesla, the inventor of A/C current, was in his apartment when he cranked-up a harmonic resonance generator. It began to shake his building violently. Some one called the police. They found Tesla smashing the device trying to get it to stop. (after a while he did). After he died in 1943, the Army confiscated his notes. Few of his private notes were ever published. The Army has always stated they never took the notes.

Since then we have produced area denial weaponds that use intense, sounds and microwave weapons. Also during WW-2 the NAZI's produced a sound weapons. But what possible benifit would the US have in causing the Haiti earthquake? Were spending a fortune with relief aid. The huge death toll was so high was not caused by poor building codes, Haiti had NO building codes. Maybe after all this, Haiti will have good building codes.Even if we could trigger an Earth quake, and I don't did think we can (for now), again, whats the point?

Hi arbiture,

Since you asked why perhaps i should ask you why would the US ( provided they actually have such a weapons capability) would not do it given what the US government have done to Haiti in the last hundred years? When you have familiarized yourself with the history in question i think you will be able then focus your attention on how instead of the why.

Regards,

Stellar

[edit on 14-2-2010 by StellarX]

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I told my mother that I thought the earthquake was man made by the HAARP weapon. She laughed her head off saying it's just another stupid conspiracy theory. Little does she know about the weapon that actually exists!!!

Originally posted by StellarX
Hi arbiture,

Since you asked why perhaps i should ask you why would the US ( provided they actually have such a weapons capability) would not do it given what the US government have done to Haiti in the last hundred years? When you have familiarized yourself with the history in question i think you will be able then focus your attention on how instead of the why.

Regards,

Stellar

[edit on 14-2-2010 by StellarX]

I tried to look at this taking into account my understanding of current technology, and the current geopolitical situation, and not the policy in the past. I agree some thing the US and other colonial powers, such as France, have stolen any thing not hammered down. It's one thing to steal raw materials, and take advantage of a corrupt government. Haiti is certainly not the only government we have taken advantage of. Governments usually do things because they will get something out of it. To be cold, we have been spending a huge sum on relief. To cause an Earth quake where you have a country ground into dust. And lets not forget the 250,000 dead, (as of now), many of the injured are being treated on ship and in the US. Again to be cold, causing an earth quake in Haiti is just not cost effective. Also; Regards.

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you guys are full of crap!!! the united states military may have some corruption in it, but thats because our corrupted leftist socialist government paid them to be loyal. the remainder is on our side(If we have a 2nd revolution it will be some of the military on govt side, the rest ion ours). the military doesnt just wreck s*** for the fun of it.if anything had to do with an earthquake machine, the govt probably did this crap to pump up obamas propaganda campaign, with him promising to give aid to haiti. Hugo chavez is a fascist dictator and full of s***.

Hi Arbiture

Originally posted by arbiture
I tried to look at this taking into account my understanding of current technology, and the current geopolitical situation, and not the policy in the past.

The policies of the past are the best guide to the policies of the future; those who choose to ignore history when attempting to explain current events of predict the future either do not know that or are simply too lazy to make the effort. I will presume that you just didn't know...

I agree some thing the US and other colonial powers, such as France, have stolen any thing not hammered down.

The US can be said to be one of the few remaining colonial powers but admittedly the vast majority of the countries in existence exists because of territorial acquisitions beyond their original tribal borders. As for the theft it was not so much about just stealing as it was about coopting the labor of the natives to make them mine the minerals, produce the goods and or harvest the grains.

It's one thing to steal raw materials, and take advantage of a corrupt government. Haiti is certainly not the only government we have taken advantage of.

And there is a vast difference between taking advantage of corrupt governments and simply creating your own by assassination of those you do not like, rigging elections by showering your candidates with resources/money and by creating a general international climate where certain political and economic choices can not be made without dire consequences for those making the attempt.

Killing Hope.

Governments usually do things because they will get something out of it.

Governments are in fact a reflection of the people but obviously the 'how much' varies greatly and given that those who have power rarely got it without great sacrifice of one or another sort they in mostly human fashion do what they can to defend their power and serve their own interest in as much as the society and it's norms allows for it.

To be cold, we have been spending a huge sum on relief. To cause an Earth quake where you have a country ground into dust.

We? YOU have been spending a great deal as it's your tax money they are using independent of how much you might be giving to charities yourself. Thing is if they care so much about Haitians why was it the poorest country in the America's hemisphere? Why is US intervention record in that countries history so one sided?

And lets not forget the 250,000 dead, (as of now), many of the injured are being treated on ship and in the US. Again to be cold, causing an earth quake in Haiti is just not cost effective. Also; Regards.

20 - 30 000 people starve to death each day with perhaps as many dying from preventable disease ( the type no one with running water and a modest food supply gets) so what is a quarter million for those who essentially safeguard and dominate the economic system that results in such inequality and suffering? I just don't think you, or really me, have a grasp of what suffering hundreds of millions of people are subjected to each day and thus we have trouble imagining atrocities of this scale.

Since i can not , and don't really care, to prove that the US or anyone else deliberately set of this earthquake i just wish to ensure that it's understood that they would if it they had the capacity ( as i believe a few countries do), if it served their interest and if they thought they had a reasonable chance of not having their actions exposed. This last century should certainly have proven what sort of atrocity is possible in even this supposedly modern age.

Regards,

Stellar

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Hi Phage,

Sorry for not getting back to you on that post but frankly speaking i should admit that i am putting together events and discussing technologies that i clearly do not understand well enough to defend in the specific and factual manner your asking for. Basically you can see what i believe and may , i think, have a good idea why i do and for now that's how i will have to leave it for lack of being willing to invest the time to try and prove the exact means&methods by which i think these weapon effects are achieved.

I will even admit that i don't really want to believe it either and would be happy to dismiss these events are merely coincidental.

Thanks®ards,

Stellar