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Figured this would be a good place to start posting on the nwo and the illuminati which in my opinion go hand in hand in a positive vs. negative kinda
way. So to start off i began digging on the net for information about globalist elites nwo illuminati and more i started by searching about the
motherland africa and illuminati influences which il share with you in a second and i came across quit a few nuggets that have me bewildered in the
sense of how i came across some of this information i will post portions of paragraphs and links so that you guys can have a full read for your self
but one thing that i already knew but have been amazed at is how deep the rabbit hole actually goes and the fact that all it takes is reading and
reviewing and searching about what you've learned to realize the thousands of people and trillions of dollars that are involved with this topic which
i must state is just a hobby i enjoy learning and researching and history is very interesting to me because well.. IT REPEATS ITSELF!!!
So to start off il explain how i came across this first nugget
I started searching for who rules south and north Africa and learned that it is not as simple as that because Africa is divided into states,
countries, and i believe provinces or somewhere around the likes of a province which all have different kings,presidents, and head honcho's. So i
found out who some of the bigger names were and decided to do a search on them including the word illuminati in the google search bar got quite a few
result involving Mandella skipped those i wanted something less talked about but just as important but found a webpage written about not just the
illumnist you've heard of but a deep history of family's and hierarchy's that crisscross nations it was unbelievable what i was reading here is the
address i came to
12160.info...
give it a glance once it loads and it actually breaks down a huge load of info on past and present families and how they are connected and have been
the ruling factions in their regions since we as man could write history it reminds me of The Game of Thrones series in a weird way in that different
families rule different areas and how they created the noble families to serve them which in my opinion is what has been going on in the real world
these ruling families have been in power because of the people they appoint to serve them whether it be government agencies people to pour your drinks
or soldiers used for offence and defense here is a few paragraphs to get you interested and hopefully you will go to the site and read more!
Following on from part I, my reason of quoting these other countries in part one and continue so here, is just to show how widespread monarch
families really are, as generally speaking, you’re average person thinks of Queen Elizabeth II, King Carlos of Spain, Sultan of Brunei, Prince
Rainer III of Monaco, or Queen Beatrix of the Netherlands as the worlds monarchs, which as we know is nonsense, but nevertheless it’s a kind of
generalised perception, even though we know it’s vastly incorrect.
Queen Elizabeth II
Queen Elizabeth II
Here's a quick run down of Queen Victoria, Monach of the United Kingdom and British Empire, born 24 May 1819, died 22 January 1901aged 81. Married in
1840 to Prince Albert of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha, and was the daughter of Princess Marie Luise Viktoria of Saxe-Coburg-Saalfeld, [17 August 1786 – 16
March 1861], who was the fourth daughter and seventh child of Franz Frederick Anton, Duke of Saxe-Coburg-Saalfeld, and Countess Augusta of
Reuss-Ebersdorf [15 July 1750 – Coburg, 9 December 1806.
He is a direct ancestor of Elizabeth II of the United Kingdom, Albert II of Belgium and Simeon B. Sakskoburggotski, former Tsar [Simeon II] and prime
minister of Bulgaria.
Princess Marie Luise Viktoria’s mother was Countess Augusta of Reuss-Ebersdorf, who was the second of seven children of Heinrich XXIV, Count Reuss
of Ebersdorf and his wife Karoline Ernestine of Erbach-Schönberg. Her birthplace, Ebersdorf, was a centre of Pietism, and extension of the Puritan
movement in Thuringia.
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The Luther Rose
Philipp Jakob Spener [January 13, 1635, Rappoltsweiler – February 5, 1705, Berlin] was a German known as the "Father of Pietism." The Pietist
movement is part Lutheranism.
Augusta's grandparents were ardent admirers of this religious movement. Augusta's great-aunt Countess Erdmuthe Dorothea, by marriage Countess of
Zinzendorf was married to the founder of the Moravian Church. This background explains the deep religious feelings of Princess Augusta in later years.
The Moravian Church, [Latin: Unitas Fratrum, meaning Unity of the Brethren], is a Protestant denomination. Its religious heritage began in 1457 in
Kunvald, Bohemia, Czech Crown lands. It places a high premium on Christian unity, personal piety, missions, and music.
Franz Frederick Anton, Duke of Saxe-Coburg-Saalfeld, can be traced as far back as the Wettins via the John II, Duke of Saxe-Weimar and Jena
[Johann Maria Wilhelm[ [Weimar, 22 May 1570 – Weimar, 18 July 1605], was the predecessor of Frederick Wilhelm I, who succeeded from Johann Philipp,
Frederick, Johann Wilhelm, Frederick Wilhelm II jointly from 1603 as Dukes of Saxe-Altenburg. Whose linage goes via John Ernest I, Duke of
Saxe-Weimar, William, Duke of Saxe-Weimar, Albert IV, Duke of Saxe-Eisenach, Ernest I, Duke of Saxe-Gotha, Prince Bernhard.
John II full name was Johann Maria Wilhelm House of Wettin, father John William, Duke of Saxe-Weimar and mother Dorothea Susanne of Simmern,
which descends via the Wittelsbach family and dynasty from Bavaria. Franz Frederick Anton, Duke of Saxe-Coburg-Saalfeld and was succeeded Johann
Ernst I in Saxe-Weimar, Albrecht in Saxe-Eisenach, Ernst I in Saxe-Gotha
At the age of 17 years old, on 21 December 1803 at Coburg, Princess Marie Luise Viktoria married Emich Karl, Prince of Leiningen [1763–1814],
she was to be his second wife, and they had one son and daughter. He had previously been married to Henrietta of Reuss-Ebersdorf, who was an aunt of
the Princess, though this was to end in divorce and on 29 May 1818 at Amorbach.
Princess Marie Luise Viktoria then married Field Marshal Prince Edward Augustus [House of Hanover] Duke of Kent and Strathearn on 29 May
1818 [Age 31] at Coburg [1767–1820], and did so again on 11 July 1818 at Kew Palace. Their only daughter was Queen Victoria, and Edward had
at least two illegitimate children by different mothers, including Adelaide Victoire Auguste Dubus [b. 1789] and Edward Schencker Scheener
[1789-1853] - 'civil servant and half-brother of Queen Victoria'.
Edward was the fourth son of King George III [George William Frederick; 4 June 1738 – 29 January 1820] who was made King of Hanover on 12
October 1814. The House of Hanover [the Hanoverians] is a younger branch of the House of Welf, which in turn is the senior branch of the House of
Este.
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Sultan of Brunei
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Prince Rainer III of Monaco
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Queen Beatrix of the Netherlands
Now this in my eyes shows how much disinformation and propaganda is helped spread about by our media, as the following figures were included in
an article written by Anita Singh in The Telegraph on the 25th August 2008, that is supposedly meant to represent the wealth of the top 15 Royal
Families, - because how is it then the likes of Egypt’s Hosni Mubarak can be worth more than double of what the number one is on this list.
On the 4th February 2011 in the Guardian newspaper, it reported President Hosni Mubarak’s family fortune is said to be worth as much as $70bn
[£43.5bn] [15a] according to analysis by Middle East experts, with much of his wealth in British and Swiss banks or tied up in real estate in London,
New York, Los Angeles and along expensive tracts of the Red Sea coast. I’m also not convinced as to why Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II is listed at
No 12, when she should be at least in the top three. Though this is how clever they are in concealing their truth wealth, whilst many others “new
money” love to boast, - those of real power, - remain silent.
Thats all i have time for tonight but i ran across some more interesting info that il give links to now and invite anyone to start talking about with
me i find this fascinating and in a way i cant stop reading but one must remember the pages im about to give go into detail on what the illuminati is
it tries to convince you that god is the devil (bad) and the devil is the re warder but at the same time through some of my readings i found that they
were also trying to convince that there are no gods and we are just animals in a survival of the fittest scenario it all seemed like a huge ploy to
get anyone who would listen to start pondering the art of being a good person some things that are stated on the page below once you start searching
through it seem like actual good advice or "guidelines" but at the same time i couldn't help but feel that it was just deceit to get those to think
like the godless and or devil worshiping ones. I found the site below by searching for illumniati in my home state Alabama when i searched Alabama
illuminati i found results that were interesting but not to hefty of a read but at the bottom of the google search results i saw some of the adds to
links similar to my search i.e. the illuminati one of the links said join the illuminati and im thinking this is so rediculous i have to click it just
to SEE!!!! so i clicked and the first page i came to was this one
www.illuminatisociety.co.uk...
under the link said join the illuminati couldnt help but click it. now when you first go there it seems very small and kinda setup but i started
clicking the different options, Ritches and Wealth, Fortune and Fame, and Power and protection reading what they each said it was interesting to know
someone went through the time it took to write this so i started taking it a bit more serious so i did a search on the name at the top for the
European Agent: Griffin Du Plessis the apparent author of this particular page. i scanned through some of the results on google and found his name
tied to another site
armageddonconspiracy.co.uk...
this is where i gets really interesting as this webpage is devoted to in my opinion the most extensive collection of illuminati knowledge i have ever
come across if you go to the page listed above read the introductionand scroll down a ways and you will see a list of sections involving everything
from history of people and the creators of illuminati to how to live and become illuminati here is an example
armageddonconspiracy.co.uk...(1426171).htm
Most people take it for granted that they exercise free will, yet the evidence seems to indicate overwhelmingly that they don't.
1) If God knows everything, including the future, that means he knows what you are going to do before you do it. Hence you have no choice about
what you are going to do. Hence you have no free will.
2) Everything has a cause. Human actions, choices and decisions have a cause. If something has a cause, a specific effect will inevitably follow.
If you are part of an inexorable chain of cause and effect, at what point can you make a free choice? According to the philosophical position known as
determinism, there is no such point. Hence you have no free will.
3) According to the contrary position - indeterminism - some human actions, choices and decisions, do not have a cause and hence are free. But if
an action is uncaused i.e. there is no reason for it, then it is random, purposeless and pointless. Hence there is free will, but it is contrary to
the cause and effect evident all around us, and it results in uncaused, random behaviour. And that is not what anyone realistically means by free
will.
4) Compatibilism asserts that a distinction must be drawn between causation and compulsion. An action can have a cause and still be free provided
that no compulsion is involved (like having a gun put to your head). But if the causes of your actions are ultimately given to you by your genes
and/or by your childhood environment where your character was moulded, then these were things over which you had no control, hence your choices and
actions are governed by forces outside your control, hence you have no free will.
5) Agent causation theory says that an action is free when an agent, and nothing else, causes it to happen. But there is no clear definition of
what a free agent actually is. Is it the free originator of an action or is it the constrained by-product of forces over which it had no control (such
as genes or environment)?
6) Imagine that a supercomputer could be built that could create a complete simulation of both you and the world you live in. Imagine that every
detail of your life was perfectly programmed into it. Imagine that the simulation of you and your world was run a day in advance of your life and it
transpired that 99% of the simulation exactly matched what you actually did the following day. Most people are extremely predictable. Their daily
routines are well known. Their tastes are known. Amazon can send you book recommendations based on your previous book choices and mostly get it right.
Advertisers can easily manipulate you. Opinion pollsters can accurately determine your likely voting preferences simply from your zip code/postcode.
Friends and family can predict what gifts you will like and dislike. You yourself know the experiences you are likely to enjoy and those you will
probably hate. You seek out the former and avoid the latter. Your life seems to run along railroad tracks. So in what way are you really free? Hence
you have no free will.
Free will is essential to Illumination. Without it, there is no morality. People must be free to choose but if their freedom turns out to be illusory
then no one can be rewarded or punished for making the "wrong" choices. Religion is meaningless without free will. Everyone might as well be an
automaton carrying out pre-programmed instructions.
Illumination teaches the following:
1) God has no foreknowledge of what anyone will do and makes no attempt to predict what anyone will do. Why would he? Concepts such as
predestination and determinism are anathema to morality.
2) Imagine a long line of dominoes, expertly set up so that once the first is pushed the last will definitely fall over in due course. This is a
model of the chain of cause and effect in the physical world. But if dominoes are replaced by humans, what then? Many humans might be happy to act as
dominoes but perhaps a group near the end will decide that they no longer want to stand in line and will walk away before they are pushed by those
behind. The chain of cause and effect will be broken. But how is that possible? Aren't humans part of the physical world, of the chain of physical
cause and effect? Illumination teaches that the physical and mental worlds are two aspects of the same world, and control can be switched from one to
another depending on the strength of mind present. This means that four different types of cause and effect are possible: a) physical cause and
physical effect (the domain of science) b) mental cause and physical effect (the domain where we mentally choose to carry out physical actions) c)
mental cause and mental effect (the process of organised thinking) d) physical cause and mental effect (the senses collect the physical information
that is used by mental processes). The chain of physical cause and physical effect can run parallel to the chain of mental cause and mental effect.
The chains of physical cause and mental effect and mental cause and physical effect allow the physical to impact upon the mental and vice versa. In
the case of dominoes, there is insufficient mind to alter the chain of physical cause and effect. In the case of humans, sufficient mind is present
and can lead to control being transferred from the chain of physical cause and effect to an alternative chain of mental cause and mental effect
(making plans to do something else) and mental cause and physical effect (walking away to carry out the alternative activity). In the absence of
strong mind, there is no free will, only the chain of physical cause and physical effect, but where strong mind exists, it can choose to break free
from the chain of physical cause and physical effect and replace it with an alternative chain of mental cause and physical effect. It is the fact that
different chains of cause and effect are available to us and that we can choose one over another that allows us to say that we have free will. But is
it genuine free will or are our choices somehow foisted on us?
3) If the mind of a human is shaped by physical factors such as genetic inheritance or childhood environmental inheritance (over which no human has
any control), is the mind ever free? Isn't it the slave of factors not of its choosing? Does a person with stupid parents and raised in a poor,
crime-infested ghetto have true free will? Can he genuinely choose any course of action, or must he necessarily follow a path laid down for him by his
poor-quality genes and hostile environment? Are criminals born or made? If children born in slums were taken away from their parents and raised in the
homes of the richest people in the land, and given the finest education available, wouldn't their "free" choices be entirely different? In other
words, is a person's character the product of factors outwith itself? If so, no one can be judged on the basis of their character since that
character would be radically different if the processes that formed it were changed e.g. by being removed from a deprived environment and placed in a
privileged one. Illumination teaches that reincarnation is the way out of the impasse. In a particular life, a person's choices are constrained by
the circumstances of his life, most of which are outside of his control, but over a number of lives freely chosen by a soul, the soul's true
character can emerge. If a person raised in a violent slum behaves violently, can he really be condemned? If a person born in privilege, with every
advantage laid on a plate for him, leads a respectable, prosperous life, can he really be praised? Surely not. Yet in the religions of Christianity,
Islam and Judaism, a soul can be condemned to hell for eternity on the basis of the outcome of a single lifetime. In these religions, no consideration
whatsoever is given to the circumstances in which someone is born and raised. (The soul is imagined to be a free agent, completely unaffected by genes
and environment: a scientifically absurd position to hold.) There is no justice in these cruel, Satanic religions. A soul can justly be judged and
condemned only if, over a number of incarnations, it consistently chose the worse over the better, evil over good. A single life is no basis for
judging a soul; a soul must be tested over a number of incarnations.
In a later article, we will reveal the true nature of reincarnation. It has no connection with the absurd concept preached by Hinduism and Buddhism.
No "karma" is involved in reincarnation. This is a nauseating doctrine, used to justify appalling abuses and the creation of a caste of
"untouchables" condemned to a living hell as unclean pariahs. Nor is the abolition of the self the goal of reincarnation. Few concepts are as badly
misunderstood as reincarnation.