The New World Order & The Globalist Agenda

AshleyD,

I've long had a curiosity about such threads . . .

how many people--numbers or percentage wise--

avoid posting on such threads to avoid going on record with the watchful PTB?

Understandable.

I just figure that WE'D BETTER be diligent about providing plenty of reason for folks to convict us of being authentic Christians and even patriots.

Anything less is beneath us as humans created in God's image . . . as well as our commission as children/joint heirs of the King of Kings and Lord of Lords.

Would people vote into a 5 state world?
Talking about NWO for me is talking about big changes, worldwide.
Personnaly I dont see consipiracy but a complex situtaion.

I feel some people maybe ready but then others who have something to lose might not be so willing but lets hope.

There is massive risks and barriers but positive can be seen.

reply to post by guidetube


The concept would be that regional and local governments would still exist, but that national entities would not. So municipal and state/provincial bodies essentially.

Actually, if you look at the nation-state, or country, it is a relatively new construct in human history.

I am all for the NWO, because the current one is a failure.

reply to post by AshleyD


Thanks! This is a well presented, very illuminating introduction to NWO classics, which I happened to be looking for a future references.

Hm, I tried to S&F you but was unsuccessful. Sorry!

reply to post by Leonidas

The essence of the NWO is in your bank statement, your mortgage, your 401k, your pension, your employment contract, the FDA, NAFTA, UN, EU. The NWO is here and is so pervasive already that we cannot "unplug" it without destroying our comfy way of life. The 1st world is bound by "Golden Handcuffs". The NWO is so interwoven into our lives that we cannot simply get rid of it, if we could identify it, without causing irreparable to our lives and our children's lives.

My thoughts exactly...well described well said!!

reply to post by Theprimordialocker


So what you are saying is that it is the CurrentWorldOrder. You and I agree, it is not working. A TRULY NWO is needed.

I do believe communities should still exist but a question would be what influence would they have on the other communities and what influence would the NWO have on the communities.

Possibly the communities would always have last say on what laws were pushed on them, sort of democracy down to smaller groups.

This way you have a choice of what will effect your community.
But this would have to be backed up by some basic laws such as you cant bomb your neighbours.

reply to post by guidetube


I believe the authentic Biblical prophecies which describe this tyranny from hell being in charge until after the literal Armageddon.

It WILL BE the worst time the world has ever experience and worse than it will ever experience again in the future.

I don't believe there is any solution for the planet in general this side of Armageddon. Prayer and small communities of authentic Christians supernaturally protected by the NON-fallen angels of God may well fare better than average. But there will be plenty of Christian martyrs, as well.

I am not sure what you are expecting but think I understand what you believe:

I only know a little on the prophecies but I take them with great heed.
I can see why the bible and other good people warn against a NWO and describe it as hell.
I think people might say they are living that now.

I think religion could have a massive part in a NWO because of thier predictions and followings, the unification of all people of faith would be amazing time indeed, bit different from this poitical situation we are in now.

Originally posted by guidetube
I am not sure what you are expecting but think I understand what you believe:

Thanks for a kind civil response.

Take the quotes in this first link as a whole . . . distill them down to a holistic summary . . . compare that with a summary of the Biblical prophecies in Daniel, Ezekiel, Psalms, the shorter prophets, Mat 24 & Revelation . . . There's a LOT of data points that match up rather closely.

twoday.net...


twga...

I only know a little on the prophecies but I take them with great heed.

There's a lot of wisdom, imho, in that.
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I can see why the bible and other good people warn against a NWO and describe it as hell.
I think people might say they are living that now.

This is just the "beginning of the 'birth pangs' " so to speak. We can see--somewhat--the worst that the oligarchy have planned--if we are well informed and discerning. However, I think the eventual worst will be much worse than our worst imaginations in our worst nightmares.

I think religion could have a massive part in a NWO because of thier predictions and followings, the unification of all people of faith would be amazing time indeed, bit different from this poitical situation we are in now.

Take the above thought exercise of comparing a distilled summary from the quotes . . .
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--compared with the Biblical prophecy summary . . .
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--throw in a summary of Cris Putnam and Tom Horn's Petros Romanus . . .
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--throw in a summary of their EXO-VATICANA

[color=6699FF]and THEN I think you can begin to get a glimpse of the rough outlines of what will trigger, cause, DEMAND a one world religion [eventually to worship satan as God] in spite of the parochial emotional and belief structures . . .
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. . . particularly with the fallen angels playing the role of ET's . . . whether they are cast as our saviors or as part good-cops and part as bad-cops--the net result will be the same . . .
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The uninformed, brainwashed, propagandized and numbed/drugged/drunked or 'merely' exhaused out . . . will swallow the swill hook, line and sinker.
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. . . all the way down into the caverns of the Morlachs . . . . for dinner . . .

. . . . perhaps . . . as dinner.

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This is NOT a good era to try and sleep-walk through.
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A NWO will have substantially LESS government, not more.

A whole level of government will disappear: the Federal Level.

Local and regional governments will have the freedom to govern their own affairs.

The CWO is a corrupt mess. Nations must go.

reply to post by Leonidas


It sounds like in your construction on future NWO "realities"

that the NWO

power mongers addicted more to power than to their $300+TRILLION slush fund

are suddenly going to . . . what . . . ??? . . . "get religion" ???

and walk away from all that centralized tyrannical !POWER!

????

As a shrink, I've heard a LOT of fantasies in my time . . . that one takes the cake.

Perhaps you've overmuch bought into their propaganda pamphlet 666.66 about how wonderful it's going to be for the local sheeple . . . errr . . . Eloi . . . enroute to the Morlach caverns.

I suppose a case could be made that a tyrannical !DICTATORSHIP! is more 'efficient' in terms of raw manpower.

I've just never read of any dictatorship in all of recorded history wherein the FEDERAL BUREAUCRACY REALLY SHRANK.

Tyrannical dictatorial bureaucrats tend to breed . . . not like rats or bunnies . . . more like bacteria.

First they have to expand tremendously the Gestapo . . . and man all the death camps . . .


Then, they have to have THE WATCHERS.

Then they have to select and employ the WATCHERS OF THE WATCHERS.

THEN they have to select and employ the WATCHERS OF THE WATCHERS OF THE WATCHERS.

THEN they have to employ the WATCHERS OF THE WATCHERS OF THE WATCHERS OF THE WATCHERS.

. . . wash . . . repeat.

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It appears to me, that you might do well to read more history . . . non-revisionist, authentic history.

Tyrannical dictatorships have been fairly common throughout history. This will be the worst one.

Oh, right . . . you said the current one is a corrupt mess . . .

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So . . . it is your contention . . . that the CURRENT CROP of globalist leaders who have increased and maximized corruption as never before in the last 200 years . . . who evidently, reportedly have to bugger toddler boys and then ritually sacrifice them to satan to join the upper ranks . . .

. . . the ones who have jiggered the Presidential vote charade for many decades . . . ?
. . . the ones who have assassinated Presidents at least from Lincoln to Reagan . . . ?
. . . the ones who have assassinated opponents routinely . . . ?
. . . the ones who have used the CORRUPT FEDERAL bureaucracy to punish their opponents . . . ? . . . you did hear of the recent IRS scandal, right? . . . yeah, those folks . . .

[color=CC9966]Those professional CRIMINALS are suddenly going to become sweet lil ole ladies at a Sonday afternoon tea with lily white hands and hearts????
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Or is it your fantasy that they will all suddenly step aside and somehow miraculously resurrect some of the authentic good folks they've worked so hard to wipe off the face of the planet and put those RESURRECTED SAINTS in charge of their extremely corrupt globalist machine?
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Originally posted by Leonidas
A NWO will have substantially LESS government, not more.

A whole level of government will disappear: the Federal Level.

Local and regional governments will have the freedom to govern their own affairs.

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I don't recall reading those lines in Alice In Wonderland.

Which part of THE RABBIT HOLE fantasies did you conclude that from?

Can you cite one solid case in all of recorded history where

ONE

Federal bureaucracy VOLUNTARILY declared their job totally done and unnecessary and went home to tend their daises and play put put golf?

Or perhaps you can cite one solid case from all of recorded history where

ABSOLUTE POWER DID NOT CORRUPT the Federal bureaucracy rather thoroughly, absolutely?

or where there was

one solid case of ONE bureaucracy where the entire cadre of corrupt Comrades had a St Paul Damascus Road spiritual experience and forsook their corrupt ways miraculously?

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Failing that, perhaps you'd candidly disclose what page of the NWO corrupt globalists' propaganda play book you are posting from?

You misunderstand what I am saying.

What I AM saying is this: What you define as the NWO is here, NOW. We are LIVING in the NWO.

This NWO is what is happening now, it is the CURRENT World Order.

A true, real NEW system that gets away from what we are living under now. What YOU are calling the NWO, I am referring to as the Current World Order. CWO.

We need a real NWO to replace the corrupt system we have NOW.

A NWO that eliminates the national level. Eliminates a huge, expensive bureaucratic level of control that concentrates wealth and power in the wrong hands.

The local and regional governments that actually DO things, with no National siphon. None at all.

What you are all calling the NWO is NOW. Kill it. Establish a true NWO, abolish the National governments

reply to post by Leonidas


OH.

OK.

Great wishful thinking.

Ain't gonna happen this side of Armageddon.

AT Armageddon, Christ Himself will lead the charge destroying all the evil doers.

THEN we'll have a thousand years of perfect PEACE ruled by the PRINCE OF PEACE.

NOTHING short of THAT will deal with the CURRENT NWO.

They ESSENTIALLY have

1. all the money and other resources
2. all the positions of influence and raw !POWER!
3. all the media . . . and are preparing to neutralize the net threat
4. all the educational institutions
5. all the economic levers and systems
6. all the food production systems and are planning to outlaw home gardens--so absurd!
7. all the transportation systems
8. all the communications systems and means
9. all the military forces
10. all the sciences
11. all the social forces and are planning to shred the family even more than they already have
12. etc. etc. etc.

Just how . . . would one overthrow all the evil doers have taken 400+ years to carefully construct?

imho, God alone is able.

reply to post by BO XIAN



You are not listening. What you call the NWO is here, NOW.

The REAL NWO is the organization of the population into a few administrative regions with intra-national groups like the EU taking the place of nation-states.

God has nothing to do with it.

Originally posted by Leonidas
reply to post by BO XIAN

 

You are not listening. What you call the NWO is here, NOW.

I'm keenly aware that the NWO folks have been in charge of most things nationally, in Europe etc. for most of 200-400 years. Some say more.

I'm keenly aware that they will REMAIN IN CHARGE with more and more tyrannical !CONTROL! until after the literal Biblical Armageddon.

I don't believe anything but God can alter that scenario and He has indicated that he won't totally alter it.

I do think He will cause the NWO folks LOTS of troubles along the way. I believe HE HAS many unpleasant surprises for them up His much bigger sleeves.

The REAL NWO is the organization of the population into a few administrative regions with intra-national groups like the EU taking the place of nation-states.

imho, NOPE. That's merely a stage of the conspirators' planning toward their ultimate global dictatorship and horrific global tyranny.

They make it SOUND nice. The Georgia Guidestones sound so smooth and almost idyllic.

It will be anything BUT idyllic.

God has nothing to do with it.

Time will tell on that one. imho, NOTHING of substance occurs without His AT LEAST ALLOWING it.

reply to post by Leonidas

So what you are saying is that it is the CurrentWorldOrder. You and I agree, it is not working. A TRULY NWO is needed.

I wouldnt go that far because you appear to support a version of centralisation in another vain.
However where we agree is that you recognise the reality of the situation so many here do not.
I am for decentralisation of power not centralisation.
I think all the ideals of Communalism, Communitarianism, Distributism are worth considering as alternate ways of organising society and economy.
I actually prefer Social Credit over all of them.Its shame most americans cant think of alternatives to capitalism without labeling all alternatives except for right wing libertarianism as socialist.
See here; en.wikipedia.org... or bleedingindebt.com...

It seems to me big arguments on a NWO are:

How to share the power/wealth/resources
The poor are looked after
Mankind's freedom development isnt stifled
How not to disturb peoples current life's
Religion

To be honest I dont know why everyone isnt asked on the fact to see where we stand.


How to share the power/wealth/resources
Possibly vote into community, or independent; then community to possibly region to possible nation so forth until a new world map is written which would hopefully reflect peoples wants.

The poor are looked after
Well this would be up to the leaders of any larger groups such as EU, continuing some of their better programmes

Mankind's freedom & development isnt stifled
Very hard this one, I feel people have the right to try to get what they want but I also like most beleive in laws and rules. Possibly a lot less social rules and open business rules but enforced

How not to disturb peoples current life's
Slow or fast changes, Big or unnoticeable.

Religion
Pass lol
Possibly a unification possibly eradication. NWO and religion go hand in hand it feels like.


Quite close to todays reality though?

Just some thoughts

reply to post by Theprimordialocker


I believe in local determinism. The nation-state is only a few centuries old. It is already unraveling, as seen in Europe. Since the end of WW2, that goal has been worked towards.

Regions know better than countries what they need.

Is the Nation-state a good idea?