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posted on Feb, 4 2011 @ 07:50 AM
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While you demand an answer.. Can you point out where he said they did? Your turning into another Oozy! Get off his back, he was simply saying that Iranian human rights "mold" is not one to emulate! To that I 100% agree!



posted on Feb, 4 2011 @ 07:52 AM
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Oh, because you say so? So your interpretation demands answers to verify your interpretation? Stop it! This thread is not a pissing match about how much you loath Israel and love Iran!

Start another thread deatailing how to have a proper debate about Israel .... While your at it, use Israel and the US as examples... We saw where that rabbit hole leads to!



posted on Feb, 4 2011 @ 08:11 AM
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Hm? Military surounding the Palace? One can hope...



posted on Feb, 4 2011 @ 08:28 AM
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I am sure they are surrounding the palace.... But, not for the reason we are hoping for.. There are surely enough soldiers, that still back the current tyrant. This is where the violence will get catastrophic... Once the protesters get the #'s outside the palace, they will undoubtedly storm the palace... This will lead to a blood bath.



posted on Feb, 4 2011 @ 08:34 AM
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A new chant from the anti gov protesters: "where are the journalists, the national party is here" reference to mubaraks NDP



The pro and anti mubarak crowds are pressed right against each other, face to face, on a street off talaat harb, but noone fighting



Egypt's health minister to Al Arabiya: 915 injuries during Wednesday clashes www.alarabiya.net... #Mubarak #Jan25



Egypt's health minister to Al Arabiya: number of injuries since breakout of protests up to 5000 www.alarabiya.net...




An anti gov protester just tried to unfurl a hamas flag and everyone around him made him put it away #Egypt #Jan25



Reports are that the Army are doing their jobs, moved in to separate the people quarreling. #jan25



bambuser.com... The new Anti Mubarak sign. #jan25


That's big.


More than a million now demonstrating in Alexandria. "We will stay, he will leave!" is the slogan. #Jan25 #egypt via AJE:



Today Alexandria has the biggest crowds yet seen. #Egypt @AJELive



More than one million in tahrir.egypt state Tv says only 3000.



posted on Feb, 4 2011 @ 08:43 AM
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Originally posted by Shenon
reply to post by Vitchilo
 


Hm? Military surounding the Palace? One can hope...

That are pro-Mubarak military.


About 35,000 people have taken to the streets Friday in the Egyptian city of Suez, a spokesman for opposition leader Ayman Nour told CNN.


Sandmonkey tweets: "Isn't there a single Father from the egyptian Coptic church there? They need to be now. #jan25"


Al Arabiya: The Egyptian army received orders to protect foreign journalists

+1

Explosive planted outside Gaza home


Sandmonkey : When this is over, Tahrir square will be the reason tourists will come to Egypt from now on.

+1

CNN's Ivan Watson reports that secret police are just outside the building he's broadcasting from. They're going to try to bring down the media reports again.



2 APCs preventing anyone from getting onto the bridge, so that way to the square is bloacked. Tanks moving around, lots of soldiers on foot, some of whom are wearing helmets.


15 thousand protesters in the city of Rafah in Sinai on the border with Gaza


AlMasryAlYoum_E: Four killed in fights over gas cylinders, many injured in fights over bread #Jan25 #Egypt

It's getting bad out there...


More from Wyre Davies in Alexandria (see 1420 entry): "A number of armed police - uniformed and plain clothes - were seen near the main square and several hotels in the area were told, under no circumstances, to allow in foreigners or journalists. As we approached the square, under the watchful eye of several demonstrators, I saw a secret policeman being dragged away by the crowd, beaten up and bundled into a car - we don't know what happened to him next."


Al Jazeera reporter in Alexandria: 2 big protests just merged. "Hundreds of thousands, possibly millions."



Army special forces are now on the perimeter of the square. Hardcore counter terror teams rather than regular army

Oh boy. Those are most likely pro-Mubarak thug... maybe they're waiting for darkness before striking...



posted on Feb, 4 2011 @ 10:08 AM
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Tank fired from main gun in the air to chase off pro-Mubarak people off the bridges

And in other news- House mysteriously explodes in downtown Cairo...


Alshaheeed JP says tunnels between Gaza & Sinai are now used to send vital food supplies to Sinai not the other way round. #Jan25

Highly unlikely... Unless the situation in Gaza isn't as bad as we're led to believe


On that note- When are the world's nations going to send these protesters some food?! When *Gaza* is the one providing *food* for the protesters, you really know you've hit rock bottom..


Mubarak to ABC: Muslim Brothers will come to power if I leave now

Oh, he knows exactly what buttons to push...


100's of INFRA RED SMALL CAMERAS are given to Tahrir protestors to record any attack at night on Tahrir

Money better spent on supplies, no? Where is this coming from anyway?


People have routed power from the street lights and are charging their cell phones in Tahrir #Egypt #Jan25

And in other news- People mysteriously electrocuted in Tahrir square, protesters are blaming government lightning rays.


ProducerMatthew New: @AlArabiya_Eng: 1 RPG and 1 bomb attacks on 2 different security posts in Nothern Sinai

And so it begins..


Food running out in many areas of Egypt

This was Mubarak's plan all along- To starve out the protesters.


AlArabiya_Eng Egypt police detain 10 men with explosives

And so it continues to begin..


only about 3000 pro-Mubarak protestors out and 2 million anti-Mubarak protestors

One of these numbers must be off, how on earth could 3000 people take on 2 million like they did the past few days?


Finance Minister has announced that $850M will be distributed as compensation for property damage during the protests.

Yeah, right, I can see how the bureaucratic red tape is going to smother the money out of 70% of people who were wronged.



posted on Feb, 4 2011 @ 10:48 AM
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The fact that they never get their own hands dirty doesn't mean they don't send out and fund people to die for their causes.. Definitely doesn't make them peaceful.

It's like coyly asking "What has America ever done to influence Egypt? When has it ever attacked Egypt?".



posted on Feb, 4 2011 @ 04:36 PM
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74 pages on this topic when really only one post would say it all!

Here, let me help you.

There will be no peace in the Middle East or on earth until the Muslims accept Christ and respect Israel and God's Chosen and stop persecuting them.

There, that wasn't so difficult, now was it?



posted on Feb, 4 2011 @ 04:56 PM
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Hahahahahahahaha! LOL, thanks for the laugh. I needed that.

Back to reality.



posted on Feb, 4 2011 @ 04:57 PM
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Bring your zionist propaganda someplace else this is a thread for news not personal opinion!



posted on Feb, 4 2011 @ 05:20 PM
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Originally posted by ZionSteel
74 pages on this topic when really only one post would say it all!
....

In the West Bank, the Palestinian Authority broke up anti-Mubarak protests (protestors numbering in the hundreds) while allowing pro-Mubarak demonstration to continue ( 10 demonstrators watched by 12 policemen).

West Bank demonstrations



posted on Feb, 5 2011 @ 01:56 AM
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This is just breaking on AJE


Unknown attackers blow up North Sinai pipeline that supplies gas to Israel.



oh boy...



posted on Feb, 5 2011 @ 02:02 AM
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Well sorry for the time it took for an update...had things to do...


German SPIEGEL writes that the pro-Mubarak people are poor people hired for 10-15€ a day


hundreds of thousands marching in Tehran in support of Egypt.


Al Jazeera is reporting that their Cairo office has been stormed by "gangs of thugs". The news channel says its office and the equipment inside has been set fire.


Popular actors and singers in the square. Amr Mousa came by for a while, too, and is considering a run for the Presidency. ElBaradei says he will run.


And Mohammad Ibrahim Kamel, a prominent Egyptian businessman who is close to President Mubarak, just told BBC Arabic radio's Akram Shaban that Mr Mubarak will not leave power before the end of his tem, and will not cave in to external pressure from US President Barack Obama or anyone else.


Arrests of 4 former assistants to the ministry of interior, among them the assistant general secretary


State TV now reading protester demands


RT @abdulhaykal: U.S. Senate has passed a resolution calling on #Mubarak to begin power transfer.


cnn ticker : Egyptian Army has taken 18 reporters to safe place


Dominic Waghorn from Sky News tweets: "Sustained gunfire in Cairo north of Tahrir square. Possibly an exchange of gunfire not just warning shots."


Army detains pro-Mubarak protestors outside of Liberation Square


Protesters in Alexandria #Egypt say they won't leave until Mubarak does


In #alexandria teachers, doctors, lawyers, accountants, farmers union all in anti Mubarak demo #egypt @channel4news


RT @TravellerW: Army is not neutral. Idleness when innocent people are getting hurt is a statement. It's taking the side of injustice. #egypt #jan25


A priest & sheikh both initiating religious sermons in harmony at #Tahrir square. Now this is true #unity.


@AlArabiya_Eng: Egypt's ex-trade minister Rashid: I don't want my children or any Egyptian to see me fleeing Egypt


ZenDirtZenDust‎ "10-man council has been formed that's being called the 'wise men' council and is negotiating w/officials in Egypt"


Crowds camping outside the main train station in Alexandria, determined to bring Egypt's second largest city to a standstill. Many more women than in the Cairo protests. Chant: "Army, Army, tell us your stance, because our freedom is in your hands."


RT @davidcnswanson: If Egyptians fail the terrorists win. If nonviolence prevails, the argument for violence will die. #jan25 #egypt


Egypt: ICRC emergency medical assistance begins to arrive


Al Jazeera: Protesters call for Million Egyptian March on Sunday, Tuesday & Friday.


Spiegel writes that AJA said that sources in Montenegro said that Mubaraks son is preparing the arrival of his father there.

More rumors saying he'll step down tomorrow.

clashes on the edge of the square. Army firing shots into the air


Al Jazeera: Bahrainis & Egyptians protest in front of Egyptian embassy in Bahrain in support of those in Meydan Tahrir


Al Arabiya: the EU freezes bank accounts of 46 relatives of Tunisia's former dictator Ben Ali.


RT @aslanmedia: #EGYPT: Armed forces have tightened security around #Mubarak's presidential palace as protests continue. #jan25


El Baradei: I hope that there will be a statement by the govt within two hours. I hope the regime understands: it's Mubarak Vs. the People


Reporters have complained that Obama has evaded them all week so he doesn't have to talk about his handling of Egypt's political crisis. On Wednesday, press secretary Robert Gibbs dismissed their concerns by saying, "I think you'll get a chance likely to talk to the president later in the week when Prime Minister Harper is here."

But White House spokesman Tommy Vietor says Obama and Stephen Harper plan to call on just one reporter each.

Hahahahaha!


Two correspondents for Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty have been detained in Cairo.


mmofw‎ Fr24 reporter says he saw a great number of blind-folded european journalists and civilians in the Military police


broadcastingb‎ RT @NevMab: Amnesty say over 30 Human rights workers being detained at Camp 75 on outskirts of Cairo by military police.


Loads of people intending on sleeping in Tahrir tonight. Learnt from the mistake of leaving on Tuesday which made thugs' job easier.


BillyWerner: RT @accidentaltheo: Imagine if 15,000,000 Americans were protesting. Or 4,000,000 Brits. These are the proportional numbers for #Egypt protests today.


Egyptian cleric Qardawi calls far the people to stay in Tahrir- he says it is their duty.


"Jan25 Voices Jan25voices LPC: Multiple sources: rumors circulated among the middle-class of invasion by Israel and via Sinai.Say 'encouraged by ElMehwar' TV #Egypt 2 minutes ago via web "

I bet spread by pro-Mubarak thugs.

DominicWaghorn: Fighting six blocks north of bus station. Some ambulance activity. Not as intense as yday


diceylee808‎ RT @nolanjazeera: Dozens of police trucks in side streets around Pres Palace. Yes thats right police! Haven't seen them in a while


makibaka‎ Egyptians chanting today: "Shedi Halik Ya Balad, El Houria Betwolad!" (Hang in there my country)


Mubarak family fortune approx 70billion $


CNN : difficult to get food and medical supplies through


CNN : Heavy gunfire about a half a mile away since about an hour. Pro Mubarak guys trying to come in and army shooting in the air to keep them back.


Egyptian PM says protestors will not be made to leave the square


State-run newspaper Al-Ahram says an Egyptian reporter shot during clashes earlier this week has died of his wounds, the first reported journalist death in 11 days of turmoil surrounding Egypt's wave of anti-government protests.


ArabVoicesSpeak CNN now: US Embassy in Cairo vans were stolen and van hitting people cant be driven by American

Yeah sure.

Aleo48: RT @HerMaeness: 3:15 AM. Large number of people still camping out at #Tahrir Square. You can still hear music, chanting, chatter & LOTS of snoring
#Jan25


MarshieBIC: RT @jamesmb: When you go to your safe warm bed tonight, remember that thousands are sleeping in freezing Tahrir Sq tonight so they can be free. #jan25

+1

Saudi Arabia, Syria, Jordan... next to fall?
Report: Saboteurs attack Egypt-Israel gas pipeline
One brief exchange was tantalising though. Mr Gibbs was asked if there had been an assassination attempt against Vice-President Omar Suleiman in the last few days. Looking rattled, he said he wasn't going to get into that. Other sources are equally reticent as to any detail but certainly suggest something happened. If it is true, the big question would be who would be behind it this attempt.
Chilling account from the New York Times: This is what people here are revolting against



posted on Feb, 5 2011 @ 02:02 AM
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Originally posted by Hithe Merinos
This is just breaking on AJE


Unknown attackers blow up North Sinai pipeline that supplies gas to Israel.



oh boy...


That mean no BBQ's tonight in Israel??
Unlike the Palistinians who have unlimeted power??

Pardon me if the news doesn't upset me much..



posted on Feb, 5 2011 @ 02:31 AM
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And here's a supposed pic of the explosion... Here



Crazy.



iran - kahameni says events in tunisia and egypt are an islamic awakening

No it ain't.

acarvin: RT @norashalaby: 70 objects from the Egyptian Museum have been broken, but nothing stolen. over 200 stolen from the Qantarra magazine #Jan25


@sandmonkey on CNN using real name telling of his experience! Wow! #Egypt #Jan25

That's courage!

France rocked by news of aid to Tunisia and Egypt : France trained Egyptian police officers in crowd control and sent tear gas to Tunis. And its foreign minister vacationed in Tunisia after the uprising, using the jet of a man linked to the ousted president.


A senior Obama administration official confirmed that the attack happened soon after Suleiman was appointed, on Jan. 29. The official described it as an organized attack on Suleiman's motorcade.


AJELive Amnesty International says two staffers, detained since Thursday, are free


Breaking: head of AlJazeera office in Cairo Abdel Fatah Fayed arrested together with journalist Ahmed Mahmoud. #jan25


RT @sdorra: On the bright side, people no longer think we travel on camels and live in pyramids. #Egypt #Jan25

You don't?


LaraABCNews Morning prayer in Tahrir Square, after a night of chanting and rallies. Protesters are digging in their heels


distorria: RT @Sandmonkey: If u count up all the numbers, today there are about 4 million protesters in Egypt. The numbers are not decreasing. #jan25


RT @7usfahmy: from now on,our parents will not tell us they were the only ones who witnessed sacrifices for our future. #jan25 #egypt #tahrir

+1

#Egypt Greek prime minister Giorgos Papandreou to meet with Mubarak with message from EU. #jan25


Egypt Finance Minister Radwan sorry for any "harsh treatment" of journalists or protestors at the hands of government forces

Yeah right.

RT @newsintheuk: BBC News: UK lifts Tunisia travel warning

Already?

RT @AlyaaGad: London, Paris, Madrid,Dubai, Washington, New York, Frankfurt are where Mubarak& his sons own homes


RT @ioerror: Mubarak is going to go. Behind closed doors his government is already taking steps to ensure that his regime is prosecuted. #egypt #jan25


#Altlanta: #Egyptian solidarity demonstration in front of CNNHQ on Sat. Feb. 05 12:00pm. #Egypt #Jan25 #Mubarak


AJELive Our reporter says #Tahrir is quiet so far as #Egypt is waking up to a new day


andersoncooper Looks like trains are moving again in cairo

+1

MostafaMGaafar When you come to think about it, #egypt has never chose its ruler in 7000 years. I'd say it's about time

+1

weddady Salah Abdelmaksou deputy chairman of press union on Aljaz:"the regime tried to use 'creative' chaos to undermine the uprising


LaraABCNews the crowds are building, like every morning...there's a tempo to Tahrir Square, a staunch core hold down the night


RT @icrcnews: ICRC aircraft carrying first-aid supplies to treat 2,000 people has landed at Cairo airport

+1

AJE Our reporter says #Tahrir Square seems to be "more tense" now with troops in helmets apparently getting ready


REPORT: CBS News crew detained in, then kicked out of #Egypt #Tahrir #jan25


RT @hocinedim: Things are accelerating in #Egypt. Explosion in Arish, army trying to take down barricades, and tweeps being targeted by police


AymanM We're hearing unconfirmed reports that they're arresting people tweeting as well as anyone with a foreign passpo


AJE just reported it supplies 1/3 of Israel's gas supplies


ProducerMatthew Al Arabiya Arabic: Two gas power plants in Sinai have been shut off following the pipeline explosion, a source says.


: Reuters: Israel imports 40 percent of its natural gas from Egypt, in a deal built on their 1979 peace accord.



And according to Al-Jazzera, it supplies 1/3 of the Israeli gas... and according to Reuters, 40%... so it's pretty serious.



posted on Feb, 5 2011 @ 03:25 AM
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Originally posted by Vitchilo
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And here's a supposed pic of the explosion... Here



Crazy.



iran - kahameni says events in tunisia and egypt are an islamic awakening

No it ain't.

acarvin: RT @norashalaby: 70 objects from the Egyptian Museum have been broken, but nothing stolen. over 200 stolen from the Qantarra magazine #Jan25


@sandmonkey on CNN using real name telling of his experience! Wow! #Egypt #Jan25

That's courage!

France rocked by news of aid to Tunisia and Egypt : France trained Egyptian police officers in crowd control and sent tear gas to Tunis. And its foreign minister vacationed in Tunisia after the uprising, using the jet of a man linked to the ousted president.


A senior Obama administration official confirmed that the attack happened soon after Suleiman was appointed, on Jan. 29. The official described it as an organized attack on Suleiman's motorcade.


AJELive Amnesty International says two staffers, detained since Thursday, are free


Breaking: head of AlJazeera office in Cairo Abdel Fatah Fayed arrested together with journalist Ahmed Mahmoud. #jan25


RT @sdorra: On the bright side, people no longer think we travel on camels and live in pyramids. #Egypt #Jan25

You don't?


LaraABCNews Morning prayer in Tahrir Square, after a night of chanting and rallies. Protesters are digging in their heels


distorria: RT @Sandmonkey: If u count up all the numbers, today there are about 4 million protesters in Egypt. The numbers are not decreasing. #jan25


RT @7usfahmy: from now on,our parents will not tell us they were the only ones who witnessed sacrifices for our future. #jan25 #egypt #tahrir

+1

#Egypt Greek prime minister Giorgos Papandreou to meet with Mubarak with message from EU. #jan25


Egypt Finance Minister Radwan sorry for any "harsh treatment" of journalists or protestors at the hands of government forces

Yeah right.

RT @newsintheuk: BBC News: UK lifts Tunisia travel warning

Already?

RT @AlyaaGad: London, Paris, Madrid,Dubai, Washington, New York, Frankfurt are where Mubarak& his sons own homes


RT @ioerror: Mubarak is going to go. Behind closed doors his government is already taking steps to ensure that his regime is prosecuted. #egypt #jan25


#Altlanta: #Egyptian solidarity demonstration in front of CNNHQ on Sat. Feb. 05 12:00pm. #Egypt #Jan25 #Mubarak


AJELive Our reporter says #Tahrir is quiet so far as #Egypt is waking up to a new day


andersoncooper Looks like trains are moving again in cairo

+1

MostafaMGaafar When you come to think about it, #egypt has never chose its ruler in 7000 years. I'd say it's about time

+1

weddady Salah Abdelmaksou deputy chairman of press union on Aljaz:"the regime tried to use 'creative' chaos to undermine the uprising


LaraABCNews the crowds are building, like every morning...there's a tempo to Tahrir Square, a staunch core hold down the night


RT @icrcnews: ICRC aircraft carrying first-aid supplies to treat 2,000 people has landed at Cairo airport

+1

AJE Our reporter says #Tahrir Square seems to be "more tense" now with troops in helmets apparently getting ready


REPORT: CBS News crew detained in, then kicked out of #Egypt #Tahrir #jan25


RT @hocinedim: Things are accelerating in #Egypt. Explosion in Arish, army trying to take down barricades, and tweeps being targeted by police


AymanM We're hearing unconfirmed reports that they're arresting people tweeting as well as anyone with a foreign passpo


AJE just reported it supplies 1/3 of Israel's gas supplies


ProducerMatthew Al Arabiya Arabic: Two gas power plants in Sinai have been shut off following the pipeline explosion, a source says.


: Reuters: Israel imports 40 percent of its natural gas from Egypt, in a deal built on their 1979 peace accord.



And according to Al-Jazzera, it supplies 1/3 of the Israeli gas... and according to Reuters, 40%... so it's pretty serious.
Vitchilo,I told all of you that the regime would attack the infrastructure as they leave power.They don't want any kind of new government to have anything.The Murbarak's have decided to leave the nation in ruins.



posted on Feb, 5 2011 @ 03:45 AM
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Incredible thread and brilliant work Vitchilo!
So comprehensive and informative!
Thank you for you tireless work here.



posted on Feb, 5 2011 @ 04:47 AM
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Originally posted by ZionSteel
74 pages on this topic when really only one post would say it all!

Here, let me help you.

There will be no peace in the Middle East or on earth until the Muslims accept Christ and respect Israel and God's Chosen and stop persecuting them.

There, that wasn't so difficult, now was it?


You could have saved yourself a lot of typing. After all, a picture says more than a thousand words. So, here's your post, in picture-ese:

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/da5bf66735ca.jpg[/atsimg]



posted on Feb, 5 2011 @ 06:02 AM
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There are 8 million people in Cairo proper, 17 million in the immediate suburbs and outlying areas. 80 million in Egypt.

Here is Tahrir Sqaure at peak on Tuesday during the March of Millions....




Here is Michigan Stadium, during a football game, capacity 109,000...




Trying to remain objective, but I dont think there were was anywhere near a million people in the sqaure. Pay close attention to the density of people in the Michigan stadium shot, and the loose density at Tahrir.

I do not deny that there is a revolution taking place, and that Egypt is changed forever. I cannot deny that there is an agenda behind this, albeit an ancient one.

If anyone can find an aerial shot or a different angle that better depicts the crowd at the square I am prepared to reverse my position.



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