"Psychic" Training.

Hello everyone,

This is my first thread.

I consider myself a very deeply spiritual person. I spend most of my time studying and practicing things that are at least slightly relevant to my personal philosophies however, I do not subscribe to any 'paradigm' even in the broadest sense.

I do believe in a form of Collective Consciousness and also agree with most of what Thomas Campbell states in "My Big Theory of Everything" as far as his thoughts on entropy and how as the entropy of a given idea or reality is reduced it becomes manifest.

I am fascinated with parapsychology and the attributes that are studied within it. I also believe that while some people may have 'gifts' in certain fields, anyone can train to acquire these abilities.

Manifesting reality is a whole other topic, what I would like to talk about are the metaphysical abilities that show immediate effects: telekinesis, psychokinesis, pyrokinesis, reiki, psy-pinging and other things of the like.

Does anyone else train in these skills? If so, what are your approaches? What specific skills do you train for and what types of techniques do you employ?

I draw my influences from many resources but, in my studies, I have found that The Masters of Eastern Inner Martial Arts tend to be able to demonstrate these abilities more than 'anyone else'.

This does also tie in with my over-all personal philosophy and the observation that these Eastern Masters are attempting to and frequently achieving the attainment that I believe that all 'religions' and esoteric paths are after. I believe that these abilities can be somewhat of a side-effect of a level of understanding.

Even if you arent spiritual though, you can achieve 'spooky effects'.
What are you all trying to do out there, how are you doing it and what have you done?

I will go in to my own experiences later.

reply to post by Brahmanite


Hey there,

I am a student of Tai Chi, and thus can relate to some of what you say. My philoposphy towards all of this is quite simple, yet in depth:
The world is made of Chi, or what we call energy. Through collective consciousness, our minds can control our own chi; but it doesnt stop there. If we are all just chi, what stops ourselves from controlling other things that are just purely chi? Nothing.
We can move things, we can manipulate things. We are just breaching into these realms with our sciences and quantum mechanics, so soon the overused "if i can't proove it with science it doesnt exist" line will be inexistant.

No one is greater than you, and no one is better. We are are all equal. These "Eastern Masters" simply devote their lives to learning these things inwhich we all have the power to use.
If you have the will to achieve, then you shall.

Also emotions can effect our psi too. If someone is angry or frustrated, they may find themselves accidently performing amazing things. This is why emotions are so valuable; when controlled correctly they can be put to great use; a tool of healing, or a tool of destruction. Whatever floats your boat really, but a balance of the two is nice.

I hope that helping, i will elaborate more if you wish.

Namaste.

I completely agree with everything you said Jacob.

In 08 I decided it was time to take up meditating. Been doing it since. I recently started dowsing. (using a pendulum) So far its a amazing way to excerise your third eye if you want to call it that. I did some travelling in 09 and went to cambodia where I saw a entity in meditation, and gave me a pretty bad vision. Barmitzfa, suicide bombers yeah you get the picture. I dont believe it was a premenition, just something to fill my head.

After that Ive wanted to take up scrying, still trying to get the will to do it. I tried to bend a spoon in meditation, and when I opened my eyes, it was bent. That was my first time trying it, and I managed to do it. I believe meditation and imagination play a extremly large role in some of these things that are deemed impossible.

Since all this stuff has come rather quickly, I want to persue the rest of dowsing, and then scrying. Telekinesis is on the list but from what ive heard is that its not practical unless you are doing chi.

Just my 2 cents, what are your thoughts?

I couldn't agree with you more, Jacob. I also practice 'chi manipulation but more on the Qigong and Neikung side. I have been practicing Qigong for a little while now and am just beginning to learn more about Neikung. Since practicing these techniques and actively doing consciousness work and astral projection I do notice more results.

Certain techniques of chi cultivation seem to work better for me than others, but its not impossible for me to achieve effects without cultivating any chi, this is why I do certainly feel that non-believers of chi can achieve effects as well, even though I am definitely a believer in chi.

I dont think it is necessary to cultivate chi for this stuff but I do think that technique is crucial. Intent alone may be enough to gather the energy required but, in my experience, intent alone will not move an object or effect a flame or truly transmit your energy to something.

I do many experiments. I practice new ideas and techniques and test their effectiveness using a psi-wheel in a controlled environment. I do not hold the typical philosophy that most psi-wheel practitioners hold.

Most people will say that it is the mind ALONE moving the wheel. I differ on this. First of all, most people hold their hands cupped very closely around the wheel for a very long time and then it starts to move, they say that it may take time to start working. Whenever you hold your hands in that position, around something for so long, a convection current does form and begins to move the wheel, this is demonstrated very easily.

I know from experience that the mind has the ability to effect things physically but, I also suggest that I can move the wheel without touching it, using my "chi". I have learned that we have a field of energy (not the same as Aura) that radiates from us. This energy can grow and can also be depleted. I have also learned that this energy comes with a very distinct physical feeling. When you have more 'energy' you have more of this feeling, when you are channeling this energy you should also be having a 'feeling'.

I have learned that these skills are much like any sport or other skill. Cultivating Chi can only get us so far, where we really start to learn is in practicing the act. The more you dowse the better and more effective you become, the more you meditate, the deeper you can get.

Before getting in to specific techniques I should mention the things I try to practice the most. I also really enjoy working with a pendulum, Scorps. I also work with fire manipulation, transmitting energy, lots of psychokinesis, Psi-pinging and premonition. Lately most of my focus in practice has of course been always inner martial arts but the skills I am working on mainly are psychokinesis and pendulum work.

My biggest hobby is investigation, an incredibly deep hole that I have been digging around in for a while now is the one that starts with John Chang. I have found a few leads that most people have not been able to and it has been interesting to say the least.

Something special and very real
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[edit on 17-1-2010 by Brahmanite]

Originally posted by Brahmanite
Hello everyone,

This is my first thread.

I consider myself a very deeply spiritual person. I spend most of my time studying and practicing things that are at least slightly relevant to my personal philosophies however, I do not subscribe to any 'paradigm' even in the broadest sense.

I do believe in a form of Collective Consciousness and also agree with most of what Thomas Campbell states in "My Big Theory of Everything" as far as his thoughts on entropy and how as the entropy of a given idea or reality is reduced it becomes manifest.

I am fascinated with parapsychology and the attributes that are studied within it. I also believe that while some people may have 'gifts' in certain fields, anyone can train to acquire these abilities.

Manifesting reality is a whole other topic, what I would like to talk about are the metaphysical abilities that show immediate effects: telekinesis, psychokinesis, pyrokinesis, reiki, psy-pinging and other things of the like.

Does anyone else train in these skills? If so, what are your approaches? What specific skills do you train for and what types of techniques do you employ?

I draw my influences from many resources but, in my studies, I have found that The Masters of Eastern Inner Martial Arts tend to be able to demonstrate these abilities more than 'anyone else'.

This does also tie in with my over-all personal philosophy and the observation that these Eastern Masters are attempting to and frequently achieving the attainment that I believe that all 'religions' and esoteric paths are after. I believe that these abilities can be somewhat of a side-effect of a level of understanding.

Even if you arent spiritual though, you can achieve 'spooky effects'.
What are you all trying to do out there, how are you doing it and what have you done?

I will go in to my own experiences later.

the way cia and special warfare does it it is near murder to open your psychic senses.. they also can put your familly in jeapardy to kill them to again awaiken you psi sences then any you have they sell with RAMTHA a CIA mind kontrol project. Real and true I am going to die of MRSA so I have nothing left to loose... william is a cia guy who knows alot about it and i guees hhis name soon?

This all seems very interesting!

Does anyone have any pointers where to start with learning about this kind of stuff? As it is something that I would very much like to get into!


Thanks,


Resentedhalo08.

reply to post by Brahmanite


Ah, why didn't you say so!
That makes it alot easier. Now you might be familiar with a few postures of Qiquong then, which i can use to explain the two ways in which chi manipulation can happen with.
Basically, i see two ways in which you can use psi and more energy: natural ways, and ways of intent.
Intent is pretty obvious; through the power of your mind. I've had days where i've felt very spiritual and i can literally command the chi to move through my body/meridians and bring it to my hands to do what i wish with it. Unfortunately, i cant do this everyday.
The second way, is through the old school ways of Tai Chi, Qiquong etc. My favourite example is the "Son Posture" in Qiquong. The way you position your body, your energy naturally flows to you hands. This obviously isn't that useful if you wish to be practical with your energy but i use it as an example to proove it is there. Although, i've had some pretty amazing chi balls from the "Son posture" before.

I find that to move objects, or to do what he did in that video, you need an understanding of chemistry/physics. I imagine using my energy to move to particles away, or the change the molecular structure of something. Like a commenter in that video said, you need to move the particles out of the way with your mind, or just weaken the bonds between the particles so that not as much force is needed in the chop stick. Now, this gives us so many different options as what to do. In the video, you can see him using one finger; almost as if he is channeling his energy to one point to then flow through the chopstick. This could be him "charging" the chopstick with his energy so that it requires less strength.
There are so many ways of doing it.

What you are talking about is your bodies frequency or vibrations. Everyone has a different frequency, and many things can raise it. I personally recommend whale music and songs, as they raise your frequency tremendously. But obviously, things can lower your vibrations too. This is why i am a vegetarian as i believe that meat lowers your vibrations.
Anyway, the higher your vibrations the better.
Different people have distinct frequencies too, and you may begin to feel peoples energy and recognise it from others.

Namaste.

ResentedHalo, this can be a long and intense path whose questions cannot be answered very easily. This truly is very deeply connected to 'the mysteries of the universe' that the Mystery Schools of lore have always studied.

You could take the path of discovery through following 'the mysteries' or, as stated in an earlier post, you can take the purely practical path of just practicing. John Chang, after all, does not follow any philosophical paradigm. He does have a certain understanding of the universe but he follows no 'path' and is only trained in the 'practical' side. I must say though, that for a full understanding of the 'practical' path you will have to dip in to the philosophical side a little bit, at least the history.

I say this because the information that I provide to you will be dictated by the 'side' that you show interest in.

Jacob, I agree about needing an understanding of physics to truly understand metaphysics. Actually, part of my personal philosophy is based on my understanding of quantum physics. I believe that with the right understanding of Quantum Physics we will be able to truly understand the mind. I feel that with the right understanding of Quantum Physics one may be able to achieve very profound results, with just the mind.

Frequencies. I am also VERY interested in frequencies. From brain entrainment to Cymatics and harmonic resonance, it all fascinates me.
I fool around with all that frequency stuff quite a bit, on all levels. In the last week actually, I have begun gathering materials for a much better, more advanced Cymatics setup.

All of that aside though, back to the 'psychic' stuff. I must also, I guess, give a disclaimer. I am not exactly going to be 'up front' right away. I have a deep respect and fascination with the tradition of mystery and the level of attainment achieved when one must search, solve and discover on their own. Having said that, I am definitely excited to talk about it and feel things out as they go.

Jacob, do you practice with a psi-wheel or something similar?

Does anyone actively practice skills like this? What sort of progress have you made? The 'mental' sort of psychic activities seem to come as they will. As I said, I have been mainly focusing on experimenting with different techniques of gathering and projecting energy that I have gathered from a bazillion resources. I dont just experiment with the way it makes me feel, I focus more on seeing what kind of effects I can create with other things.

I just discovered the 'Media' side of ATS and am going to look in to posting some videos of my exploits. I do not want to really put it all out there and thats why I havent put anything on Youtube but, I would like to share and hopefully collaborate with some people on techniques, discoveries, progressions and even just thoughts about their personal experiences in these fields.

I have been studying this for some time now but certainly still consider myself a beginner with an infinite amount to learn. John Chang's martial path of Mo Pai requires a gathering of Chi in the Dantien that even the 'brightest' students generally require a bare minimum of a year to gather enough to advance past level 1. Level 1 is the gathering of this Chi in your Dantien.

So, does anyone else fool around with a psi wheel, psi-pinging or flames or any of that type of stuff. Dowsing is more receiving energy, channeling it. I am very interested in the 'receiving' type skills, but I really wanna talk about sending it, permeating it.

Sorry if this was too long, I am very excited about this.

reply to post by zeuseadam

the way cia and special warfare does it it is near murder to open your psychic senses.. they also can put your familly in jeapardy to kill them to again awaiken you psi sences then any you have they sell with RAMTHA a CIA mind kontrol project. Real and true I am going to die of MRSA so I have nothing left to loose... william is a cia guy who knows alot about it and i guees hhis name soon?

As if they will ever stop the number of people waking up, and part of what this means is pushing all limits on consciousness and throwing all the toggle switches, which thankfully isn't complicated. We can picture those psi switches, all the biology we are wired as perceiving systems according to Ingo Swann, we can see that as light switches, and turn them on. We can state it too. Intend it.

This is the movmement, the growth, awakening and rewiring of the brain from left into right to twist and break the matrix and develop to our full potential.

And nothing will ever stop this.

[edit on 17-1-2010 by Unity_99]

There are many types of psi, but basically a lot of guys are drawn to telekinsis, which is good and we're going to be learning tai chi as a family when we move and have more space. I have been practicing psi balls a bit.

But many are natural communicators and developing our telepathy skills are essential for the upgrade of the human race, and we are naturally telepathic as well.

The first things we need to do is work on raising consciousness and anything that leads into our right hemisphere and busts matrix. Binaurals, hemisync, isotones are excellent and can be found on youtube. Along with the sounds of dolphins and whales. In fact, dolphins and whales will raise your frequencies higher than any other thing on this planet.

I listen for hours a day at times, on my m3p player, while doing chores, and meditations, and on the computer.

Setting intentions and visualizing, manifesting programs us. We are co-creators, the higher our frequency the faster we manifest things. Words have frequencies too, and they code. This is a 3d hollogram matrix and its coded, we are coded, words code.

"I will awaken
I will spread my wings of love and awareness, with memories of who I truly am, and why I have come to this planet.
It is my will and will of the Creator
I fear no evil for I am the light and love of the Creator
I affirm this with my heart and soul
for light gives me strength and I will do what is right, on task, on mission, for love and freedom's win.



I am emerging now into my cosmic self, my true self, with all of my memories and skills. My true self will no longer be silenced. It is so.



I am the love of the Creator, I am unmatched in what I can do."

www.youtube.com.../u/14/4jL7UQikEIo
Morning mayans frequency course, and this link is on her channel. You could subscribe and look for her frequency lesson videos. Because we're here to make a difference and recover our skills as well.

We need to push the limits on developing psi, meditation and manifesting, consciosness, push the limits on consciousness, and search for all the diamonds, the things that matter the most, not the material things.


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Part Two:

Excercises:

1) Puts a piece of apple outside and when insects gather, connect to their energy, reach into their energy. And send peace, love and light, you can send a greeting, words, or pictures, practice. I had a hornet buzz my face in a strange way, trying to line up to my eyes to look in as if to see what this crazy human was up to.

2) Instead of using a jar to rescue a hornet or dragon fly trapped in the house, open the door, connect into their energy, and send them peace and love and send them images of flying out. This took 3 or 4 mintures for me to do with a dragon fly. He flew from the corner of the room, to line up with me at the door. Then he was confused for a minute, and kept turning around backwards. Finally, he lined up waited 30 seconds and flew out straignt almost brushing my cheek. I was very happy!

3) Picture, in your minds eye, looking into a loved ones, or friends eyes to their soul. Feel their energy, and send love and peace. Tell them, they're lost in their role here, but theyre realing the family of light, and a cosmic citizen and talk to them.

They will soon be vibing on you strongly. You can do this with images and words.


You can also send healing to people, on line, or distance. You can picture vividly standing in the room with them, holding light over the room and cleansing the negative, and bubbling them into a shield, then floodign them with blue healing energy and pink unity, love energy, and golden light, just flooding this through them. When you become good, if its a friend you can picture blowing on their neck or hugging them, putting your hands on their head.

This is the most important work one can do.

Along with Jacobnh's telekinsis and tai chi, which I am going to also start to learn soon.

And you can meditate and connect to nature. Try to reach for the sun's energy the rays, the trees, animals, insects, mother earth. You will be surprised.


To push insight, you look at videos, of famous people, perhaps in ufology or various fields, and you really look with mind and or heart, to reach into their field and see who they are in source. Are they human? Zetan? Annanuki? Feline? Practice. Reach and practice using insight. Practice insight and energy recognition on peope, and on videos with ufos, places, stonehedge, bosnian pyramids. Meditate on them.

Thank you very much for your insight Unity. I especially appreciate the techniques focusing on influencing insects. I have just begun to work with attempting to influence insects, I have found that it is certainly an effective practice.

I think that tai' chi and qigong are very important but I would suggest a study of Neikung as well. Tai' chi and qigong are essentially the practices of cultivating or gathering chi. Neikung is the practice of projecting or using it.

I also think that very deep, actual meditation and astral projection are key to developing and becoming familiar with your energy body. If one is able to obtain these feats you will surely, eventually reap excellent results.

Many people on Youtube complain to people that post videos of the psi wheel that do not demonstrate any kind of directional control. I hope to be posting some videos for you all very soon that will demonstrate that directional control is completely possible....

Unity_99, when you are practicing sending your intentions to insects or whenever you are doing stuff like this, are you physically doing anything with yourself or is it all intention that you are working with?

reply to post by Brahmanite


Well, since childhood I've been somewhat psi, and and experiencer since at least 4. There have been many times where living as solitary as possible and avoiding dramas is what I seek the most. Energy recognition, energy forming postcard pictures in my experiences or when viewing a craft, sensing the energy of everything, its akin to the remote sensing or viewing as well. Its all a grid and really its like catching a wave. Its instaneous for me often. I wont share some of the experieces, but I've had psi moments of sensing energy and instantly being pulled, trying not to, leading to flashes in the sky and monitoring because they picked up my energy.

With and insect or a person, its nothing I do with my body, its my mind and its reaching into the energy field of the other being, connecting to them, being them, sort of.

Intentions and visualizations speed up and assist enormously practice, much like athletes who visualize perfect performances do better. Its because we are co-creators


I will look forward to your videos when you post them.

Sorry about taking so long to respond, I encountered a tooth problem and just had my anniversary as well. I have also been working on some videos, just getting the footage now though.

I have just recently realized that I have always been picking up on this stuff since I was a kid as well. I think growing up, I always took the things I experienced mentally for granted. Empathy for example, at first I assumed that I was picking up on things that were noticed or 'felt' by everyone else too. Later, as I got a little older, I thought that I just had a natural understanding of how to read people. Only a few years ago did I realize, or more accurately; acknowledge that I had Empathetic capabilities and a natural connection with emotions.

Empathy is the most prominent 'ability' that I can relate to as a child. I do recognize other frequent experiences throughout my life but that would certainly be the most prominent ability that I have always had.

The point of this whole thread though has been about learning and developing those skills. We dont have to be born with them, they can all be developed.

Unity, when I asked earlier if you 'did anything with your body', I guess it could have been a bit vague. What I was referring to was if you do any breathing techniques or maintain any special stance or if you grunt or hold your hand in a special way or what.

This is what I have been experimenting with. What breathing techniques and body positions and visualizations, etc.,etc. work the best for which outcomes? What can I do before, during and after 'practice' that may increase my development and outcome?

I have found that intent alone is not nearly enough for me to achieve results. Sure, when working with a psi wheel for an extended period, I might make a 'connection' but when I utilize different techniques, the results become much more substantial. This even goes for when I am simply working with the future and my own intent.

I will write more on specific techniques next time.