The mental in fundaMENTAList

Originally posted by The Blind Eye
The euphoric feeling/experience you are having, is no different then falling in-love with someone. Since the idea/object/person you are in-love with will always stay the same and never change, you can maintain this feeling of euphoria as long as you maintain the imaginary perfect relationship in your head, by opening the bible every chance you get. Like a drug, keep your intake regular and you can maintain the highin pursuing the the truth in our sober reality.

Okay, so apparently, without me even looking/searching for Love, being completely content with how my life was at the time, had just randomly fallen in Love with someone, someone you think is part of a fairy tale, while at the same also believing in this fairy tale. Tell me how this makes any sense at all. according to Science >>> www.youramazingbrain.org... I just googled this so I don't know how credible this is.

Please help me understand how this works.

Originally posted by The Blind Eye
If there is a god... s/he is a lazy twisted hypocritical judgmental prick. The idea of god that i don't like, is that religion shuts people's critical thinking skills off... as a result we had bush & company for two terms and now palin waiting in the wings for another run. This is the type of leadership that has lead us in all the wrong directions.

You assessment of god is very cherry picked because your mind is clouded with love... and therefore are more interested in maintaining your high then in pursuing the the truth in our sober reality.

This is not true of my God at all. Lets think for a second, something you seem to think I can't do, if God intervened in every single persons life to make their life just the way they wanted it, what kind of God is that? By seeing how bad things can be with out God, once he is revealed to you, you truly understand how much Love he has for everyone. Giving us free will is a prime example of his love. What kind of God would prevent us from making our own decisions? What kind of God would force us to believe in him if we chose not to? My God is full of Love. He knew that we would never have a chance in heaven without first sacrificing his only son for us, to wash away all our sins. If there was a God, are you just too afraid to be held responsible of your sins? If there was a God, and you put your faith in him, he would truly reveal himself to you in ways you couldn't imagine. If there was a God, is it really worth not taking a chance at believing in order to spend an eternity in piece? Lets just say in the end, you were right all along, and there was no God, did you really do any harm by giving it a chance?

Originally posted by 100Grand

Please help me understand how this/love works.

Your article gives light to the chemistry and biology behind our drive to reproduce... but on the surface some simple psychology can explain with the proverbial 'love is blind'. I would even go as far to say that most, if not all people are drawn to love stories... whether they be in a song, movie or romance novel. We all want to feel special to someone, that someone loves us unconditionally. Since this is very hard to find in the real world we make up stories to satisfy this fundamental craving. When in-love you see the object of your affection as perfect and all flaws melt away... and everything they say is golden.

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Originally posted by 100Grand

...Giving us free will is a prime example of his love. What kind of God would prevent us from making our own decisions? What kind of God would force us to believe in him if we chose not to? My God is full of Love.

He sends you to hell if you don't believe in him? Sure... he's full of love. lol

He knew that we would never have a chance in heaven without first sacrificing his only son for us, to wash away all our sins.

Noting the trinity; why would god need to sacrifice himself to himself to allow him to change a rule, that he made himself?

If there was a God, are you just too afraid to be held responsible of your sins?

My sins are small enough that i can live with them. I'm not afraid of any repercussions, i take full responsibility for all the 'bad' things i did/do, i don't need anyone to forgive me, for i have already forgiven myself.

If there was a God, and you put your faith in him, he would truly reveal himself to you in ways you couldn't imagine. If there was a God, is it really worth not taking a chance at believing in order to spend an eternity in piece? Lets just say in the end, you were right all along, and there was no God, did you really do any harm by giving it a chance?

What are you... a sales man... a drug dealer? lol I am well aware of delusional effects of the drug you are pushing. I have taken it one too many times and has repeatedly misguided me in ways that i regret to this very day.

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Originally posted by 100Grand
Lets just say in the end, you were right all along, and there was no God, did you really do any harm by giving it a chance?

Ask the few surviors of the Jim Jones cult.

I'm not saying religion can't be pursued healthily...in fact I'm religious myself. I just find this particular argument a bit weak.

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That wasn't my argument, did you just tune in to THAT post?
My argument deals with Bible Prophecy.
J.R. Church - prophecyinthenews.com
Hal Lindsey - hallindsey.com
Dr. Jack Van Impe jvim.com

Among these three people, thousands and thousand of hours have been spent studying the Bible, the prophecies it tells, and current events that full fill the words of Bible. One thing the Bible explains, is that those who don't believe that the only way to salvation is through Jesus, by dying on the cross and washing away our sins, will not understand the prophetic words. Sounds a bit sketchy I know, but my God is no lair.

One example:

Revelation 13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
Revelation 13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
Revelation 13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six. (666)

If you do some research, you will find that the Government is planning to microchip the entire population of the world by 2017. This "rfid chip" will be implanted in the right hand, and if someone is missing their right hand, their forehead. This chip will hold credit card information, health insurance information, drivers license, gps. You will be able to walk into a store take what you need and leave, and the chip will deduct from your bank account.
This SEEMS like a great idea. However, make a wrong move, or piss someone off, and they can easily shut your chip off, and you will have no way of buying or selling anything. How else would this be possible without the internet. (www--->666)

The Hebrew equivalent to our w is "vav" or "waw." The numerical value of vav is 6. So the English "www" translated into Hebrew is "vav vav vav," which numerically is 666.

Another example:

Revelation 13:1 And I saw a beast coming out of the sea. He had ten horns and seven heads, with ten crowns on his horns, and on each head a blasphemous name.

Daniel 7:7 (You can read the previous lines)...It was different from all the former beasts, and it had ten horns(....)7:24 The ten horns are ten Kings who will come from this Kingdom.


The European Union has the plans drawn for dividing the world and all of the countries of the world into 10 divisions.

1. America, Canada and Mexico
2. South America
3. Australia and New Zealand
4. Western Europe
5. Eastern Europe
6. Japan
7. South Asia
8. Central Asia
9. North Africa and Middle East
10. Remainder of Africa

The Bible also explains that we will not understand the book of Daniel until the end times.

Daniel 12:9 He replied, "Go your way, Daniel, because the words are closed up and sealed until the time of the end. Many will be purified, made spotless and refined, but the wicked will continue to be wicked. None of the wicked will understand, but those who are wise will understand.

Daniel 12:4 But you, Daniel, close up and seal the words of the scroll until the time of the end. Many will go here and there and knowledge will be increased.

^^^Meaning transportation will be vastly increased, being able to travel around the world quicker than ever before, and knowledge has increased exponentially in this past century. More knowledge will be gained in 2-4 years than the past 5000 years in total. Not til the past few decades have the book of Daniel and the book of Revelation been studied so thoroughly and we have only just begun to learn what these books teach us.

These are just a small fraction of the Prophetic words in the Bible that have or will come to pass with stunning detail and accuracy.

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I hate to bust your bubble, but you do realize that the bible was written by man and as you have proven in your last post... is also interpreted by man.

One could say the same for the complete writings of science, past and present... but the bible story never changes... where as the record of collective science does as it corrects it's errors and refines it's ability to understand more ... not to mention in terms of volume, dwarfs the one book that all fundamentalists revere. Warping the world to fit this collection of stories could pass as a definition of 'insanity'. Thus the 'mental' in the fundamentalist.

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Well, just like the Bible says...those who don't have faith in Christ will not understand the words of the book. Even though the words are so very clear.
You just watch, the European Union WILL divide the world, Islam will probably over rule almost every country, and just like the bible forewarns, the Antichrist, or the Islamic Messiah, will come..along with the religious prophet, and deceive the world. Not too long after 2015, Jesus will come back and rule the Earth. You don't believe me now, but I guarantee you, once all these things come to pass, I HOPE you realize how right the bible was, and put your faith in Jesus, because that is the only way you will ever make it.

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If Jesus/Buddha/Allah exists and refuses to acknowledge my good deeds, which i performed by my own fruition with no expectations in return... such as a reward/heaven or punishment/hell... then i'm fine with not 'making it' ...for why would i want to spend an eternity with a blind master with ego-driven conditions.

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After some further reflection on the collective input here and elsewhere... I have come to a theory on Bush & Palin die-hard supporters; the fundaMENTAList mindset is a lobotomy to the critical-thinking-skill toolbox, which would explain the gullibility/naivety in how easily they are mislead/manipulated by those who play to their weaknesses/blind-spots (aka ' wag the dog') ... ie biblical based beliefs. How on or off target am i? Would like to hear from those who are more objective (not religious).