2012 and the Final Conclusion

Originally posted by spinalremain
OK Im dumb. You figured it out. We will pass through the dark rift like the Mayan said and we will light up and die. Ya know, it's people like you that freak out the morons. It's people like you that feed off others ignorance so that you can feel better about yourself. Keep telling yourself that Googling 2012 and watching History channel is research.

No I did not just rely on the History channel,

I did think it was an easy example for others to follow though,

take your trolling elsewhere,

reply to post by Lavey2


Well you speak of all this research you have done yet your thread opens with History channel. That was a bad move. We all have television and most of us know that History channel is primarily drivel which they want you to hear. If you have done lots of research I don't think you got very far.

Im not trolling. I am contributing. Albeit refuting, that doesnt mean I am trolling. I am trying to debate some of your theories with backed up science and you told me to shut up. Maybe if you listened and discussed you could learn.

"Alot of people dont get the idea if we pass the 'equator' of the milky way there is a strong possibility of a magnetic reversal."

What you stated above is scientifically known to be incorrect. If you don't somehow like that please don't become angry with me. I didn't create the universe.








[edit on 11-1-2010 by spinalremain]

Again, I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT ONE SINGLE EVENT.

but I am talking about multiple events INTERACTING with each other.

so please if you think you 'know' the answer, I guarantee you with half the things ive read you only have about 1% of the puzzle, I've worked out about 10%, no one will fully be able to predict the scale of such an event, but some of the greatest minds that we have of today do agree 'something' BAD will happen.

The idea again of this topic was to discuss the PREVIOUS mass extinctions so we may look for signs in the future of a repeat of the past.

The last time this happened the dinosaurs became extinct.

Now if your a christian, or take one too many shrooms or drugs please leave this topic alone as there is no room for spirituality in this topic.

In the last 12 months I predicted the H1N1 outbreak with my research according with the pattern and built up an idea for a fractal equation.

To actually have all the factors to be put into such an equation would be horrifying to do as a job I do not think I am capeable of such a task.

look just because ONE part of the puzzle happened MANY years ago, seperate from other events preventing an interaction with each other had NO effect on us whatsoever does not mean that if they do become linked with one another the same thing will repeat.

I am proposing that these events only occur SIMULTANIOUSLY every 65-70 MILLION years.

HOW MANY TIMES DO I NEED TO KEEP SCREAMING AT YOU.


Its like talking to a brick wall.

[edit on 11-1-2010 by Lavey2]

What puzzle? The one you created?


I dont claim to have all the answers at all. Thats ludicrous. What I present to you is that we look at science and not H channel. Heaven forbid I know. For that matter, how would you even know what I know or dont know? You dont. You like to assume. Your entire premise is an assumtion. Hell, you even assume that the sky will light up when we pass through the galactic center which already happened but somehow you knew it happened? How does that work?

I also believe that the planet has cyclic events of mass extinction. We are in agreement there. I do however believe that we aren't due for another for quite some time. I also believe that it isn't a black and white cycle which can be pinpointed to an event or series of events. We just don't know. It could be anything.

You started the thread by stating that people dont know this or that. Well neither do you, and the fact of the matter is, that a lot of what you propose is wrong.

PS. screaming at me doesn't make the Maya any more clairvoyant or genius than you need them to be.

[edit on 11-1-2010 by spinalremain]

Everything has a polarity, and yes the milky way does have a polarity as well.

If it didnt the milky way wouldnt be the shape it is.

We have a large cluster of stars and a black hole in the center of the milky way which also has a polarity itself.

this dictates how our solar system moves around the milky way according to its cycles. Its like your saying gravity here on earth doesnt exist.

Originally posted by spinalremain
What puzzle? The one you created?


I dont claim to have all the answers at all. Thats ludicrous. What I present to you is that we look at science and not H channel. Heaven forbid I know. For that matter, how would you even know what I know or dont know? You dont. You like to assume. Your entire premise is an assumtion. Hell, you even assume that the sky will light up when we pass through the galactic center which already happened but somehow you knew it happened? How does that work?

No that will happen I assure you without a doubt. The dark rift is called the dark rift for a reason, and did you also know that stars themselves cause light pollution?

The dark rift itself poses NO risk, but the actual polarity change does.

To what extent I dont know no one does it could have far reaching consequences on an epic scale.

[edit on 11-1-2010 by Lavey2]


NO I did NOT create this puzzle, and you are most definately someone on here who needs to get an education, some of your answers are very simplistic. I've done the math, I've spent a whole year on this, and guess what it wasnt drug induced.

I was also one of the first posters via an old account to suggest the solar storm and was blown off by other members who were still talking rubbish about some phantom alien planet called nibiru, which does not exist.

[edit on 11-1-2010 by Lavey2]

OK educate me. Please prove how the link I provided is wrong and show the math. Im all ears. If what you show proves me wrong I will apologize and say thank you for teaching me something.

Originally posted by spinalremain
What puzzle? The one you created?


I dont claim to have all the answers at all. Thats ludicrous. What I present to you is that we look at science and not H channel. Heaven forbid I know. For that matter, how would you even know what I know or dont know? You dont. You like to assume. Your entire premise is an assumtion. Hell, you even assume that the sky will light up when we pass through the galactic center which already happened but somehow you knew it happened? How does that work?

Assumption? This itself makes me incredibly mad as I have researched the living daylights out of this, I predicted the H1N! outbreak according to the behaivor of solar storms and CME's and the effects on the virus by a type of radiation which stimulates it. You think its gone? you have no idea whats coming the second wave hasnt even begun yet as much as the media likes to portray it.

Australia is going to get blasted the living daylights out of with extreme radiation while the northern hemisphere is going to be frozen over, and then which it switches back there is the possibility that situation could even reverse but have more dire consequences for the south pacific.

you've exhausted me, its nearly midnight my time, I have to get up early for work and I cant spend all night arguing
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I have to be in the office by 8am goodnight.


Courtesy Is Mandatory

[edit on 22/1/2010 by Sauron]

Everyone here wants to see the research and the math. Youtube videos are for the UFO section. You have a golden opportunity to turn this thread into a solid backed up theory with math. Lets see if you can deliver or if you're talking junk.

As soon as I ask for the math and the actual work he has to go. You see that people? You all see that ATS? He is now a prophet predicting flu and global radiation. When it comes time to show the math and prove his theory it's time for bed or work Nuff said. You are a charlatan and you have a steady job awaiting you at History channel where you can get paid for your fear mongering without any proof beyond the old "Oh The Maya said so"

If I spent the last year swallowing Mayan prophecy about the dark rift, I too would be upset. I didn't though. What I did was pick up science journals and went online to read astronomy articles to see how it pertained to all the H channel stuff. You didnt do that so you resort to name calling. Now all of ATS sees you for what you are. A childish incorrect kid who cries foul when wrong. You need to grow up. And that is the "Final Conclusion".

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[edit on 11-1-2010 by spinalremain]

reply to post by Lavey2


And if the predictions you are proclaiming & defending here don't come to pass...

Will you create a thread on the 22/12/2012 admitting that you got it all completely wrong and that you are sincerely sorry for fear mongering?

Or will you

- Simply Disappear?
- Hope no one remembers your thread?
- Move the goal posts and reinterpret the predictions?

So what is it? Man Up or Cower Away?

IRM

[edit on 11/1/10 by InfaRedMan]

reply to post by InfaRedMan


Bu bu bu but its the final conclusion. I will remember this thread and bump it when the time is right. See, I can predict things too.

Originally posted by Lavey2

In the last 12 months I predicted the H1N1 outbreak with my research according with the pattern and built up an idea for a fractal equation.

Can you show us:

A) Your Research
B) Somewhere on the internet, scientific journals or any publication where your H1N1 predictions were timestamped?

If not, your just another attention deprived charlatan who has lost the ability to differentiate between fantasy and reality.

So what's it gonna be?

Science or Snake Oil?

IRM

[edit on 11/1/10 by InfaRedMan]

OK Ill explain it simpler.


After further researching the mayans it appears that they were able to make the calander based on mathematics of probability and astronomy.

Basically if you roll a dice so many times will will come out with a similar pattern, this follows the I-ching theory. (which I originally thought was BS!).

but over all there is a mathematical explanation, as to why I dont know and I dont think science can explain it as it ties in with the global consciousness project.

They predicted the arrival of the spanish from this on the exact date and montezumea was taken advantage of.

Now why should I go back and post all the information? its all over ATS, everyone has little bits and pieces. I suggest you you should look for it yourself.


This is a conlcusion.


and let me explain.


As we pass through the equator, it is not just planet earth you selfish little human that will change polarity, the sun's polarity will change, and this will cause a massive CME.

The 'lights' above china during the earthquake were not related to HAARP, but the aurora borelis/northern lights due to the magnetic interference.

Global warming is directly tied to this, disease patterns and how far they spread and where. You get diseases appearing in places that they have never been in history.

you have avionics failures in planes there has been HEAPS of planes crashing from this... GOOGLE IT.

in one instance two nuclear submarines crashed into each other... HOW DOES THAT HAPPEN?

you get a higher rate of whales beaching themselves... GOOGLE that as well.

you get Massive heatwaves in Australia, and tempratures dropping well below zero in the northern hemisphere.


This was all written ages ago.


Now as the sun goes through the polarity reversal so does our own planet, NASA has an article called "when the sun does a flip"

Now that relates exactly to our own situation with the mantle under the crust of the earth.

True north and true south will change again.

And now I will explain why I beleive this is another mass extinction.

70 MILLION years ago all these events correlated at the exact point in time,
we had the 'super volcano theory' 'asteroid theory' 'climate change theory'.

And if we go back and look at it is IMPOSSIBLE that one single instance or explanation is NOT possible for the extinction of the dinosaurs NOR the breaking up of the continents.

You fail to see the big picture.

you also fail to grasp that everything that you see on TV at the moment is related to it, THE RING OF FIRE IS GOING NUTS.

you have volcanos exploding in the phillipines.... earthquakes in hati....

a massive earthquake knocks california and you still have you head in the ground?

You fail to understand before the earthquake hit moments earlier a metorite crashed into california... and this has not been fully covered or scientifically explained.

you fail to understand that the reason the whole climate gate arguement is pulling al gores big lie to shreds is that global warming is NOT man made,
the idea of that human beings are somehow at the center of all problems here on earth is absolutely self centered and ignorant.

He took advantage of a situation, wrote a book, made millions.

He's now covering his ass desperately.


'Climate change'- Yes it does exist, but there is [SNIP] you can do about it.

To also give you another example on the H1N1 if you havent gotten it through your skulls is that the virus is manipulated by high amounts of UV radiation, we still do not understand how but during peak moments of CMEs the virus is stimulated.

on MARCH 9 1918 AS I KEEP SAYING, THE INFECTION RATES SOARED PAST 600%

there was a media blackout regarding infection rates, but there are plenty on the northern lights going down as far as Mexico.

you fail to understand that if the solar storm hits we have hundreds of satellites in orbit which are filled with plutonium, and if they were to blow up in the atmosphere it WOULD BE THE APOCALYPSE.



and [SNIP] take your drug induced loony theories of 'evolving' or aliens coming to save us somewhere else.

This is the end of humanity.

No electricity, no food, no water, no computers, tied in with natural disasters and plagues.

HAVE YOU ANY COMPREHENSION!



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please read Vulgarity and The Automatic ATS Censors





[edit on 22/1/10 by masqua]

reply to post by InfaRedMan


yes I will.

and I will openly apologize and admit that I am wrong.

so far I've predicted the h1n1 infections, and going off the data ive got,

I haven't made a single mistake on the weather or virus infections.

the northern hemisphere froze over on 21st of December the winter solstice.

they are calling it the mini ice age.


But if I am wrong I will openly admit it publically and even do a video apologizing.

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