Still think aliens are here to 'help mankind evolve'?

I think the most puzzling aspect of this case (and many cattle mutilations) is the lack of blood on, or anywhere near, the victim(s)

I have first hand experience of the sheer mess even ONE pint of blood spilled out or sprayed from it's source can make. This leads me to several thoughts/options...

: The victim was literally drained of any/all blood prior to the incisions, effectively killing them before cutting

:They were cut up after death, after blood ceased to circulate, though I would have thought SOME blood would be evident.

: Whatever cut them cauterized while cutting... but in all honesty I would have thought anything making that clean an incision would not blanket cauterize to the point were absolutely no blood is evident. And what about those victims that have been TOTALLY drained of blood.

en.wikipedia.org...

There is also the possibilty the mutilations have been done to deflect attention from the real reason for the abduction/death.... What that would be is anyone's guess.

One other possibility ... The person/cattle died BEFORE being taken and mutilated....ie: the act is an opportunistic taking of some resource or similar contained within a recently deceased animal/person.

Anyway, to reiterate... I've seen what a single pint of blood looks like when thrown/sprayed on the floor within a small area ... It is spectacularly messy and actually looks worse and more than it actually is. How on earth can the carcass be so clean of blood is weird.

The only explaination I would have regarding this matter is that some kind of twisted doomsday cult needed more voodoo trinkets. However there doesnt seem to be any possible way this could have been performed by human hands. Very wierd indeed!

I would bet all my money on Alien Interaction.

Not only 'drained totally of blood' (both animals and humans) but also WITHOUT VEINOUS COLLAPSE....now let's see a modern terran human do that with a scalpel !!

Originally posted by tripulation666
hypothesis - Perhaps, if it was the work of an extra dimensional being, far more advanced than our own,, perhaps they understand the biomechanisms with in our body's, and the presence of the soul within, perhaps their research, sample whatever,, required a living being, with an active conciousness to actually experience that pain and event?...


another idea,
perhaps this has only happened once, as they were actually good aliens and were aware of the value of life and karmic forces of the universe.....
this had to occur, the abductee had to experience that amount of pain as it was the crucial element to their experiment, which is much larger than ourselves,,

maybe this happens evrytime civilisation reaches the breaking point.. and needs to start again? they take a biological metaphysical snapshot of their (or his, hell maybe even her's) creation, for the next time around,,

perhaps this man was christ or a christ......??

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'Let us do evil so good may come out of it'? Sorry but that is something that goes against God. These entites whatever they are will/were/are going to have to deal with the Lord and his right hand.

Has anyone considered the possibility that the victim's torture, murder, mutilation, and the drainage of blood were conducted elsewhere, with the body only subsequently being discarded of where it was finally located?

Just because there was no blood at the scene of the body's discovery does not mean that there wasn't a whole lot of blood loss somewhere else, necessarily. Just tossing it out as a possibility.

OMG?? I wish you would have warned me those pics were so disturbing..... I do think there are some crazy people out there but the mans back side looked real horrible........ That gave me the heebie jeebiez...................

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You're just an alien/demon sympathizer. Just because they were created by God too doesn't mean he loves them, these entities are unclean and are going against everything God represents. Human life is worth more than any aliens by far. You don't know what I know or what I have seen or who I have met. And we are living in a time when things are going to get worse for us, I suggest you beg God from the heart to lead you back to him and away from all the deceptions.

i have a few comments

1) if the aliens are advanced enough to fly into space why not simply leave it in space where we cant find it

2) not all aleins will have the same intentions, in the same way there are different political egenders and systems of ethics here on earth

3) if they are that advanced, weve already mastered cloning as a species , surly super intelegent aliens could jst grow their own humans

this case seems to be more the evidence of perhaps extreme torture or experimentation of human origins, aleins arent retarded if they can navigate the universe, to them leaving a body theyve done that to is as stupid as jumping into a meat grinder would be for us

Originally posted by C1OUD
i have a few comments

1) if the aliens are advanced enough to fly into space why not simply leave it in space where we cant find it

2) not all aleins will have the same intentions, in the same way there are different political egenders and systems of ethics here on earth

3) if they are that advanced, weve already mastered cloning as a species , surly super intelegent aliens could jst grow their own humans

this case seems to be more the evidence of perhaps extreme torture or experimentation of human origins, aleins arent retarded if they can navigate the universe, to them leaving a body theyve done that to is as stupid as jumping into a meat grinder would be for us

Have you ever thought that these entities just don't care and hate us and view us as a resource? As 'talking monkies'? These aliens are the demons and locusts and are nothing but vermin, useless. They are worthless.

And that includes if they are humanoids, hybrids, greys, nordics, reptoid, or any other strange malevolent entities, they are the same demons of old.

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I sooooooooo agree with you there! here we are pointing fingers at aliens but we are i think the worse species .

but i worrie still about my encounter with the alien ,omg id never want to see it in person again. (shiver)

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They are kinda like a dragon that we use to read on fairy tales. But by the time they notice it, we shall get up in our horses, get our swords and go out to the dragon, confront it and simply slay it.

i duno about the hole slay dragon bit , i mean , these alien can control your body , i mean i couldnt move at all...my arms were like very heavy i couldnt ever scream yell nothing....

i think they would win, i couldnt fight i couldnt move.

Originally posted by cherry
i duno about the hole slay dragon bit , i mean , these alien can control your body , i mean i couldnt move at all...my arms were like very heavy i couldnt ever scream yell nothing....

i think they would win, i couldnt fight i couldnt move.

There are researchers and authors out there who have found that people can resist abductions by calling on the name of God.

oh wow realy thanks , thats good to know hopfully that would work.

i dread the day if it comes back for me , this forum creeps me right out.

This mutilation was obviously done by someone who either did not have a place to dispose off the body or wanted the body to be found and for people to be frightened and confused.

An advanced alien species would be able to hide/destroy the body so that nobody would know about it. If they really wanted they could conquer the world (since they are so advanced) and subjugate everyone without having to frighten people first.

So this act was obviously done by someone who does not have technology to dispose off body parts or is not powerful and advanced enough to control people openly. So it is done by someone without too much technology (just enough to operate like a surgeon) and has malicious intent to frighten people without having the ability to actually do anything beyond that.

This sounds like our good old US military/intelligence cabal - not enough technology to travel at lightspeed to different planets, but enough to frighten and kill innocent people.

Originally posted by cherry
I have seen an alien , i know this will sound crazy but i know what i saw i was awake and im not at all insane .....

i was laying in bed i just had my little girl she was few weeks old and i was laying in bed my baby was beside me in her little bed i set up so it easy for me to feed take care of her waking up ever 2,3 hours so ...anyways i was laying there just closing my eyes she was supose to wake up soon so i was resting
i felt a presents in the room i opened my eyes , the alien was standing beside me , he was tall , oh and i was awake through this....no doubt . andways he was very tall like six feet giver take light tan color skin huge black eyes large head two slits for nostrils and a small slit for a mouth it was staring at me no expresion i dont think it can have one just the way the face looked i dunno..but i was so terrified i wanted to get up scream i could not , i couldnt even move my arms were stuck on my sides of me...i was trying to scream but i was holding my breath like , my husband sleeping beside me did wake up at all ...
i was sooooooo freaking scared and all of a sudden he was gone i got my body back i was able to move i yelled at my man he woke up he had no clue about anything ....that is my true story ...i was away , no doubt i know what i seen and i know they are real!!!! THEY ARE REAL!!! people ,i never believe in them tell that night. if anyone knows what kind of alien was in my room that night , if it was bad or just there just to see look at me abserve .... mind my spelling im still shakin up on all this , every time i walk about it my nerves get bad...i dont sleep well anymore im scard that they it will come back...i dont sleep with the lights off....and i get so scard i cry some nights.....the feeling of not being able to scream and move , its like i had no control of myself i couldnt get away. thanks for reading.

Okay...I've had a "sleep paralysis" episode myself, and I in fact, saw what I also believed to be a Grey Alien. It felt as real as my typing these words, but, science insists that these are mere illusions created by waking up within the lucid state of dreaming known as R.E.M. Now, I'm not going to tell you whether your experience was just a hallucination because the experience itself is subjective to the person who experiences it. However, the one thing that I SUGGEST TO YOU IS THIS... If the alien that you saw was evil or malevolent in any way, DON'T YOU THINK YOU WOULD BE DEAD RIGHT NOW?

So, just keep that in mind and don't fear anything. As long as you are here telling your story, then I would have to say that overall things must have went well with your encounter.

Originally posted by topsecretombomb
The only explaination I would have regarding this matter is that some kind of twisted doomsday cult needed more voodoo trinkets. However there doesnt seem to be any possible way this could have been performed by human hands. Very wierd indeed!

I would bet all my money on Alien Interaction.

As much as I believe in aliens, this could have easily been done by human hands. The medical industry has made several advancements in the field, and believe me, bleeding someone out and storing their blood isn't a problem. And, there's no indication that the location of where the body was found was also the location of the murder. There are hundreds of possibilities here that need to be looked at before automatically jumping to the alien explanation.

Cow Mutilation by:-

a. Humans:- possible, and perhaps had advance experimental technologies. BUT they dont need to go to the countrysides and test on animals, leaving evidences around for decades. They can easily buy the entire herd from New Zealand if they so need.

b. Extra-terresterials:- based on credible witnesses sightings/abductions and other nations' govts disclosure, they do exist and would have the tech to do so BUT they certainly can't pay the famer to buy even one cow. You think they know how and have the currency, or even the need for it????

Human Mutilation by:-

a. Humans:- During WW2, the Nazi and Japs had done it before on victims based on recorded evidences during the Nuremburg trials. Tech then was not what it is now, but humans had been known to be fully capable of such atrocities, and they CERTAINLY cant purchase any willing victim for such brutalities, thus would need the secrecy.

b. Extraterresterials:- Capable, but till today, we dont know their intentions other than that they exists. Thus it is vital and critical we need the CONTACT files to be open now so that a rational judgement be made and pervent such atrocities from happeing again, by men or by ETs.

It was done by a fish they enter through a circular hole and they eat the internal organs. This is Sao Paolo you know the start of the Amazon river. There called Candiru Theres 6 known species of this catfish (think about that next time you decide you want catfish) and have been known to inhabit corpses pulled from the water. They will eat a corpse from the inside out often leaving the skin intact.

Originally posted by EvolvedMinistry
There are hundreds of possibilities here that need to be looked at before automatically jumping to the alien explanation.

Indeed. I'm trying to find proper information (not the OMG ALIENS ADBUDCTED HIM! stuff) but can't seem to find any. The autopsy documents I didn't read because I didn't think they were in English, by the way (are they?).

Hell, this man could have been kidnapped by a HUMAN being and kept at another location for x amount of time, surgery could have been performed over y amount of time - who knows? No one it seems. I read that somebody witnessed him getting sucked up by a UFO... but I couldn't find anymore on it. Not surprising really.