Still think aliens are here to 'help mankind evolve'?

reply to post by tripulation666


That would be fine if this snapshot was just the only victim but there have been reports of these mutilations taking place not just in South America but in Wales UK (two walkers found dead of similar injuries), and I believe there was a case of a B52 crew being found inside their aircraft having suffered very similar injuries also.

I would not be at all surprised to discover at some point that the human mutilation phenomenon is high up on list of things that TPTB wish to keep suppressed and is probably why we hear very little about it in the field of UFO research.

I have also read of a fire fight during the Vietnam War when American soldiers came across a group of extraterrestrials loading glass-like drums of human body parts onto a landed UFO deep in the jungle. A fire fight ensued and both sides sustained casualties. The idea that we can inflict casualties on them indicates that we might be on par militarily with the visitors?

Or it is a lie and the fire fight never happened.

Regardless, my own opinion is that these human mutilations and also the animal mutilations are the work of extraterrestrials and I am also of the opinion that the reason the victims are conscious during the “procedure” is that there is an important chemical reaction that is involved.

The victim probably needs to be conscious for the chemicals within the tissues extracted to be of any intrinsic worth to the harvester?

I see little reason to be concerned though because like I said earlier in the thread – a few bad apples do not ruin the orchard and I will take the risk if I get the chance.

reply to post by rapunzel222


for the record ATS's,, I as in me tripulation666, want to let u know now that in time people will come to the conclusion that god, this whole controlled evolution thing, what ever other worldy force, which we mostly consider to be highly evolved beings these days, will actually be an octopus god king, living in the deepest depths of the oceans......

think about their physical makeup, and intelligence,,, perfect setup to connect to the spiritual realm...........

further more, we evolved from the ocean and it still runs through us everyday..................

oh mighty OCTOPUS king!!!!

u alll may aswell start bowing now...

b4 u wipe this off,, the bass of the spine is a spiritual center for our bodies.... we poop from there.....

the pineal gland is up the other end... it is where we consume, (taste, smell, see ect) and serves the same purpose, physically to a more significant degree than the base of the spine,, the soul resides their.....

octo's do the both from the same spot with a complex system of anulas'.........

trust me,, its the mighty octo god who made us.......
it has a more logical basis than theism....

reply to post by SmokeJaguar67


firstly please excuse my last post (octoking), it's just a thought with no other vessel to carry it,,


very interesting...... i've never heard of such a fire fight,, u wouldn't be able to site such an event would you??
and well put about the apple orchid, i think your quite right....

reply to post by tripulation666


Some sites on the subject

Human mutilations

Hey i remembering seeing this picture a long time ago. When i was about 9 years old i had an obsessive interest in aliens and went on sites that 9 year old shouldnt for obvious reasons. Point is i saw this picture and it convinced me that aliens are dangerous, that along with the natural phobia i had of them kept me up for many nights of my life. I'd really just like for people to be skeptical about this picture before they go clutching their genitals. Fake models all in all have been made that look highly real, try not to rule out this possibility. Just because someone says they have an article where someone says this happened doesnt make it true by any means. Its essentially heresay, not to say that it is anymore than any other type of info. I just don't want people to be irrationally frightened, i have been for my whole life and it has ruined alot of things for me. Just keep in mind, that even if this is real it has happened on "record" only once (and i mean quality stories) and makes the likelihood of this occuring 1 in 6billion. We don't need to be pumping adrenaline over this stuff.

Originally posted by Moonman1111

Well, I am sure there are human Satanists out there who do this sort of evil behavior, but not like this if its even possible with the average Satanists tools whatever those might be. Also the aspect of cow mutiliations seems to involve paranormal activity according to some witness accounts who report strange sounds and lights around their ranches before finding the cows. Also, do you have any links relating to other human mutiliation cases?

You just said it all even if you dont know it. You said you know that Satanists would do this type of behavior but they don have the tools to do it. And you said there is PARANORMAL activities linked to other mutilations.

These Entities are exactly what you make them out to be but you never stated it. These "aliens" are Intra Dimensional beings who are no doubt Satanic. They are spoken about in Gen 6 and in the Book of Enoch.

These Entities will be posing as just what the title of the thread states, Our helpers into the next step of our Evolution. They are simply Fallen Angles posing as the Guardians of Light ect whose intent and purpose is to deceive Humans into accepting them as our Saviors and Creators and leading us to the NWO and Hell right along with them.

Please do not accept any of their lies that they are our "Ascended Masters" or any other bull# they are going to say. They are ONLY here for EVIL. They are the MAIN cause of Mankind's first destruction during the Flood.

They will again come to earth pose as Gods fornicate with Humans and lead us to our 2nd destruction!!

There is only one way to be truly saved from this oncoming destruction,

John 14: 6Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

text KOOOL AND GOOD JOB ON THE FAKE PHOTOS :d

reply to post by PR0T0TYP3


JOKE but the photos ae kinda unexplainible

I also would like to add more that once while being abducted I saw animals on board.

I also know the ET's are NOT squirmish when it comes to blood.

Ive had many (to put it bluntly) painfull backdoor exams.

They didnt disect me like this poor fellow was.

I will discuss this my my GUFO group.

of course aliens dont have ears !! and no lips also no nipples buut i still dont see why they would take the other parts ?

This is truly a horrific example of brutality against a victim, and whoever is responsible is monsterous to be sure. However, there are explanations other than the perpetrator not being of this Earth. We must never forget that human beings, as saddening and mind boggling as it may be to us, are fully capable of horrible, horrible acts.

I definitely have no doubt that humans are fully capable of these types of atrocities but medically speaking, it takes years of education to even learn the anatomy of the human body let alone the skills of that of a surgeon. As for claims of maggots, electrocution, etc..there are'nt any maggots on or in the body, which in itself is strange and electrocution turns or should I say burns you into charcoal because you've basically become a conductor or a fuse but nevertheless it still doesn't explain the precise cuts and incisions as well as the lack of blood on or near the body.

The lack of any of the body's 8 pints of blood makes me believe even more so that this is the work of something that is feeding upon mammals. Note that I used the term mammals because we don't differ that much once you get inside. You are aware that in an medical emergency , bovine blood works in the human body carrying oxygen in the identical manner as our own.

Just look at the animal kingdom, the prized portion of the kill is the organ meat. Why ? Because it is very rich in nutrients. The animals know this and fight over it.

Remember those Chupracabra things, what did they feed on I asK ?
BLOOD ! The blood from any warm blooded animal, goats, pigs, chickens, it didn't seem to really matter as long as it was BLOOD.
I have always suspected that these things are alien.

Also all of your modern precision medical equipment used to day such as lasers, saws, drills etc used by modern medicine require power, clean AC power so you can't just lug around a Diehard battery and power this equipment up in a tent. Batteries are DC power for one and most sensitive equipment such as this needs noise free, ie clean continuous AC power.

I do recall on the accounts I have read of the deep underground bases and what was going on there. Essentially the ET's fed on human glandular secretions mixed with blood and organs ground up in a form of a milk shake or smoothy. Apparently they get a rush from our glandular secretions.

Grosse but points to what we're seeing here with all of the cattle mutilations and this instance of a human mutilation.

Also, just perhaps the secret govt runs a fast food errand for the aliens from the underground basis on occasion to the local cattle rancher's herd for some take out blood and guts.

Additionally when our secret govt met with the ET's they made a deal that they wouldn't take as many humans in which to feed and use the bovine source instead. Check out MJ12.
But with all of the people who are known to simply disappear as well as cases such as this, it really makes me wonder ?

Finally, there is more than one species of ET so don't just bunch them all into one group. Some are friendly, some are not.

Good thread though guys , and thanks OP !

Originally posted by m0r1arty
Thanks new guy!

You really swung my mind around on this. I'm glad you signed up and shared that with us.

It's a shame you can't find the sources that back your argument up; but since it's your first day here I'll just take it at face value...

...

...Well, now that I believe I have to say I'm actually pretty scared!!

Is it ok if I go back to looking for proof for claims from credible (or at least more credible) sources? I don't want the Jesus flyers to have to save me from the alien demons

-m0r

I see your name on many threads here. Yes please help me find the sources I referred to in my post. I'd do it but I work over 80 hours a week and don't have the time. Good luck. I will be posting on this ID from now on.

reply to post by psychoacoustic1


I'd love to but I work 161 hours a week and use my cigarette breaks to squeeze in any posts I can get.

Glad to see AthenaCD back also.

-m0r

Originally posted by marsorbust
reply to post by Common Good

 

To say this was cruel is not as descriptive as it should be.

They don't care or have what we think of as feelings.

It is a very serious situation that all should be made aware of.

Thanks OP for bringing this to our attention.

Mob

I find this post to be interesting. Somehow you equate the treatment of this human to be cruel. However, don't we do the same thing to animals everyday that we are trying to study? Don't we treat each other in acts of war or interrogation in almost the same manner??? Don't we slaughter other species on our planet in mass in order to eat them, make clothes out of them...or worse??? Don't the animals and human beings that we destroy by the minute also have feelings???

Its always cruel and evil when something is done to one of us or our own, but, its in scientific discovery and the quest for knowledge when we do it to others. As far as I can see, this is the equivalent of dissecting a frog. So, while you cry about the inhumanity of aliens (yes, they're inhuman...they're aliens for God's sake), I'm going to have to take the opposite opinion. Plus, there's no proof that this was done by an alien at all.

Ever hear of Jeffery Dahmer, John Wayne Gacy, Ted Bundy, Hitler, Castro, or George Bush??? I think they've done far more damage to our fellow human beings than any alien.

Originally posted by Moonman1111

Originally posted by randyvs
reply to post by WormwoodHour

 

There is no proof at all it was an abduction by an alien, not even the usual blurry video or shocked witness report. The article just says it might have been one based on the accuracy of the mutilations

There is also no proof that cattle mutes are done by aliens.

I can't see it being done by humans, plus it fits the pattern of behavior set by the aliens, such as abducting people against their will, performing experiments on them, putting implants in them, taking sperm and egg cells, and God knows what else. These entities are lawless and are not to be idolized or viewed in a romantic enlightening manner.

Why couldn't you see this as being done by humans??? Seriously??? There have been many people in history who have done things like this and FAR WORSE. Where's the ultimate indication that this was done by an alien??? If you don't think that people could do this, then you're entirely too sheltered.

Originally posted by Moonman1111

Originally posted by Nventual

Originally posted by Moonman1111

Originally posted by randyvs
reply to post by WormwoodHour

 

There is no proof at all it was an abduction by an alien, not even the usual blurry video or shocked witness report. The article just says it might have been one based on the accuracy of the mutilations

There is also no proof that cattle mutes are done by aliens.

I can't see it being done by humans, plus it fits the pattern of behavior set by the aliens, such as abducting people against their will, performing experiments on them, putting implants in them, taking sperm and egg cells, and God knows what else. These entities are lawless and are not to be idolized or viewed in a romantic enlightening manner.

Wow, you really are living on the moon - aren't you?

It fits the pattern of behavior set by aliens? What? I shouldn't even have to point out what is wrong with that statement.

Abducting people against their will? Performing 'experiments' on them? Is it that hard for you to believe that a human being can do this and not a hypothetical being from another planet? As hard as it is to believe, their are people who have done this through out history and are no doubt doing it now and will continue to do so in the future.

It's sick, and I find shifting the blame to something as questionable as killer aliens is even sicker. Wake up to this reality before trying to live in another..

I'm sorry, but the testimony from various abductees, and x-rays only proves that it is not the actions of man. Yes 'experiments' as you put it are being done on mankind by these worthless entities.

Testimonies from abductees and x-rays are your undeniable proof that this was done by an alien??? First and foremost...the testimonies that you're referring to are testimonies done by people who "LIVED" through their experiences. So...that alone disproves your theory.

Secondly, the x-rays that have been taken from the "supposed abductees" were ALSO taken by people who are currently alive...So, WHERE'S THIS UNDENIABLE PROOF AGAIN?

Don't get me wrong...I honestly believe (and know), that there are other species in the Universe that are visiting earth. But, you're making leap here based on silly stories that feed your own internalized fear about the unknown.

There's no proof here of anything except that someone died under auspicious circumstances. You've completely lost any objectivity and its people like you who make this whole field appear as if its magnetized by crackpots.

And...you also called them worthless entities...And tell me, HOW MUCH ARE YOU WORTH??? You seem to place more value on YOUR OWN LIFE than may be deserved. Keep in mind, that if aliens do exist, then they are made by the same GOD that most people bow to and worship without question. Therefore, they may even have more worth in the eyes of God than someone like yourself who has fooled themselves into believing that they are the center of the Universe. Self worth is subjective, and apparently, you're soaring above us all.

[edit on 6-1-2010 by EvolvedMinistry]

The human being is capable of doing this thing, if the person is sick enough and mentally disturbed.

Perhaps it was some crazy scientist that did this?

Anyways, I don't believe that this was an abduction by aliens. It seems so... unlikely.

Other abduction cases never mention anything close to this, not even a death result!

This is most unlikely.

Originally posted by Moonman1111

Originally posted by spikey
reply to post by ucalien

 

Read what abductees have said, fourth time I have said this, you 'space brother' new agers are generic and too lazy to read through all the pages?



'Exactly the same thing, these 'kind religious folks' are doing regarding ET's..so there are direct parallels with the 'fallen angels' and these anti 'other lifeforms' people. Not that they would admit it. The guilty seldom admit their failings, especially from a pulpit.'

... Did you seriously think before typing that

are we going to other planets/dimensions abducting other beings and their animals? Ohhh you mean its bad to defend our planet from such entities who are doing that here right? We should be kind to these monsters huh? Grow up and wipe the tear out of your eye, do not feel sorry for them or be deceived by them.

POST BY EVOLVED MINISTRY
You seem to think that we actually have "defenses" against something like this. The fact that you're telling someone else to "grow up" when you're debating something that's entirely speculative cracks me up.

We do far worse to each other than I have ever seen an alien do to us. As a matter of fact, I've never actually seen an "ALIEN," therefore, I'm far more concerned with being mugged on the street by one of my own.

And, its kind of hard to be "deceived" by an alien when the idea of an "alien" is still a myth. I've seen odd crafts in the sky, and, I've seen things that are definitely questionable when it comes to the three dimensions that we perceive...but, I have never had an alien walk up and shake my hand. Therefore, your fear about what they can and cannot do is entirely limited to the confines of your imagination. I think that you may be the one that needs to "GROW UP." But, that's my personal assessment of your highly charged and aggressive post.

[edit on 6-1-2010 by EvolvedMinistry]

I have seen an alien , i know this will sound crazy but i know what i saw i was awake and im not at all insane .....

i was laying in bed i just had my little girl she was few weeks old and i was laying in bed my baby was beside me in her little bed i set up so it easy for me to feed take care of her waking up ever 2,3 hours so ...anyways i was laying there just closing my eyes she was supose to wake up soon so i was resting
i felt a presents in the room i opened my eyes , the alien was standing beside me , he was tall , oh and i was awake through this....no doubt . andways he was very tall like six feet giver take light tan color skin huge black eyes large head two slits for nostrils and a small slit for a mouth it was staring at me no expresion i dont think it can have one just the way the face looked i dunno..but i was so terrified i wanted to get up scream i could not , i couldnt even move my arms were stuck on my sides of me...i was trying to scream but i was holding my breath like , my husband sleeping beside me did wake up at all ...
i was sooooooo freaking scared and all of a sudden he was gone i got my body back i was able to move i yelled at my man he woke up he had no clue about anything ....that is my true story ...i was away , no doubt i know what i seen and i know they are real!!!! THEY ARE REAL!!! people ,i never believe in them tell that night. if anyone knows what kind of alien was in my room that night , if it was bad or just there just to see look at me abserve .... mind my spelling im still shakin up on all this , every time i walk about it my nerves get bad...i dont sleep well anymore im scard that they it will come back...i dont sleep with the lights off....and i get so scard i cry some nights.....the feeling of not being able to scream and move , its like i had no control of myself i couldnt get away. thanks for reading.