Are the elite using ‘The Secret’ against us?

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Follow the money indeed. Perhaps it really is as simple as economic bondage through the monetary system. It's been happening ever since the Egyptians lured the Israelites from their lands of abundance into urban commerce.

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It terrifies me to think how 'dumbed down' we actually already are. How much of a shadow are we of our true intellectual selves? I definitely believe that we are medically apathetic. We have very little ability to react in terms of anger.



[edit on 5-1-2010 by rexusdiablos]

Originally posted by thedeadtruth
" The Secret " is a false premise, promoted and used by salespeople of multi level marketing ideas. It is to used to give people the idea that if they are positive enough, riches will just appear. The makers of the movie The Secret were directly linked to a company called USANA .

The whole thing was designed so if you had watched the movie, you would be more open to a USANA rep coming up and tapping on the shoulder, and saying " How would you like to be a millionaire in 2 years ".
Then you go to their meetings and they repeat the same phrase " The Secret ........ " over and over again in reference to everything from success to mixing powders. All the while telling you that positivity will breed success.

The fact is most good things come from hard work, it be money or a relationship. But "hard work" is a dirty phrase to marketers.

Well, that sucks.

First I'm told Alex Jones is a shill. Them I'm told Zeitgeist is a sham. Now, this. Can anyone point me in the direction of verity?

reply to post by rexusdiablos


Alex Jones can be a little over the top and abrasive in his delivery, but a lot of his stuff is spot on. A LOT of it.

Zeitgeist has been shown to have some errors with the first/religious part - the other two, regarding 9/11 and the International Banking situation are right on the money. [pun intended]

This is one of those 'don't throw the baby out with the bathwater' situations.

Every time someone brings up Sitchin or Von Daniken (sp?), they are automatically dismissed as loons, 'cause some of their claims were baseless, and/or extrapolated. But, the overall BODY of their works cannot be ignored.

You have to be able to distinguish the bull# from the nuggets of truth in there.


[edit on 1/5/2010 by SquirrelNutz]

Originally posted by SquirrelNutz
reply to post by rexusdiablos

 

Alex Jones can be a little over the top and abrasive in his delivery, but a lot of his stuff is spot on. A LOT of it.

Zeitgeist has been shown to have some errors with the first/religious part - the other two, regarding 9/11 and the International Banking situation are right on the money. [pun intended]

This is one of those 'don't throw the baby out with the bathwater' situations.

Every time someone brings up Sitchin or Von Daniken (sp?), they are automatically dismissed as loons, 'cause some of their claims were baseless, and/or extrapolated. But, the overall BODY of their works cannot be ignored.

You have to be able to distinguish the bull# from the nuggets of truth in there.


[edit on 1/5/2010 by SquirrelNutz]

That makes an incredible amount of sense. I've stopped myself from watching Zeitgeist so many times after hearing of it's discreditation. It was such a appointment. Then again, the other parts as you've stated are viable.

When it comes to ancient aliens the proof for any moderate intellect overshadows the discrepancies. It's their in plain site in no ambiguous way.

[edit on 5-1-2010 by rexusdiablos]

"The Secret" was sponsored by Rockefeller and friends. nuff said.

It's just another scam to get people to think God doesn't exist.
I actually fell for this crap for a week or two.

Law of Attraction doesn't get you into the $50 mill+ club, bending over for the elite does.

Originally posted by EndOfTheWorld7
"The Secret" was sponsored by Rockefeller and friends. nuff said.

Do you have a link for further reading on the Rockefeller connection?

Originally posted by EndOfTheWorld7
It's just another scam to get people to think God doesn't exist.

IMHO the biggest 'scam' or deterrent that prevents people from the intelligent and unadulterated belief of a divine creator is organized religions such as Christianity and it's scriptures. Not only did I fall for 'The Secret', I fell for the 'Christianity' malarkey too.

[edit on 5-1-2010 by rexusdiablos]

Originally posted by rexusdiablos

IMHO the biggest 'scam' or deterrent that prevents people from the intelligent and unadulterated belief of a divine creator is organized religions such as Christianity and it's scriptures. Not only did I fall for 'The Secret', I fell for the 'Christianity' malarkey too.

[edit on 5-1-2010 by rexusdiablos]

I can't remember the source, but I was looking at the companies that produced and distributed "The Secret" and they were owned by Rockefeller and friends, it was also being sponsored all over T.V by people like Oprah.

Yes agreed, Christianity and Vatican Church are big scams also because they teach the scriptures totally wrong for their own reasons.

However reading the Bible on your study with History books will bring out way more truth than the Church and Vatican, all they do is lie.

I had heard of the book the secret years ago, but thought nothing of it until reading this post. I know I can make things happen, but I put it down to coincidence, wishes or prayer. My first “coincidence” occurred to me when I was carrying the first of the children, the young males/boys in my life (all of my sisters and friends) children were out of control and it terrified me to have a boy child, yes they totally put me off having children that’s how bad they were, so when I fell pregnant I was determined to have only girls, I wanted girls so badly it was all I could think about. And yes 10 months of constantly thinking about a girl came true. I was in a lonely marriage, and my now ex-husband hardly ever spoke to me, only to ask what’s for dinner. I would often sit outside in the garden and contemplate my future, having two beautiful young girls; I had to think about them as well, as my ex-husband was a good father I solemnly stayed with him for the girls. Anyway as I sat it the garden dreaming of a new life I would often look to the north and see the brightest star, I knew I had to go north; it was pulling me towards it. I woke up one day and thought this is silly just because my boring husband didn’t want to go out and have fun with us why should it stop me from taking the girls out and having some fun. so I read the local paper to see what was going on and low and behold there was going to be a parade in town, I though fantastic the girls would love this, asking my boring husband if he wanted to come along with us he refused stating that it was his weekend off work and wanted nothing more to do than watch TV… his loss… I took the girls to this parade we had the best time, someone threw a pamphlet at my feet, I picked it up and showed it to my eldest daughter she was 10 at the time, it was a brochure for children on learning about aviation, as I thought it would be right up her ally as when she played with her dolls she would put them in a shoe box and pretend to fly them into space, yeah I know not the average little girl but that’s what she did. I took her along to this club and she loved it. That’s where I met my now wonderful now husband. Coincidence? Who knows. He was a car salesman at the time and I had no idea what his background was. Apparently he was only at that job while he was waiting for approval from the army for his march in date. He got his first posting and we were on the move, we were heading NORTH to Darwin, from the bottom of Australia to the top. coincidence? Who knows. I had always dreamed of a two story house; guess what we were moving into a two story house. We lived there for 7 years. my husband came home from work and told us all about a new posting he wasn’t home very often in those years there. So we thought this move is going to be great for us as it meant he would be home every night for at least 15 months sweet. The 2 girls and I would joke around about what they wanted in the new house. A pool a big back yard for the dog, a big bathroom or even two, central cooling throughout the house, a garage for jezebel (our car) they got so carried away as to write down a groundskeeper a pool man and someone to grow the flowers.. mmm this was going to be tough and very unlikely as defense housing doesn’t have any of this. I thought about their list for quite a while over and over again. We loaded the car and off we went all the way back down south. It was a wonderful trip. We arrived at our new destination only to be put up in a hotel for several weeks due to the housing screwing up and having no where for us. We had to rent private; we found a house within our price and guess what? It has everything on that list coincidence? Who knows.

More recent was the thought of us needing a truck /Ute for our next posting so we can take the dog in the car with us, as we didn’t want to be flown again as last time she had a split on her head a concussion, we do not have much money but I still thought about having a 4WD Ute, there is now a 4WD Toyota Hilux sitting in our driveway. Now I’m thinking about what we want at our new posting. There are many more things that seem to happen for me. Do I make these things happen just by thinking about them? I’m not sure but in no way am I going to stop thinking about what would make my family happier. I’m now looking on e-bay for The Secret book. Maybe I already know the secret and wasn’t truly aware it was a secret. Sorry about the long post or if it’s irrelevant but I felt the urge and went with it.

Originally posted by EndOfTheWorld7
However reading the Bible on your study with History books will bring out way more truth than the Church and Vatican, all they do is lie.

Agreed. Much truth can be derived from the scripture so long as you're thinking for yourself and forming your own interpretation and filtering out the trash that pertains to slave ethics.

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Thanks for sharing. Any of my friends who practice 'The Secret' swear by it and often recount similar tales to what you've just described.

Though I believe there is something to it I ultimately do not trust it for the manner in which it prompts the practitioner to wish rather than act. It reminds me of folks who are convinced that they'll win the lottery some day.

Interesting criticism from Wikipedia here:

The claims made by both the book and film have been highly controversial, and have been criticized by reviewers and readers in both traditional and web-based media. The book has also been heavily criticized by former believers and practitioners, with some going as far as claiming that "the secret" was conceived by the author and that the only people generating wealth and happiness from it are the author and the publishers.[who?] Others assert "the secret" offers false hope to those in true need of more conventional assistance in their lives. In 2007 Barbara Ehrenreich, an author and social critic, ridiculed the book's weight control advice to "not observe" overweight people.[2] According to the online magazine Religion Dispatches, Byrne argued that natural disasters strike those "on the same frequency as the event" and implied the 2006 tsunami victims could have spared themselves.[3] In businesses using the DVD for employee training or morale-building, some reacted to it as "a gimmick" and "disturbing" like "being indoctrinated into a cult".[2] In 2009 Ehrenreich published Bright-Sided: How The Relentless Promotion of Positive Thinking Has Undermined America as a response to "positive thinking" books, like The Secret, that teach "if I just change my thoughts, I could have at all".[4] She worried this was delusional or even dangerous[3] because it avoided dealing with the real sources behind problems.[5] It encouraged "victim-blaming, political complacency, and a culture-wide flight from realism" by suggesting failure is the result of not trying "hard enough" or believing "firmly enough in the inevitability of your success". Those who were "disappointed, resentful, or downcast" were 'victims' or 'whiners'.[3] Ehrenreich advocated "not negative thinking or despair" but "realism, checking out what’s really there and figuring out how to change it".[4]

That being said, I do believe there is something to it,