The True Authorship of the New Testament

Yes, the New Testament supports a pacifist Messiah. Jesus captured the
old, outdated and dangerous thrasher-basher Messianic hope and turned it
on its head. The last NT book, Revelations is surely at odds with the
Messiah of the synoptics, the real Jesus. Read Dominic Crossan on this matter.
Jesus certainly represents a major, major paradigm shift away from the
ancient Jewish warrior king, Son of David. Thus, Jesus birth is shifted
by Jesus early disciples from Nazareth to Bethlehem - Jesus is portrayed
as the Son of David Messiah. Thereby Jesus and Christianity claim the
Messiah as their own. Not a killer King of the world but a humble suffering
servant. One who main weapon (:- ) is peace through justice.

The humble suffering servant that was crucified by the Romans
is the real Messiah. Look at the price tag on the cross - "King of the Jews."

This means, to my mind, the Real anti-christ of history is the Book of Revelations itself.

Historically, the Jewish elite opted for the status quo and the Warrior King
Messiah. Thus, in AD 132 a Jewish uprisings spread blood and carnage
through "the Holy Land." The Romans legions responded with savage fury.
The Jews were slaughtered by the thousands, if not millions. Jerusalem
was leveled and renamed. Jews were banned from entering the area.
Many Jews were scattered to all points of the compass. So much for that
kind of Messiah! Violent and irrational. And a major flaw in the Jewish
religion from the get go.

Yep, God loves them gentiles as much as
any child of Abraham. Why not?

Originally posted by qbaal

So much for that kind of Messiah! Violent and irrational. And a major flaw in the Jewish religion from the get go.

Yep, God loves them gentiles as much as
any child of Abraham. Why not?

Well, the OT God was very much like the violent irrational Jews. To my mind the Jews invented him in the image that gave their people the best chance of survival against all the other violent irrational tribes. That the violent irrational Gods and books of the other cults were lost to the ages is simply that they did not have the great publicists. Tough guys survived, the lambs were slaughtered. Some things never change.

Violent and irrational were the criteria for every faith from the beginning. The Greeks, Romans, Egyptians, Mayans, Norse, all were violent and irrational as the world they lived in was violent and irrational. That is exactly how I would characterize the natural world and how do you stand up to that? You fight fire with fire. There are a few now (perhaps there always were) that have gone against the grain, the Bahá'ís come to mind and they are regularly slaughtered by Muslims for their pacifism. If however you can fly under the radar, perhaps you can live a lifetime of pacifism. It's still a big world.

Thank you for your contribution.

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By the way, I forgot to thank you "qbaal" for lurking and showing your cowardly self a day ago. You are also "quelle". You've got a lot of time on your sticky hands. That member profile deal is a b*tch, is it not? Are you a Christian or a Roman? You are certainly a coward. Come out of your hole, what long time member are you? Don't want to be seen as a cowardly troll? Too late. Perhaps you fear me. And what is there to fear in me? Only you know.

[edit on 10-1-2010 by Hemisphere]

constitine basically published the bible so he could control the roman people