Our Republic Is Broken, A Constitutional Army Requested

It's funny how many people just wanna poo poo the idea that we can have real freedom, real change, and be the masters of our own destiny. The truth of the matter is though despite these people who cannot or will not see what's possible, we hold the power. I will stand along the side of my fellow Americans like you in defiance of their tyranny and together we will show the world our strong resolve and set an example for those who wish for freedom the world over!

reply to post by OpTiMuS_PrImE

I love your signature poster billboard, I'm sure that's what most people believe in too in the US, but the media and music try to limit the exposure that will get, due to power of the elites. I mean if there's a big problem and everybody wakes up at once and realizes, hey i shouldn't been so damn distracted with the crap they were trying to sell me and get me to listen too. People need to think revolution here or be oppressed, and i doubt that anyone will just sit back and let their freedom be takin away. i mean there's going to be people grouping up eventually the government, I know that will be people here that will refuse the MONDEX(MON=money, DEX=right handed) chip, and good for them.

Anyway their needs to be some mediator for our cry in the media, I Know Glenn Beck and Rush have their own strong beliefs but I bet they can't speculate future events on the radio and/or tv. I know they would probably look foolish at first, but if their facts and/or evidence cant back up the claim, then more people would tune in and start believing in freedom and what made this country great.

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Sorry you feel that way. Everyone doesn't. Some of us still love our country and we continue to participate fight for constitutional rights for everyone, not just Catholics, corporations, bankers, millionaires but for the average Joe.
We voted and our guy won. Wait four years - you will have your chance to push your militant agenda then. This is just "sour grapes" now.

Hi Protoplasmic Traveller......

I'm interested in a few of the points you've made throughout the thread. I admit, though - I'm totally baffled! What are you ytalking about with all of this New Rome and 8 caesars thing? Where is this information coming from? And could you explain it a little?

Thanks,

John

A cornerstone of freedom will come in the form of an open source free energy device. The technology has been available since the days of Tesla. Either kick start a grassroots Linux-type open source movement to reverse engineer this technology or find it by force if necessary. Once available, standardize the mass production and begin distributing it without condition to the people of the world.





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ok DO YOU (WE THE PEOPLE) REALLY want to hurt the government !!! IF ANYTHING "THEY" will SURELY know that we the people who are the metel to metel gears stuck in place on this well oiled machine can just STOP the movement and the computer (government/elite) will only be able to relay to the (check engine light)

but one small problem the ENTIRE U.S. needs to do this for it to be effetive This is all we do is pick one day and one day only. Before this day pay your bills, buy your groceries, put gas in your car, whatever you need to do then on this one and only day we the people set for our new holiday called (NATIONAL or perhaps WORLWIDE SOCIAL day) where everyone CALLS IN SICK trys to find things to do that day that takes as little or NO money! possoble and then just think what would happen we would of SHUT DOWN almost if not completely everything !! WE THE PEOPLE CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE

David Koresh- Remember Waco

Do we learn from lessons and tactics used?

Who was right and who was wrong and did U.S. Attorney Janet Reno make the

right move to go into the compound?

Will history repeat itself?


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Charles I respect your passion and desire for things to be different, but I cannot sign on to your vision. Our country is not perfect but it is not the bad, dark place teetering on the brink of disaster as you describe. Frankly these kinds of statements I'm hearing nowadays seem to be too little too late.
Where was all the outrage during the previous administration when most of the mess we are in was created? Where was the anger? Where was the talk of militias? I ain't buying sorry.

We are not perfect but our country is in a hell of a lot better shape than many in this world. Hopefully with more diligence, education and passion for change among our future generations, things can change for the better. I am hopeful and an optimist.

Fact is Obama is and was the most outside the mainstream candidate we've ever elected. He defeated the big money of the Clintons as well as the GOP. I truly believe he is trying to make this country better but that he is being pulled by very tight strings. Whether or not he decides to break free is yet to be determined. But I would not be surprised that if and when he does, he is putting himself as well as his beautiful family in grave danger. It'll be an interesting few years to say the least..

As much as I agree with needing to redo this screwed up govt, I don't really see anything happening short of a massive incident within our shores. The american people are far too conforming and lazy to really do much. Too much ranting and raving. I'm all for a revolution. Whether this comes to pass within my lifetime is yet to be seen. When it happens, tho, I will be amongst the ranks fighting for a true change.

Originally posted by divinetragedy79
As much as I agree with needing to redo this screwed up govt, I don't really see anything happening short of a massive incident within our shores. The american people are far too conforming and lazy to really do much. Too much ranting and raving. I'm all for a revolution. Whether this comes to pass within my lifetime is yet to be seen. When it happens, tho, I will be amongst the ranks fighting for a true change.

When the people are without food, clean water and electricity it is to late. 2010

will be the start to mend our Republic that is broken at the voting booth. ^Y^

Personally, I feel these people advocating violence are simply terrorists. They are simply attempting to wrap it in nationalism like countless others tyrants did in the past.

Suppose these so called constitutionalists were actually able to overthrow the government. Do you really think they would follow the constitution? Wouldn't the constitution allow for the liberal ideas which they are against to trickle back into government? What about the Bill of Rights? Would they tolerate free speech?

Likely, they would impose martial law and install a militant dictator style government where dissent is not tolerated. I have a feeling all religious institutions except a chosen few Christian denominations would be outlawed. I don't even want to think about what would be the status of minorities under their rule.

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reply to post by littlebunny


If you want to change or effect the descisions of the local governement, call your city council rep. or members or mayer; for state call the Governor or state senators, for federal we could vote, protect, and try to get a hold of someone in washington.

Now what happens if nothing happens and they do not here our cry? I'm going to use this analogy for it because this is what i believe, you may disargee. Sppose you get picked on and beatened at school(for thinking or believing)something that is of the norm. You go and talk to the teachers and principal about what happened and the kids names that are guilty of it, and they really don't do anythng, they give them detention. So the bullies get out detention and beat the kid senseless on the way home, he tells his mother and step /father, and they demand to find the kids and call the cops. so they called the cops, and the cops find and arrest the bullies. By law they can be detained up to 72 hours, insufficient evidence to convince the bullies. Now the bullies find the kid when they get out of jail, and threaten his life verbally at school. Since they are on school property and are monitored by camaras and facualty/students they will touch this kid at school. 3 o' clock strikes and the kid walks home, and bullies find the kid the pull out chains to beat the kid, and the pulls out a big knife or gun and kills them. Or course then the kid gets convicted of 4 counts or murder and he's in jail for life.

At what point do people that feel helpless and unheard do somthing, anything to stay alive and for the "persuit of happiness". The kid in the story was just trying to live and bullies kept bringing him with verbal threats and physical treats, and beaten til death, and he was tired of being the victim he stood up himself.

I hope the "peaceable means" works for getting congress and the president to listen to us, and produce action in favor of the people, not the agenda of the elites. if they don't produce action in favor of the people, and then and purpose life or death ultimatiums, to try and control or scare the people into conforming, then screw that, it's WAR.

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thats right johnny--he will be on the list---------what we need to do is unite as 1 and vote change---it is the only way ----what stops us is sepparation from each other-----what we need is for all the news sights--ats -opednews-gorilla news--onion-Independent news- ALL THE GREAT SIGHTS OUT THERE--elect a individual from each sight= to get togather with all others and form a movement to un-elect-the traitors--------togather we would win hands down------------------but we are all sepparated so-----there it is-------we need to stop bickering about all the little things and unite-------[so ats moderator--lets get it going]--lets re establish the constitution to its full powers again---i would pledge my life for this--i would march with might if need be--but when you have no organization--well there ya have it------ again ats moderator lets elect here on ats a person whos only job is to contact other media outlets --find their position -unite all into 1 fighting machine--head count -members willing to strike--march-----whatever the collective needs --LETS GET THIS GOING--UNITE TO FIGHT OR LAY AND DIE---WE NEED NO PARTY FOR WE HAVE EACH OTHER----------------------lets call it the FREEDOM PARTY-----IF WE NEED A NAME-----------PRAIS BE THIS COULD WORK????????

My sympathies to loyal Americans but America the beautiful was founded on Biblical principles-- and the obvious rejection of what God has done through Christ is dangerous for both nations and individuals.
Study what happened to Israel when she rejected her God in the desert and in the promised land if you want a real handle on what is happening.
If Christ shall make you free- you shall be free indeed! Only repentance can turn things around.
shalom
Yacov

Originally posted by Jnewell33
I commend the courage it took to post this mini manifesto, not because of patriotism, but rather because you took the time to actually try and come up with a solution...

Reply to JohhnyCanuck: Since you mentioned you Canadians always have a light on, I thought it fitting you acknowledge the only reason you have a light bulb is because an American invented it, and the only reason you are Canadian is because, rather than the U.S. marching up their and taking over, it's easier to just have your government serve us;

Well a Canadian invented basketball so kiss my little white arse.

And how come you keyboard kommandoes can carry on about raising an army and taking back your country, but you don't have enough poop together to tell ALL of your candidates to fly straight or they will be dumped. Isn't a universal Dump the Incumbent campaign a little easier to arrange than insurrection?

But I guess that doesn't allow you to drill out in the back forty somewhere
...and first time you fart in Church, you'll be arrested for treason.

You clowns make me laugh.

Our problems started in 1865 when we discovered we were not a voluntary association of states after all. That was the beginning of the all powerful gov. movement. Started by Republicans, but co-opted by Dems with the Wilson Admin. where we got the 16th Amendment. Then along came FDR and Social Security, then LBJ and the Great Society. Now Obama and Natioal Healthcare. Can Freedom and a social safety net exist? I hear everyday that someone has a right to get in someone else's bussiness because they pay taxes, or a higher Insurance rate because someone likes to eat a cheeseburger. Can we have Freedom without responsibility? How many people are on the Dole and don't pay their own way now? Can we agree on what Freedom is and what the responsibility of the citizen is? Treason against the Constitution has been going on since the start and I don't think there's any way to fix something that's gotten as monsterous as the Federal Gov. Prepare yourselves. True tyranny is just arond the corner. I wouldn't be a bit surprised if Obama at some point in his Admin. declares Martial Law, suspends elections and with the cooperation of Congress begins to commit true crimes against humanity. State Soverignity movement is the only thing I know that might have a chance. But State Gov. is just as corrupt. We have a saying in North Louisiana. " Flush twice. It's a long way to Baton Rouge".

"When you talk about destruction, you know you can count me out."

I just wanted to add my thoughts to this very important disscussion.
I believe that what I am going to type will fly over the heads of most on this thread. But it is a factual observation.
To begin,
I am reading littlebunnys "fealings of anger and frustration". However, in the real world, we are just going to be looked upon as right wing activists, or outright mentaly ill people.
The average American just wants to shop, spend money, raise a family, and work. And untill those very things are directly threatened. Then people are going to follow each other like sheep. And cower too any force greater then themselves. I.E. a boss at work, a police officer, or worse, a government worker.
The only real way to fix any of our problems, is too...
(1) Create a legitimate third party.
(2) Elect honest, intelligent, successfull people to represent this party.
(3) protect this party at all costs. "especially from the media."
(4) And freaking vote for this party. As well as our family members.

Oh LittleBunny..

The time is coming GorehoundLarry... when it comes will you help, will you stop talking and start doing?

Uh well, it's simple. If one was so serious about such an attempt to "bring it to the streets", you'd be out there already. But no, being behind a computer makes you feel much more comfortable.

But WE THE PEOPLE need your help, everyone's help. Stop complaining and start doing yourself. Let's get to work people, let's get to work... our Nation, our Freedoms, and our Children's Future is depending on Each of Us!

Alright, you get to work and let us know how it goes. Oh and what's your definition of work, that'll help too ya know. Also, if it involves standing around holding signs that call Obama a Socialist but yet...somehow spell Socialist incorrectly like most morons, then count me out.

What happened to REAL protesting? What happened to REAL demonstrations where we didn't give a damn what the police did? Why are we behind a computer bashing the government? They don't a flying F about us...unless we actually go out and DO something.

I'm tired of everyone trying to be that great significiant preacher on this website when they're certainly not. Time to enter reality: You can't do anything to stop the government unless you vote and even then, that does more harm than good considering the ones you (not we, I don't vote for this reason) vote in are corrupt and downright scum.

What happened to affective protesting? The internet killed it.



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reply to post by Stephen29

The only real way to fix any of our problems, is too...
(1) Create a legitimate third party.
(2) Elect honest, intelligent, successfull people to represent this party.
(3) protect this party at all costs. "especially from the media."
(4) And freaking vote for this party. As well as our family members.

You got it right on the nose.

That is the only real way to effect real change that will actually do some good. That is the way to constructively change government. A true third party. Stop voting for Republicans, stop voting for Democrats. It's obvious that these two parties aren't working for our best interest. Vote for independent honest people. People free from the clutches of special interest. Free from lobbyists. Free from corruption, and damn well hold them accountable.