WARNING: You live in a corporation... so behave yourselves!

I have noticed that a lot of people talk about the constitution, rights, freedom, etc., and if we were living on land that is truly public land, and were being governed as free Citizens dwelling, driving, or walking on pure country-owned, public land, all those arguments would be 100% valid, and undoubtedly we would not see the things we see happening today.

However... we do not live or walk on public land, no we don't. When you drive on a street, walk down a sidewalk, sit in a park, or ride a subway, you are on private property that belongs to a corporation. What corporation do you ask?

Well, corporations with titles like:

THE UNITED STATES
THE STATE OF TEXAS
THE CITY OF SAN DIEGO
THE CITY OF DALLAS

And when you go into a courtroom, you are not walking into a duly appointed, constitutionally authorized institution, you are walking into the building of a private corporation, typically named something like:

THE SUPREME COURT OF THE UNITED STATES
THE SUPREME COURT OF WASHINGTON
THE DISTRICT COURT OF LOS ANGELES

Even when you go to Washington, D.C. and walk into the Senate, you will be entering the private premises of the corporation called:

UNITED STATES SENATE

In order to see that this is true, first go to Dun and Bradstreet and look up the names above, or any other institution you thought was NOT a company:

Dun and Bradstreet

You will be amazed at what you find. And if you are looking to debunk this by claiming that Dun and Bradstreet is only listing the government institution's credit report, think again. These corporations with names like "UNITED STATES SENATE" and "SUPREME COURT OF THE UNITED STATES" appear registered in all 50 states, with addresses in each state.

Then, to further convince yourself, go to the state's online corporation website, where you can look up any registered corporation in that state. For example, let's try Texas:

Texas Corporation Search

Here you can find goodies like:

SUPREME COURT OF THE UNITED STATES, corporation number 30004867419
UNITED STATES SENATE, corporation number 15360025587
UNITED STATES DEPT OF STATE, corporation number 15302006828

Now, not all states have these government corporations in their online databases because some states only list those entities that pay tax, whereas Texas lists all entities and indicates which pay tax and which do not. Just the fact that they appear in ANY state's online corporation database is enough to establish some truth on this matter.

So, what does this mean? It means that when you walk around the USA or most other countries, you are really walking on private land, owned by corporate entities that have the legal status of "persons." That means you really have no rights whatsoever under these jurisdictions, since you are there only as a privileged employee of the corporation.... so make sure to follow all the corporate rules and behave yourselves, otherwise they will call the corporate security "police" and press charges against you for breaking the rules.

It's nice to know where you stand so that you don't operate under any false ideas of reality... welcome to the true Matrix...

reply to post by downisreallyup


If anyone cares to look for other interesting corporations in other online state registries, please make those known, as it will add more proof of this interesting topic.

Another interesting side to all of this is the way that all 50 states used to have their own constitutions that affirmed the whole concept of STATE CITIZEN, and that was how all Americans used to see themselves, as state Citizens. But then, each state began supplanting their constitutions with "new and improved" versions, stripping out lots of good things that served to protect the fundamental status of each individual.

Another really great video to watch if you get a chance is the Michael Moore documentary called The Corporation. This document is long, but it does a superb job of showing what has really happened in this world of ours... how the entire planet is well on its way to becoming 100% owned by corporate entities, each having the full rights of persons, and yet getting away with much more than any flesh-and-blood person ever could.

I am shouting from the fence of the potentially ignorant side however, wouldn't these corporations only be able to enact their corporate law upon your corporate identity by contracting with them? Aka telling them you are JOHN DOE, not John Doe the natural born man or woman, freely able to pass under common law, constitution or other law where applicable in each country. By giving your name/id they act upon your person JOHN DOE. Court room in my country is a ship used to enact maritime admirality law upon you by the captain who is the judge. Don't 'stand' for him.. or 'under stand' police charges as this is contracting.

[edit on 21/12/09 by GhostR1der]

Excellent post. Now find out the real reason WHY the world is organized in companies like this. If you dare.

Namaste,

Deckard

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Why do you think in court, they ask each and every defendent, "Do you understand these charges as they have been read to you?" Answering in the affirmative contractually binds you to accept the decisions of the court. By standing before a judge, you are implicitly agreeing to accept his "Authority" and "authority" of his court. If asked to identify yourself, state your name and specify that you are appearing as a sovereign and private individual - NEVER state that you are a citizen as, again, it implies acceptance of the corporate contract by which you are to be governed.

Finally, you will notice that the flag in the court has gold tassles surrounding it - representative of maritime admiralty law. But, did you ever notice that policemen have a gold band around the flag patch on their uniform? It signifies that they serve the corporation and enforce maritime admiralty law. Lawyers - they go by the title "Esquire", servants of maritime admiralty law! The ENTIRE system is nothing more than a corporate entity and we, the people, are chattal of the corporation.

Don't take my word for it, thousands of gallons of ink have been spilled writing about it. Look it up!

All true, I've researched the laws as well. For a simple understanding of the topic you can go to DETAX CANADA. There are a series of articles here that apply to any people in any country and the text and links outline the premise upon which government operates and enslaves us.

Cheers - Dave

[edit on 12/21.2009 by bobs_uruncle]

Originally posted by GhostR1der
I am shouting from the fence of the potentially ignorant side however, wouldn't these corporations only be able to enact their corporate law upon your corporate identity by contracting with them? Aka telling them you are JOHN DOE, not John Doe the natural born man or woman, freely able to pass under common law, constitution or other law where applicable in each country. By giving your name/id they act upon your person JOHN DOE. Court room in my country is a ship used to enact maritime admirality law upon you by the captain who is the judge. Don't 'stand' for him.. or 'under stand' police charges as this is contracting.

[edit on 21/12/09 by GhostR1der]

I remember reading somewhere that your Birth Certificate is a binding contract w/the Federal Gov. I honestly don't know what to make of those claims but it's fairly interesting.

Heres a few links after a quick search:

Forum post

Birth Cert. Monetization:

The STATE holds title to my legal person it created via my birth certificate, until Thomas-Joseph: Kennedy, the rightful owner, the holder in due course of the instrument, that is myself, reclaims/redeems it.

Strawman

As I said... I don't know what to make of it. Just putting it out there...

Originally posted by downisreallyup
It's nice to know where you stand so that you don't operate under any false ideas of reality..

It sure is - George makes some magnificent points in this clip.



Cheers.

Well I guess I was Fired. cuz, I ain't seeing a future with this corporation. do you. So how do you change jobs...? how do you fire a city- a county - a state - a federal Corporation..?
1868 was the incorporation of the corporation name The United States Corp. in london city centre ... they refused to provide evidence of this corporations existance .... but you could tell ... it was sort of like the 600lb gorilla asked a question. and they forwarded my request over to the national archives and they just treated like a joke... so, if you call them on it... this is what you should expect... and the next step would be ...?

Originally posted by Deckard666
Excellent post. Now find out the real reason WHY the world is organized in companies like this. If you dare.

Namaste,

Deckard

If that is the question that you seek read Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance by Robert Pirsig.

You must be the philosopher that questioned the wisdom of a farmer who had a bell around the neck of his bull busy turning the water wheel as to why he had the bell around the neck of the bull. The farmer replied when the bull stop working he would know because the bell would stop ringing. The Philosopher said, what if the bull stop working but keep ringing the bell. Farmer said that his bull is not a philosopher like him.
The corporations you talking about are paid by the Public funds (Taxes). Thus they are Public Property. Government is the agent of the Public. So quit confusing people with your Philosophy please. I take it that you are a law student and have no experience.

Originally posted by charlie0
You must be the philosopher that questioned the wisdom of a farmer who had a bell around the neck of his bull busy turning the water wheel as to why he had the bell around the neck of the bull. The farmer replied when the bull stop working he would know because the bell would stop ringing. The Philosopher said, what if the bull stop working but keep ringing the bell. Farmer said that his bull is not a philosopher like him.
The corporations you talking about are paid by the Public funds (Taxes). Thus they are Public Property. Government is the agent of the Public. So quit confusing people with your Philosophy please. I take it that you are a law student and have no experience.

but what is the public bound by?
=)e

Originally posted by charlie0
You must be the philosopher that questioned the wisdom of a farmer who had a bell around the neck of his bull busy turning the water wheel as to why he had the bell around the neck of the bull. The farmer replied when the bull stop working he would know because the bell would stop ringing. The Philosopher said, what if the bull stop working but keep ringing the bell. Farmer said that his bull is not a philosopher like him.
The corporations you talking about are paid by the Public funds (Taxes). Thus they are Public Property. Government is the agent of the Public. So quit confusing people with your Philosophy please. I take it that you are a law student and have no experience.

but what is the public bound by?
=)e

reply to post by charlie0

The corporations you talking about are paid by the Public funds (Taxes). Thus they are Public Property. Government is the agent of the Public. So quit confusing people with your Philosophy please. I take it that you are a law student and have no experience.

What gives you the idea that a Government that has the ability to force it's Citizens to pay illegal taxes is the property of the public? Just by observation alone one should be able to see that the Government is not acting as the agent of it's citizens.

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May I suggest that you let Larken Rose explain the real nature of Government Taxation in this linked YouTube presentation:

www.youtube.com...

Then, you can learn how Government has made you a 'plantation slave', subject to the 'harvesting' of the fruits of your labor. If you look up the definition of 'farming' in a good dictionary, you will find that it originally meant 'tax collection' from 'owned slaves'.

Download 'The Name Game Blog' free from this website: [Equally applicable to the USA as to Canada]
www.detaxcanada.org...

I'd like to pose the question...did no one else realize this was the case?

and second...you are from New Zeland...as your location says...what about there...why pick on the American system? We know about that here.

And yes...the people here are in power as far as the corporation is concerned because we do fund them. and we can refuse to do this.

The consciescness of the entire planet based on nothing but ideas.

Ideas, that is all there is.

It is your choice wether or not you want to live inside of illusion, or open the veil.

Of course we live in a "corporation".

I find it funny that people compare our so called freedoms to what we are taught and are used to.

One person may feel free to the fullest extent, while another will feel trapped.

We all behave to a certain degree within societies norm. The president can not just go on a shooting spree, nor can I.

We live in a society. Ever hear of environmental influence?

Sure, the simplest definition of a corporation is a body of people.

The U.S. code

TITLE 28 > PART VI > CHAPTER 176 > SUBCHAPTER A > § 3002

itself says:

(15) “United States” means—

(A) a Federal corporation;

Its entirely obvious that countries are incorporated unto themselves. If there was no legal framework, what would we have? Religious framework?

Yes, we would have monarchies with popes telling us who the king would be, and everyone would be burning scientists at the stake while bishops plotted from behind the throne with absolute protection.

Sure, governments are corporations, but they are in the business of running countries, not recycling electronics or selling beer (although they do have their hands in all of these areas, as regulation of the private sector is part of running a country)

Countries, states, cities, businesses, estates are all bound by legal means, and that means they are corporations treated as persons for the sake of legal procedure.

From the same title:

(10) “Person” includes a natural person (including an individual Indian), a corporation, a partnership, an unincorporated association, a trust, or an estate, or any other public or private entity, including a State or local government or an Indian tribe.

If this legal framework wasn't set up, how would you expect to sue a non-living business entity or to make a federal case against a non-living government of a country?

It would be absolutely absurd to even think about bring a case up against an entire state (who exactly is the state???, it's NOT EVEN A PERSON! YOU CAN'T BRING A CASE AGAINST A NON-PERSON IT MAKES AS MUCH SENSE AS TAKING A COKE BOTTLE TO COURT!!!)

.. so... WE MADE IT A PERSON. WE CAN TAKE A CASE AGAINST IT.

Imagine a strange world where you can actually take an area of land to court. It's called taking a state to court.

Imagine an even stranger world where you can take a body of water to court. In this world, lakes are incorporated and when you "shop" from the lake, you have to pay for each fish at a cash-register when you leave. If a gator bites you while at this lake, you can sue the lake.. but who are you really suing? You are suing the lake as a person because no single person is responsible for the gator biting you, just like no single person is responsible for you slipping in a grocery store.

You can say the guy mopping was responsible, but who hired him? He is now part of the corporation and he gave up his liability for injuring the customer. It goes back down the line and lands right smack in the middle of the fictitious entity corporation.

If we had no legal framework to operate in, we'd never see court cases like Dred Scot v. United States, Escobedo v. Illinois, Miranda v. Arizona, Everson v. Board of Education of Ewing Township...

We'd have much less rights then we have now and we wouldn't have any of the benefits or protection.

Take out your walet and look at your drivers license.

Is your name in all Caps? If so that is your corporation.

Free Masons love the word game, they have been using it for centuries.