In His Capacity as IDIOT, Al Franken Disrupts Senate

Originally posted by adifferentbreed
Kind of all a mute point now. Obama has bribed all of the liberals he needed to, so the time doesn't really matter. Al is still a tool though.

Why? What has he done wrong besides beat a Republican?

reply to post by JohnnyCanuck


Finding uncounted votes in the trunk of a car do not elections win. I personally feel he was "elected " to ensure that Obama had enough Dems in office to be filabuster proof. Just my own silly little thought.

Originally posted by Doc Velocity

Al Franken Objects to Joe Lieberman Speaking in Senate, Defies Senate Tradition, Makes a Complete ASS of Himself

Junior Senator Franken Tries to Silence Senior Senator Lieberman

Sen. Joe Lieberman just wanted an "additional moment" on the floor Thursday to finish his speech about health care. But when he asked for unanimous consent to finish his remarks, Democratic Sen. Al Franken wouldn't let him.

"In my capacity as the senator from Minnesota, I object," said Franken, who shrugged his shoulders as he was presiding over the Senate.

"Really?" Lieberman asked, flashing a grin. "Don't take it personally," as he was granted consent to include the rest of his remarks in the congressional record.

Franken didn't take it personally, leadership aides and his office said. Both said that the leadership is strictly enforcing a 10-minute speaking rule, an unusual move that is irking long-winded senators. Jim Manley, a spokesman for Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, said the objection was not directed at Lieberman, who is the source of liberal ire for his position on the health care bill.

Senator John McCain was boiling mad and immediately came to Lieberman's defense, rebuking junior Senator Franken on the spot, saying that in his 24 years in the Senate he had never seen a Senator denied his request for one more minute. "I don't know what's happening in this body," said McCain, "but it's wrong."

What's going on in the Senate, Mr. McCain, is called a socialist snow job.

— Doc Velocity

The only snow job going on here is McCain's attempt to make this seem more than it is. Here's a reminder:

In October 2002, McCain himself prevented Sen. Mark Dayton (D-MN) from finishing a speech opposing the Iraq war and Congress' move to authorize President Bush to launch military action against Iraq...Now C-SPAN has provided an explanation -- as well as the footage of McCain shutting down debate...The recovered footage shows Sen. Dayton asking for an extra 30 seconds to complete his speech. Sen. McCain's voice can be heard off-camera: "I object."

Hypocrisy, thy name is McCain. Oh, the anguish. Seems like a big deal to some when the roles are reversed.

rawstory.com...

Originally posted by adifferentbreed
reply to post by JohnnyCanuck

 

Finding uncounted votes in the trunk of a car do not elections win. I personally feel he was "elected " to ensure that Obama had enough Dems in office to be filabuster proof. Just my own silly little thought.

If that were enough to disqualify him, it would have. Lord only knows his opposition pulled out all the stops to try and overturn things...and failed. I think that if the combined might of the GOP couldn't successfully call shenanigans on him...then he might just have gotten elected fair and square.

I just want to make sure that I understand this. Franken enforced a rule that was in place and that makes him a bad guy.

McCain goes nuts and gives a big speech about how that has NEVER HAPPENED in all his time there.

Footage surfaces of McCain doing the exact same thing as Franken back in 2002.

So McCain either blatantly lied about his own actions or is not fit to serve office.

I am still missing how this makes Franken look bad.

reply to post by Lillydale


Lets not forget the strong support for Mr Wilsons "you lie" outburst during the presidents speech, and yet this is somehow an acception to conservatives.

Hypocrisies abound, but they dont care. Its whatever they can throw and whine about.

"I did not have sexual relations with that woman", they all lie........and we are actually surprised by this?

How easy it is to scare the right wingers!! You are completely bound by fear!

They scare you with 9/11 so you let them torture people.
They scared you with terrorism, so you let them spy on you.
They scare you with WMDs so you let them invade Iraq.

Now they scare you with healthcare, so you say you don't want it.

Don't you see who this helps?

Has Karl Rove proven himself to not be a master manipulator... and now he propagates against "obamacare" on Fox News.

You right wing 'b.s. truthers' are still spewing the Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity, Bill O'Reilly talking points!!!

My God, why can't you see the obvious????????

We had the GRANDSON of an ACTUAL HITLER SUPPORTER in office for eight years! The family of "NEW WORLD ORDER" spokespersons known as the Bush family.--- And you ate that up while calling people Anti-American for not drinking the Bush Kool-Aid. But now.... Now that we are talking about affordable Healthcare, the end of denying people coverage due to 'pre-existing conditions' and a strong push toward Environmentalism and accepting responsibility for our actions, that's when you see the evil??

WTF?!?!?! Brainwashed much?

reply to post by spiritualzombie

... The family of "NEW WORLD ORDER" spokespersons known as the Bush family.--- And you ate that up while calling people Anti-American for not drinking the Bush Kool-Aid. But now.... Now that we are talking about affordable Healthcare, the end of denying people coverage due to 'pre-existing conditions' and a strong push toward Environmentalism and accepting responsibility for our actions, that's when you see the evil??

EXACTLY.

Who was it again that proclaimed the coming of the NWO as our troops began marching on Kuwait? (hint: 16 Jan 1991 and again on 6 Mar)

What we need to do is focus our energy. Instead of spending so much energy fearing what Obama's intentions might be and what he might do.

Why not go after actual criminals? Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld. These guys actually did things. Things that might be considered illegal.

Warrantless wiretaps, firing of US Attorneys, manipulating the public perception of Iraq, using poor intelligence. Intelligence that was gathered by torturing prisoners beyond what was considered legal. Using a method of torture known to give false confessions. Why would Cheney and Rumsfeld authorize a form of torture known to generate false confessions? Confessions they used as proof to justify the invasion of Iraq.

What I'm trying to say is, you gotta pick your battles.

Do you go after the guy who hasn't really done anything yet, except promise affordable healthcare and a cleaner environment? Or do you go after the guys who actually committed crimes and are responsible for potentially hundreds of thousands of deaths in a con-job war.

Cheney, Rumsfeld, Bush, and many others should to go to prison for crimes committed. We the people can put them there. That's how you send the new world order a message from the people. Instead of looking to the future, look at the past eight years. They committed crimes. They should be investigated for crimes and possibly treason. That's the law. That's what's right. And it's because of what they DID, not what I fear they might do.

Originally posted by adifferentbreed
"I did not have sexual relations with that woman", they all lie........and we are actually surprised by this?

Lying about your PRIVATE PERSONAL LIFE is nothing like pretending Al Franken did the worst thing in the world for the first time ever in history in the political arena when you yourself did THE EXACT SAME THING.

This is about actual procedure in the process of running the country. If you can explain to me how lying about your personal sex life is the same, feel free and make it long and pretty.

Yes Dems lie too. That is not what this thread is about. It is about outrage at a man for enforcing inplace rules. This is about how terrible it was for him to do, mostly based on the opinion that it was so bad of a man who did the same thing himself. Big difference. The closest you come is say....The person pushing the investigation into Clinton's PERSONAL life was also cheating on his wife. Thank you for reminding me.

Originally posted by Subjective Truth
Take a good look all you progressives out in la la land. This is the idea of change they have in mind does it sit well with you? And if it does I truly feel sorry for you. The disrespect he is showing is I fear how they for the most part feel about anyone who dissents. AL is a piece of sh*t

Funny... I seem to recall people saying that dissent under Bush was treason, but now that the shoe is on the other foot, dissent is suddenly patriotic again.

Originally posted by Doc Velocity
Ever since Barack Hussein Obama's election a year ago, the Democrat Party has forced its will and agenda on the American people, stifling open debate and rushing the worst and most costly legislation through passage, driving us farther into debt than at any time in our nation's history.

Wake up. It's not just democrats who shove their will down the throats of the people. Republicans, Independents, you name it... they all force their own will. Remember the Iraq war? Did you think everyone in America was firmly behind that?

I just can't stand it when otherwise intelligent people are STILL fooled by the left/right political paradigm. Taking sides prolongs the problem!!