Proof NASA Is Trying To Cover Up The Source Of The Norway Spiral!

reply to post by Hastobemoretolife


I will concede that could be the case and hadn't considered that.

reply to post by DGFenrir


So the conical spiral was when it was functioning properly?I'll give you that.But when the third stage separated and the rocket failed would it then create a completely different but equally perfect spiral?I think not.

Here maybe this will help people get the idea of how a spiral can form.

reply to post by Phage


Another new missile, oh God, that's all we need. Why on earth do they need another new advanced missile (and then testing it, sheesh).

Has anyone on ATS seen the video of the small UFOs taking out missiles, now my gut tells me they do this, I know they do. They can take out pretty much anything they want as long as their given permission to do so.

Because your telling me Phage, I am getting off the thread now, because your the one person on ATS that grabs my attention in a major way and there is a lot of members on ATS, but you are brilliant and that's that,
Why,

Because I know these things.

Much love hon. (Now you can get embarrassed).

PS: Yes JackWestJr is female and is an admirer of the totally awesome Phage and I Don't give out accolades ever.

Off to my other forum now, see ya.

reply to post by Phage


Hrmm, the link that went to the source didn't work.

I don't know. I'm just speculating. Maybe they are testing in stages? I don't know.

reply to post by dragonridr


That reminds me of the cartoons they show in tennis matches in lieu of the actual footage to prove the line judge was correct.

[edit on 11-12-2009 by genius/idoit]

Don't be silly

I said I know that the Russians admitted they had a failed missile they launched that morning.

I did not say I know they launched one that morning.

There is a difference. Please read my list again they are simply statements of facts (knowns).

That makes no sense whatsoever. So you are saying, You know that they failed a missile launch, But you dont know if they even launched? Do you realize how much your theory defeats itself?


Anyways, Im done here.

reply to post by genius/idoit


According to some sources it failed during the third stage. The blue fume/vapor/whatever is normal. The spiral might be a leaking propellant.
And since the rocket is spinning like a gun's bullet does it creates the illusion of a spiral when something is ejected from it's side at a constant speed.

This is my own opinion.

[edit on 11/12/2009 by DGFenrir]

reply to post by Hastobemoretolife

Bulava missile hits bullseye

Published 28 November, 2008, 18:45

Russia has test fired the naval ballistic missile Bulava. It was launched from the strategic nuclear sub Dmitry Donskoy and hit its target at the Kura range in Kamchatka. It was the first successful test of the prospective weapon.

Threads as interesting as this get flooded with posts which is a good thing, but quoting everyone is a bit tedious sometimes. I will just post generally (mainly to 2cents and Phage).

I think its not a rocket.
I have read your posts and they are very intriguing, although if it is a rocket/missile, then where is the shell? I cant see any objects ejecting from it, or any solid object for that matter.

Like a plane, wheres the blackbox...wheres the shell/cartridge? Why didn't we see anything fall from it once the spiral stopped? Why is the spiral on both occasions so similar yet that technology apparently didn't exist?

If Russia is testing out an anti-missile defense technology, then an apparent failed missile would be a success.

Heck, they might even want to do it again just to see if they could get two hits in a row.


[edit on 11-12-2009 by Exuberant1]

reply to post by the_denv

Any remnants are in the White Sea or Kamchatka. The Russians are not going to display them.


[edit on 12/11/2009 by Phage]

Originally posted by the_denv
Threads as interesting as this get flooded with posts which is a good thing, but quoting everyone is a bit tedious sometimes. I will just post generally

(mainly to 2cents and Phage).

I think its not a rocket.
I have read your posts and they are very intriguing, although if it is a rocket/missile, then where is the shell? I cant see any objects ejecting from it, or any solid object for that matter.

Like a plane, wheres the blackbox...wheres the shell/cartridge? Why didn't we see anything fall from it once the spiral stopped? Why is the spiral on both occasions so similar yet that technology apparently didn't exist?

The views that we see are far away from where the rocket was launched from. It went very very high into the atmosphere as well. I know this thread is massive but it answers all questions you presented

reply to post by DGFenrir

it creates the illusion of a spiral when something is ejected from it's side at a constant speed.

Come on you know the speed could not remain constant right?Have you ever fired a co2 powered bb gun?The pressure from the propellant or whatever being expelled would dissipate.This is a fact.

[edit on 11-12-2009 by genius/idoit]

Originally posted by Ghost in the Machine

Don't be silly

I said I know that the Russians admitted they had a failed missile they launched that morning.

I did not say I know they launched one that morning.

There is a difference. Please read my list again they are simply statements of facts (knowns).

That makes no sense whatsoever. So you are saying, You know that they failed a missile launch, But you dont know if they even launched? Do you realize how much your theory defeats itself?

Anyways, Im done here.

Man its not that hard to comprehend what I am saying They admitted to having a failed missile they launched that morning.

I know this, you know this, everyone knows this who reads it. Could they be lying? yes. Was I there? no.

So they said they launched it from the white sea which is SE of Tromso, Norway. I know this because they said it and I can read.

I know the spiral was visible in the SE that same morning. How do I know this? Because photos clearly show that the sun just over the horizon where the contrail extends up from the ground. The sun is in the SE at that time. Therefore the spiral came from the same direction as the white sea from Tromso, Norway.

I think you are trying to hard or something.

Originally posted by genius/idoit
reply to post by DGFenrir

 

it creates the illusion of a spiral when something is ejected from it's side at a constant speed.

Come on you know the speed could not remain constant right?Have you ever fired a co2 powered bb gun?The pressure from the propellant or whatever being expelled would dissipate.This is a fact.

[edit on 11-12-2009 by genius/idoit]

Do you know that it is possible to supply fuel at a constant speed?

Come on guys.

The spiral was directly east of Tromsø, and that puts right in the midle of the possible intended flightpath as shown on the map posted earlier.

If was over Norwegian territory. shouldnt I've been able to hear it?

And I see Obama is mentioned alot, he didnt arrive until 24hrs 25 min later....

This could also be a test for some new sprayer. A biological weapon. By the looks of it, if that white stuff was a biological agent it sure would be dispersed well. Russia never stopped making biological weapons even after treaties were signed. Just another angle to this thing.

Phage, '___'omino:

So the contents are floating somewhere in the sea? It makes sense, as much as we all want it to be a wormhole, in reality it could just very well be a missile.

...Has anyone canceled out any microwave or electromagnetic weaponry? I see some people talk about the Russian H.A.A.R.P. it could be plausible.

Only way to find the answer is to try our best to debunk everything, or at least to a point where we cant and the only answer we come up with is a big "?"

reply to post by DGFenrir


I guess it depends on the type of malfunction.You are correct the speed could remain a constant but that would indicate a problem with the navigation which would still make the perfect spiral highly unlikely(possible in theory only).IMO