Tiny dots in the air wherever I look!

Took the chance today to take a look at the clear blue sky to test the theory of such things being easier to see on such a backdrop. Turns out it rang true. Now note I've always seen these myself and also have no issues with my vision. What interested my most was that upon paying closer attention to these things I noticed that I can draw my focus back towards the area near to my face rather than in the distance and actually clarify the many hundreds of little white specs which move independently of my physical vision itself, and with dynamic alterations in their heading.

I wont say this isn't a natural effect caused by the eye and its workings, but I wont go ruling out the possibility it is actually something extraneous.

As to the member linking a wiki page on the hallucination condition I'm not so sure (in my case at least) this fits the bill.

Anyhow I'll do some digging around and post again if I find anything interesting

Originally posted by EnlightenUp
reply to post by Titus7

 

That's just incredibly assine. Everything does not have a (pat) explanation derived exclusively from current knowledge. I have been checked out in many ways and there is nothing wrong, so your vainglorious sputtering does not apply in my case. Why is there a whole other breed of human that just cannot and utterly will not comprehend that experience exists that is outside their sphere of awarness that is not inherently pathological? Spiritual work produces strange experience as a matter of course. That's just how it is.

What I will agree with is ruling out some kind of eye, nerve or brain issue just to be safe. Better to catch problems early on.

Whatever the explanation, I promise you it's not some "I'm super special and can see energy" thing.
I see it too, mind you. And sometimes little bits of light.
And I can hear a constant ringing (Tinnitus).
And I get random shooting pains at random in small areas, like sometimes the back of my thumb or the corner of my hand or wherever it happens.
It's likely a neurological thing. Noise across receptors and all that.
If you stare, the "fuzz" becomes much more visible.

As the vitreous gel fills the inside of the back of the eye, it presses against and actually attaches to the retina. Over time, the vitreous becomes more liquefied in the center. This sometimes means that the central, more watery vitreous cannot support the weight of the heavier, more peripheral vitreous gel. Vitreous gel then collapses into the central, liquefied vitreous. While this occurs, the peripheral vitreous detaches from the inner back of the eye where the retina is located. Floaters resulting from a vitreous detachment are then concentrated in the more liquid vitreous found in the interior center of the eye. More than half of all people by the time they are 80 will have had a vitreous detachment.* If you are among the 40 percent of people with PVDs who also experience light flashes, then you have about a 15 percent chance of also developing a retinal tear.**

Eye Floaters, Flashed and Dots

Originally posted by Titus7

Originally posted by EnlightenUp
reply to post by Titus7

 

That's just incredibly assine. Everything does not have a (pat) explanation derived exclusively from current knowledge. I have been checked out in many ways and there is nothing wrong, so your vainglorious sputtering does not apply in my case. Why is there a whole other breed of human that just cannot and utterly will not comprehend that experience exists that is outside their sphere of awarness that is not inherently pathological? Spiritual work produces strange experience as a matter of course. That's just how it is.

What I will agree with is ruling out some kind of eye, nerve or brain issue just to be safe. Better to catch problems early on.

Whatever the explanation, I promise you it's not some "I'm super special and can see energy" thing.
I see it too, mind you. And sometimes little bits of light.
And I can hear a constant ringing (Tinnitus).
And I get random shooting pains at random in small areas, like sometimes the back of my thumb or the corner of my hand or wherever it happens.
It's likely a neurological thing. Noise across receptors and all that.
If you stare, the "fuzz" becomes much more visible.

Your not listioning to me,

When you see energy and you see come in through your bed room door and jump on the end of your bed.
Then you feel a light weight on your feet with a cold sensation and a high pitch static noise.

This is not something you can clinicly diagnose. As this entity is alive, how much more proof do you need?

It moves, it has mass, it has temputure.

And there are such things a ghost, believe it or not.

Originally posted by Svaba

Originally posted by Titus7

Originally posted by EnlightenUp
reply to post by Titus7

 

That's just incredibly assine. Everything does not have a (pat) explanation derived exclusively from current knowledge. I have been checked out in many ways and there is nothing wrong, so your vainglorious sputtering does not apply in my case. Why is there a whole other breed of human that just cannot and utterly will not comprehend that experience exists that is outside their sphere of awarness that is not inherently pathological? Spiritual work produces strange experience as a matter of course. That's just how it is.

What I will agree with is ruling out some kind of eye, nerve or brain issue just to be safe. Better to catch problems early on.

Whatever the explanation, I promise you it's not some "I'm super special and can see energy" thing.
I see it too, mind you. And sometimes little bits of light.
And I can hear a constant ringing (Tinnitus).
And I get random shooting pains at random in small areas, like sometimes the back of my thumb or the corner of my hand or wherever it happens.
It's likely a neurological thing. Noise across receptors and all that.
If you stare, the "fuzz" becomes much more visible.

Your not listening to me,

When you see energy and you see come in through your bed room door and jump on the end of your bed.
Then you feel a light weight on your feet with a cold sensation and a high pitch static noise.

This is not something you can clinically diagnose. As this entity is alive, how much more proof do you need?

It moves, it has mass, it has temperature.

And there are such things a ghost, believe it or not.

Fixed, Fixed, and Fixed.

Anyways, hallucinations and night terrors can all seem very real.
I've had many dreams and sort of... half dreams that feel VERY real.

As for having temperature, it more so LACKS temperature, since your heat goes in to it, thus leaving you feeling cold.

And you can clinically diagnose mostly everything.
Just because you think it's real doesn't mean it is.
I mean, just look at illusions and magic.
Make you think it's real, but it isn't.

im sorry i didnt read the whole thread but just want to respond to OP

If you see these things you should go to a doctor to see hows your main blood vesels becose this can be sign of not enough oxygen getting to the brain .

for healthy people this happens too when you rise up too fast or stuff like that.

but your thingy can be tottaly diffirent

just wanted to get that off my chest.

I was going to make another thread but I thought I'd add in what I've been experiencing...

As of late I've been naturally tripping (I have done psychedelics a plethora of times but haven't recently), as in I see a shimmer to everything (like everything is kind of sparkling a bit), and I sort of feel a bit like I have on ecstasy so it's having an effect on my serotonin and dopamine. Like for example looking over at my blanket laying on my bed right now, I sort of see it crawling a bit and shimmering and I feel compelled to go and touch it (yeah I know it sounds funny lol). But I don't understand why this has been happening, I have been meditating more and such so maybe I am just experiencing some sort of ESP. When I get this trippy feeling it overwhelms my psyche at first, like just a little bit ago I started to have a panic attack but I took some deep breathes and relaxed and now I'm fine... but I'm still seeing everything shimmering and such.

Not trying to get off topic but I thought I'd share my experiences since they are effecting what I'm seeing as well.

And regarding the molecules or whatever you all are seeing, I have always had a great understanding of them (can't really explain it) but I don't really see them (although I have while on psychedelics but I can't say for sure that it was real). I think the deeper we go into our sub-consciousness and the higher we raise our awareness of our surroundings we become more enlightened beings. Everybody experiences different things and therefore everybody is having a bit of a different understanding but for the most part we can all relate to an extent.

Originally posted by Titus7

Originally posted by Svaba

Originally posted by Titus7

Originally posted by EnlightenUp
reply to post by Titus7

 

That's just incredibly assine. Everything does not have a (pat) explanation derived exclusively from current knowledge. I have been checked out in many ways and there is nothing wrong, so your vainglorious sputtering does not apply in my case. Why is there a whole other breed of human that just cannot and utterly will not comprehend that experience exists that is outside their sphere of awarness that is not inherently pathological? Spiritual work produces strange experience as a matter of course. That's just how it is.

What I will agree with is ruling out some kind of eye, nerve or brain issue just to be safe. Better to catch problems early on.

Whatever the explanation, I promise you it's not some "I'm super special and can see energy" thing.
I see it too, mind you. And sometimes little bits of light.
And I can hear a constant ringing (Tinnitus).
And I get random shooting pains at random in small areas, like sometimes the back of my thumb or the corner of my hand or wherever it happens.
It's likely a neurological thing. Noise across receptors and all that.
If you stare, the "fuzz" becomes much more visible.

Your not listening to me,

When you see energy and you see come in through your bed room door and jump on the end of your bed.
Then you feel a light weight on your feet with a cold sensation and a high pitch static noise.

This is not something you can clinically diagnose. As this entity is alive, how much more proof do you need?

It moves, it has mass, it has temperature.

And there are such things a ghost, believe it or not.

Fixed, Fixed, and Fixed.

Anyways, hallucinations and night terrors can all seem very real.
I've had many dreams and sort of... half dreams that feel VERY real.

As for having temperature, it more so LACKS temperature, since your heat goes in to it, thus leaving you feeling cold.

And you can clinically diagnose mostly everything.
Just because you think it's real doesn't mean it is.
I mean, just look at illusions and magic.
Make you think it's real, but it isn't.

No No Tripple No, I may be stubbon but your not listioning.

Originally posted by berrygurrl
This should be an interesting thread and I'm sure there's a chance that it could've been posted on ATS once before.

What i want to explore is a personal phenomena to myself. All my life since I can remember I have always seen tiny little translucent dots in the air. I can see it better in the dark or in a low lighted setting. When I was a little kid I used to tell my mother that I could see air molecules...and of course my mom would tell me otherwise thinking that I was just a strange little kid.
I've tried doing research on what I see but I've never come across an explanation.

I will tell you though that its not some sort of eye problem, it's not little black dots, and its definitely not my eyeball detaching from my retina.

I've always been a dreamer and extremely openminded. I've had many paranormal experiences and I believe this to be a gift of some sort.

I think that we all have "powers" that can't be explained and there is a reason why I (and possibly other people that see these things) have this ability.

I've tried asking my guides what it is...and the time that I did that I was laying in my bed in the dark and all of the tiny little pin like dots in the air started to slowly move like they were coming together! It freaked me out (fear always keeps me from experiencing cool things like this)! So, all of a sudden it went back to normal... I guess I missed my chance.

There are slight colors in these "dots" and I used to think that it was energy...I don't know!!!

I would love to hear what others have to say about this type of experience.

Everyone sees floaters. Possibilities include disease, blood pressure (high or low), diabetic neuropathy, leprosy, etc etc.

...or, and I know you don't want to hear this, but you're probably just a normal individual. I realize that unless someone has a special cause on ATF, some 'chip', some gold star/banana sticker they're not as special as the other tin-foil hat wearers.

Sorry for the cynicism, but it's warranted.

Originally posted by highlyoriginal
As of late I've been naturally tripping (I have done psychedelics a plethora of times but haven't recently), as in I see a shimmer to everything (like everything is kind of sparkling a bit), and I sort of feel a bit like I have on ecstasy so it's having an effect on my serotonin and dopamine. Like for example looking over at my blanket laying on my bed right now, I sort of see it crawling a bit and shimmering and I feel compelled to go and touch it (yeah I know it sounds funny lol). But I don't understand why this has been happening, I have been meditating more and such so maybe I am just experiencing some sort of ESP.

I know exactly what you mean for I too have for a long while now observed such the same. I feel that it is more about awareness rather than anything else. The more aware one becomes the more they notice, and eventually one thing leads to another and new experiences are bound to happen. I see shimmers everywhere and in all things and the shimmer can expand and collapse at will. Perhaps you would like to try an experiment?

Try to hold your hand out in front of you in a dim lit room and slowly wave it from left to right. What do you see? Now try focusing on the open space between you and your hand but not the hand itself. What do you see? Play with this technique for seconds at a time and eventually you may observe that "new" experience.

When I get this trippy feeling it overwhelms my psyche at first, like just a little bit ago I started to have a panic attack but I took some deep breathes and relaxed and now I'm fine... but I'm still seeing everything shimmering and such.

I think you are speaking of CHANGE. I know I am hesitant at first when there is change and it can take some time for me to adjust. I feel that the number 1 obstacle for the human condition may just be change. Know this change is inevitable. With that truth it really puts all things into perspective. I have been frightened many times for the fear of death (change) and it usually pulls me out of the experience temporarily. Once we embrace change then death becomes fearless and can even be anticipated.

And regarding the molecules or whatever you all are seeing, I have always had a great understanding of them (can't really explain it) but I don't really see them (although I have while on psychedelics but I can't say for sure that it was real). I think the deeper we go into our sub-consciousness and the higher we raise our awareness of our surroundings we become more enlightened beings. Everybody experiences different things and therefore everybody is having a bit of a different understanding but for the most part we can all relate to an extent.

You hit the nail on the head with this paragraph. I do not think anyone really "sees" them at all. I think the phenomenon is real and happening to the majority of us in this thread but not exactly the way we perceive. Most things are not exactly what one thinks anyways. Perhaps it is not our physical receptors/encoders that pick these dots up but rather something else entirely. Perhaps these dots are only what we perceive because we have a very limited perception, especially on this plane of existence. Perhaps there is much, much more to this experience and if one might only prod a little deeper they may truly find an answer to the Universe, or more importantly themselves.


If anyone would like to share their experiences they can message me. I have seen some unusual things in my day and I am the least bit afraid of sharing and comparing those experiences with another. It may be quite beneficial to some of us.

I too have seen a grid of small sparks in the air since I was a child. They do not follow my gaze when I move my eyes so they are not floaters. I have always believed (because of their spark like appearance) that I was seeing 'prana'.

I've experienced this too...especially when I was younger. I can see them both in the dark and in the day. I always thought it was normal. When I was little and lay in bed at night, I used to think that I could move them by waving my hands through them slowly. I've thought about it every so often and wondered if it was just my imagination, or if it really happened. I'm glad you posted this, becuase now I know that it was real. I still see them, I just kind of take it for granted and ignore it.

As I mentioned earlier and in other threads, I've seen the snow all my life.
When I was 12, I was sitting with my nephew listening to music in the dark and I mentioned the dots to him, he didn't understand what I ment and that was the first time it hit me that I was the only one who could see it.
As I grew up with the visual disturbances I never gave it much thought, but in my early 20ties it suddenly bothered me, around the same time that I had a severe DP/DR episode. For about a year I became obsessed with the visuals and that's when I found a bunch of people online who knew what I was talking about.
The first years I approached this as a health related issue, took part in research, met with neurologists for testing, etc...
What I have learned from that experience so far is that there is NO medical explenation for those symptoms at all. The visual snow, or static are not floaters and is not the 'entopic phenomena' that most people see when they look at a bright sky. In the study I took place in it showed that there is no relation with hormones or chemicals in the brain. There simply is no explenation for it at all.

After a while I started to consider more spiritual posibilities for the symptoms, but that didn't fall in good ground in the forums I attended back then, or with the neurologists, lol.
One person I knew back then went all the way to China to meet with a doctor there who said he could help him. If I remember correct it was some form of acupresure technique, with which the doc could increase and decrease his symptoms (snow) within seconds. He to left the forums and I haven't heard from him since.

Anyway, every now and then I have doubts, what if it is physical, what if there is something terribly wrong with me... what if it is spiritual, what am I supposed to do with it??

I do notice a large increase in the people reporting the same symptoms. About 10 years ago it was difficult to find one person who knew what you where talking about, these days the internet is full with people searching for an explenation. So what does the increase mean?

These days I just stare at the dots and wonder about it, see it turn into patterns, shapes and colors, the more I stare at it the more I go into a meditative state, untill I fall asleep.
Since this thread came up I've been thinking about it a lot more and yesterday I suddenly remembered something I had forgotten all about:
When I was a child, till age 10 I used to focus on the dots in bed in the dark. They facinated me and I remember that I thought of the dots as some sort of entity, in a possitive way.
I remember that I couldn't go to sleep without seeing and feeling the 'sphere' around me. When I focused on the dots they would form a large sphere with me in the middle, slowly it would become smaller untill it was just big enough to fit me in it. It gave me a safe feeling and only when I had that feeling I could close my eyes and sleep.
I think I did that till age 9 or 10... not sure why I stopped.
So yesterday I tried to achieve that again with no luck. Mabye it was just a childs imagination... but either way, when I was little I considered the dots as something very possitive in my life...
I don't remember seeing them in daylight back then, just at night.

One more thing I wonder about, let's say this isn't something physical, then why do the amount and density of the dots increase when I am feeling ill or didn't get enough sleep... most of all, why does stress affect it so much? Because that does sound like a physical symptom to me.
On the other hand, I don't think my spiritual life would be what it is if it wasn't for the 'dots', they did help me a lot in experiencing different states of awarenes. Like some mentioned: the natural trip, but all the time, 24/7.

I'm somewhere in the middle, it can go both ways from here... I just hope to found out what exactly it is one day


sorry for the typo's, didn't do a spellcheck because my browser is to slow today

I have seen the dots to on some occasions many years ago.Its like tiny dots across the sky like a grid screen on dots.The dots are all spaced the same distance apart in diamond shape spaces between.I always believed its the eye playing tricks in poor light.Its happened in poor light.Another strange optical illusion is the lights that dance at twilight.At twilight after the sun has set.If you look to where the horizon meets the sky you will see little lights dancing around in the sky just above the horizon.This is another trick of light that happens to our eyes.

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I did not read all 15 pages of a story that is nothing more than pressure on the optic nerve. As far as the occasional "light show" "sparkling worm looking moving thing" or "flashing geometric shapes", It's called an optical migraine again associated with an increase in pressure on the optic nerve.
Often shows up in people with high stress or anxiety. You may have to go to a couple of different Dr's. to verify as alot of them will have no idea of what you are talking about. On a side note the first time/several times before going to a Dr. who knew what i was talking about it scared the sh*t out me. Thought i was having a stroke.

Originally posted by Le Colonel
We probably wont figure out what they are exactly, but it is nice to chat with others that do see them.



I noticed some say they see them in the dark or at night. I only see them in the day, and it has to be a nice bright blue day. If any of you has seen stars (got hit hard) it is kinda like that, not exactly, but close. I always assumed I was witnessing the sun hitting particles at the right spot to allow me to "see" these things. They kinda appear and disappear, while others stick around longer to float around. Wierd.

Same here man. I usually only see this little luminescient orbs during the day. It's a lot easier to watch them during a clear bright day. Sometimes I can see them zooming around in almost intelligent patterns. Others will fade in and fade out while staying stationary. I don't know what the heck these things are, but I love to watch them!

Very rarely I'll see them indoors, usually out of the corner of my eye. I think they are spirits. Some people think they are little multidimensional air cleaners, sucking up all the impurities and toxins we put into our own air.

Who knows....

OMNI

Also, to all those people getting angry over people not believing you and debunking your experiences. Don't spend time arguing with them, it's a waste of energy. Instead, I just reply to people who share the same experience.

Just my $0.02

OMNI

amazing thread.
I first saw what i called "bubbles" when I was 3. Since then I have always seen them and didnt understand what it was I stopped talking about them as nobody else knew what I was talking about.
I then met my partner who sees them too. I couldnt believe it.
what I dont get is... if it is physical .. why have we seen the same ones at the same time???????????????????????????????????????????????????

ps

Originally posted by pantherstar
amazing thread.
I first saw what i called "bubbles" when I was 3. Since then I have always seen them and didnt understand what it was I stopped talking about them as nobody else knew what I was talking about.
I then met my partner who sees them too. I couldnt believe it.
what I dont get is... if it is physical .. why have we seen the same ones at the same time???????????????????????????????????????????????????

ps

Very interesting pantherstar. I would have to say hold on to your partner, because you two obviously have a rare "gift."

Hmmm I don't think these bubbles/orbs/dots are physical. I think they are in a dimension not visible to the majority of humans. I believe this because I started noticing these orbs after my spiritual awakening. After realizing there's not just 3 dimensions!

Then again... Who knows...

OMNI

Thank you so much for posting this thread!!! Honestly, i can't thank you enough. As soon as i saw the title my heart beat a little faster in excitement.

I have this too, i think everyone does if they pay attention. The craziest thing about it is, if you look at a popcorn ceiling for long enough, it starts to "wave," if you will. Maybe thats what you're talking about when you say it started "coming together."

My brother and i were discussing this, and how its sort of an untouched subject. Which is rather ironic because its constantly there. A religious friend once told me when we were young that she thought it was "little angles watching over her." This, to me, seems totally wrong, because i need something more...proven, or scientific. Plus, i don't believe in that sorta stuff.

I think, it is energy. Everything is made of energy and everything has these so called "dots." Really, its beautiful. It is truly miraculous. Except, of all the "geniuses" in the world, i don't believe they've ever payed much attention to this. I've been told that its dust. I've also been pondered if its movement of our own body, and because we're never completely still, you see the tiniest shake in everything.

But when i look at the ceiling, when i REALLY look at it, or rather, the air between it, it creates a trippy kind of motion. But i'm like you, it freaks me out. I love it, but i can only handle the most intense version for a brief moment.