Another Muslim Hijacking Dry Run?: [HOAX]

The following quote in the story destroyed it:

"In my opinion, the muslims are all getting very brave now, since they have one of their own in the white house……"

Geez... come on.

And this:

"Mr. Petruna almost got fired from his job, so he is no longer available"


But as for if it happened? Probably. We have to police our own planes guys. Remember, if you're on a plane, or place with lots of people, keep your eyes open. If someone on a plane behaves strange, do something.

If terrorists stood up on a flight I was on, I would attack THEM with every ounce of life I had to stop them.

[edit on 12/5/2009 by Pharyax]

Originally posted by jibeho
I went into the links and read the chain of letters and emails. This story is indeed chilling and should serve to open everyone's eyes a little wider. When I fly, I give everyone a second, third or even a fourth look. I find myself assessing possible threats.

I am glad these passengers stood up for themselves.

yes, i'm glad they did too. i'm a liberal democrat, but i think those middle eastern men should all be investigated by the FBI. when you get on a commercial airliner, you do what the hell the crew tells you to do with NO, NO, exceptions...period. no english, my @ss, this is universal on all american flights. if they didn't know how it works, tough s**t, learn before you board, no excuses.

Originally posted by whatukno
reply to post by downisreallyup

 

Now I'm not going to pretend there aren't any extremists out there that do want to hurt this country, I just don't think that every single Muslim you meet is out to kill you.

It's asinine and reeks of cold war paranoia.

And it is just this state that those that now control America want.
Divide and conquer. Old communist trick.
People should be talking seriously about solutions not bashing one another.

reply to post by jimmyx


Obviously you do not know the difference between a cell phone and a camera. Just like the flight attendant. These folks have become like Gestapo agents. I guess none of you all have ever been kidnapped for hours by them on the flight line due their negligent delays.

Originally posted by belowcommonknowledge

www.debbieschlussel.com...

www.debbieschlussel.com

**** UPDATE, 9:41 p.m. ET: Earlier today, I contacted Tedd Petruna, the brave passenger on AirTran Flight 297, who–with another Texan–saved the day from apparent Islamic terrorists, leaving him a voicemail message asking for confirmation of the e-mail and events below. Mr. Petruna called me back, tonight, and confirmed that he did write the e-mail below and that it’s all true. WAKE. UP. AMERICA. We are under siege. ****

(visit the link for the full news article)


Related News Links:
www.debbieschlussel.com
www.11alive.com
www.khou.com

[edit on 4-12-2009 by belowcommonknowledge]

[edit on 4-12-2009 by belowcommonknowledge]

True story or not, political correctness will be the death of this nation. I could be berated by a muzlim for my Christian beliefs and nothing would be done. However, if I called out a possible threatening muzlim on a plane I would be thrown in jail for some crime against islam or something. We all know that would be the result. Liberal Attorneys own this nation.

Pull your heads out of your a$$e$. Read the Koran, its there in Black and White - if you aren't one of them (muslim) you deserve death.

So guess what wanna-be terrorists? I'll fight you to the death on an airliner with a ball-point pen if that is what it takes. I'm not going to die because you want a bunch of underage virgins and you were too lame to live a real life here an earth.

//rant off



[edit on 5-12-2009 by ACEMANN]

[edit on 5-12-2009 by ACEMANN]

[edit on 5-12-2009 by ACEMANN]

Originally posted by JohnWorfin

Originally posted by downisreallyup
reply to post by JohnWorfin

 

What are you doing here on ATS? Really? ATS is the king of "alternative" news and conversation sites. You talk as if people here are the normal sleeping sheeple. Are you here to try and convince everyone that conspiracies don't exist, that all Muslims are peace-loving people, that Israel has no influence on U.S. policy, that all Christians are whack jobs, that 911 was caused by a few men hoping for 70 virgins, that all UFO's are swamp gas, that HAARP is just a harmless science tool, that chem trails are all just contrails, and that global warming is going to kill us all by 2012?

I hope you're getting paid well by your CIA masters!

As for what my extremely well paying CIA handlers have me doing here, I would love to tell you but then I would have to send a latin american death squad to kill you. Yes really. And no, ats is not an "alternative" news outlet, it an internet forum where conspiracies are discussed. Remember the login? or did you set your browser to "remember me" When you signed up? Where are the journalists or breaking stories that are not quotes from other sites?
As for my personal reasons for being here, I just wanted to point out a certain hypocrisy that self identified conservative folks have when it comes to "terrorism" namely that the world only suffered from terrorism at the hands of muslims and completely ignores the protestants in ireland, the born agains in america, and all of the latin american separatists who use terrorism as a tactic and are NOT muslim.
As for israel and AIPAC, its not a conspiracy, they operate in the open, thats why people in america are AWARE of the $3 to $6 BILION in "Aid" that goes to israel. It's on the books, not in a slush fund. Our politicians speak openly of the "special relationship" between the US and Israel, but you would never know that because you never read anything like news, not even to see what the "other side" is saying.
Yes, all christians are whack jobs, just like all muslims are terrorists. And on a similar note, why are you so quick to lump every muslim into a western hating jihadist yet can't seem to fathom that a bunch of those same muslims could plot to, and then hijack a few planes and then fly them into buildings? (how they came down not included).
As for the ufos, i'm sorry the probe hurt your butt so much, i will see what my cia bosses can do when the next delegate arrives from Serpo. I've never smelled a contrail before but I do suggest you look at your tiny little nation on a map, As the sea rises (you know, where all those people came to your country from because theirs is underwater now) Kiwi land will only get smaller. At least I have thousands of square MILES of land to move to when my beautiful CIA funded beachfront house subsides into the sea. How many square Kilometers does your country have?
Does that answer your question?

BTW - "911 Truthers" ARE THE WHACK-JOBS !!!

So its easier to believe a logisticaly-impossible conspiracy than believe a bunch of extreme religious goat-fckrs wanted to kill people they hate.

Ummmm, yeah...

Originally posted by Donny 4 million
reply to post by jimmyx

 

Obviously you do not know the difference between a cell phone and a camera. Just like the flight attendant. These folks have become like Gestapo agents. I guess none of you all have ever been kidnapped for hours by them on the flight line due their negligent delays.

oh..please school me on cell phones and cameras. flight agents like gestapo agents?? no problem here...i do what they tell me to do, then if i have a problem, i'll ask about it later in a calm and polite way. if i was a middle eastern man, i would learn how to be a boy scout, and ditch the macho man bulls**t while on a plane.

reply to post by belowcommonknowledge




"They were watching a porno in a cell phone"

Were they, now?

"Me and a Texan totally kicked their asses! HOOAH!"

Uh huh...

"They just happened to have a 100% complete alternative crew waiting!"

Do tell...

"And then I led all the passengers off the plane like moses marching across the red sea"

And... People are buying this? Really?

Congratulations, ATS bigots. You've been had.

If this is true, then we are in trouble.....BIG TIME.


*** Where was the air Marshall?


As for a HOAX, this is too convenient and doesn't answer the questions about the 'others' who witnesses it, the 2nd crew etc..

[edit on 6-12-2009 by edsinger]

reply to post by Pharyax


WRONG.

There have been quality interviews with enough folks confirming enough of the details . . . it is far from a hoax.

The 'officials' and organizations circling the wagons and distorting the record, brazenly lying . . . is not impressive.

I certainly would believe any of the passengers as well as the Chaplain and the other investigator before I'd believe the airline, TSA etc. etc. etc.

Thankfully, there are plenty of verified testimonies to demonstrate it's not a hoax.

Of course, paid government naysahers, stooges and shills will still insist it's a hoax.

The OP says that due to receiving disinformation, this thread is a hoax. But others say that this is not a hoax.

So is it a hoax or not?

It's time to verify the witnesses' credentials and contact them regarding this story. I noticed that some members have already started doing this, yet the stories still contradict each other.

We cannot let an allegation like this be swept under the rug just because every other news source is doing it!

its not being swept under the rug......its crap!!

WAKE UP!!

Apparently it's a hoax...

www.insideairtran.com...

After conducting additional research into this situation, we have verified, according to flight manifests (legally binding documents) that the individual that allegedly created a first-hand account of events on-board AirTran Airways flight 297, a Theodore Petruna, was never actually on-board the flight.

According to all available records, Mr. Petruna’s trip originated from Akron-Canton, Ohio (CAK) on AirTran flight 205. This flight arrived at the gate in Atlanta at 5:06 p.m. Eastern Standard Time. Flight 297, the flight which Mr. Petruna allegedly wrote a first-hand account of, originally pushed back from its gate in Atlanta at 4:40 p.m. EST, a full 26 minutes before flight 205 arrived at the gate in Atlanta making this flight connection impossible.

While Mr. Petruna was originally scheduled to begin his journey on AirTran flight 202 from CAK and connect to flight 297 in Atlanta he did not make that original flight.

OP here; just found this. Watch it and make your own judgements. This guy seems to corroborate Air Tran's claim that Ted Petruna at the very least did not engage in the heroics that his friend claims, BUT he also disagree's with Air Tran's account of the events, the handling of the situation, and their treatment of the passengers and crews. This is a guy who was on the plane who seems to have no agenda and seems very credible, and whether or not Ted Petruna was on this flight or engaged in any kind of heroics, I think that it is important to understand that something very real and very unsettling did happen and that it is absolutely cause for concern. This guys final statements about political correctness putting us all in jeopardy.

www.wsbtv.com...

Edited to add this as well...same guy, full news story

www.wsbtv.com...

[edit on 10-12-2009 by belowcommonknowledge]

[edit on 10-12-2009 by belowcommonknowledge]

Oops it happened again.

Flight 227 Denver to LA. Dec. 9th, 2009

Airlines passengers removed from flight at Denver airport

Flight 227 left DIA bound for Los Angeles nearly three hours late. It was scheduled to depart at 1:50 p.m., but ended up leaving at 4:32 p.m.

Sloan says the men were attempting to change seats with other passengers. Another passenger, who doesn't want his name used, says the men were also trying to move luggage while the plane was getting ready to push back.

Passengers tell 9NEWS all of the men looked to be "Middle Eastern," but United will not confirm the identity of the seven men.

"I have never seen flight attendants so scared in my life.

Another Flight Disrupted

seven men of Middle Eastern appearance, boarded flight 227. Two took their seats in coach, while five took their seats in the first class section of the plane. At a critical pre-flight point, the individuals appeared to act in concert with one another, changing seats and moving stowed luggage to very specific areas of the aircraft, often having to move the stowed bags of other passengers to do so. They disobeyed or otherwise ignored the admonitions of the flight attendants to remain seated.
Their behavior was so overt and so apparently choreographed, according to our sources, that the flight crew demanded the passengers be removed from the aircraft.

Following the removal of the passengers, officials brought a bomb-sniffing dogs aboard the aircraft, focusing of the first class section of the plane. Subsequent to the search that found nothing, the offending passengers were removed from the flight and rebooked on another aircraft to their destination.

Another flight disrupted.

A Second Incident Aboard a Flight to Detroit

Oops, another one.

Police: Man saying 'I want to kill Jews' removed from Miami flight

The disturbance forced a taxiing Northwest Airlines flight to turn around at Miami International Airport, according to a news release. Witnesses told investigators who boarded the plane that Asad was loud, disruptive and claimed to be Palestinian.

Authorities used a stun gun to subdue Asad on the jet bridge after he charged at an officer with fists clenched. He also chanted in a foreign language and threatened officers during a search.

The affidavit noted that alcohol didn't appear to be a factor during the incident.

The Transportation Security Administration says three of Asad's companions were also taken off the plane and questioned. The plane departed after a search.