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Originally posted by AlienChaser
I get the impression that your offence stems from the feeling that I intended to create a "we're better than you" mindset. This is not so, in any way. America has it's own police state issues, but this particular thread is not about them. It just so happens that a search revealed a mind boggling amount of nearly identical stories from women and families in the U.K.
Katie Hilperns investigative report on the issue highlights the increasing prevelance of this type of government intrusion.
You mentioned earlier that the U.K. is "probably the most socially developed and technologically integrated country on the planet". Which is precisely why attention should be called to such government involvement in freedom, or lack of choice of the people to have a private family life.
Troll.
To be fair, you are kind of correct there.. thats the way it came off to me.. but im my defense.. most threads like this on this site seem to be of that nature and generalizing is possibly the most frustrating thing ever. Apologies.
And attention should be called but not by outsiders..
Another avenue could have been to look at how the State has expanded the right to fine to now include people like Security gaurds (bouncers and the like) and hospital attendants.. which again merits the debate who should be able to decide when someone has broken the law and should be fined..
Originally posted by Wotan
Another avenue could have been to look at how the State has expanded the right to fine to now include people like Security gaurds (bouncers and the like) and hospital attendants.. which again merits the debate who should be able to decide when someone has broken the law and should be fined..
My BOLD emphasis.
Can you enlighten me on where/how ??? Hospital attendants (whatever they may be) can fine people? I have not heard of this.
Originally posted by AlienChaser
And attention should be called but not by outsiders..
This particularly bothers me!
Are we not all members of the ATS community?
Do we not all participate in threads regarding individual opinions on various situations, and the state of governments from all around the world?
Originally posted by Dermo
Have you ever been there? Doesn't sound like it.. because anyone who has wouldn't write something like this in such a blind manner.
Originally posted by Dermo
From what I can gather by the way you are writing what you are writing, you are trying to imply that the UK is completely screwed and has succumbed to some form of Orwellian system in an Authoritarian totalitarian regime that has only one goal - to control everything... and all this is based on examples that are irrelevant in relation to the issue as a whole.
Originally posted by aristocrat2
What surprises me is that it is not the entire population that is on hard drugs or boozed up to the eyes to cope with the England of Blair and Brown's Labour. Compliance is a 24/7 job, round the clock that requires one to monitor every word one says and consumes at minimum 100% of one's income.
For a middle class manager to find Communist Maoist China a welcome relief from Gordon Brown's England, err, what's wrong with this picture, people?
Originally posted by aristocrat2
In 2000, I went back for a few months. As the plane took off from Heathrow, I felt like I was escaping from some top security prison camp. The drip, drip, drip acidic erosion of liberty means that few people realisde how bad it is. Arriving back in Canada, it felt just as if someone had taken a rucksack packed with slate off my back.
www.timesonline.co.uk...
Two children considered to be at risk of abuse because they are severely obese have been removed from the protection register after scientists discovered that they carry a newly identified genetic abnormality that explains their weight.
Evidence from a ground-breaking study has convinced social workers that the children’s obesity was not caused by parental neglect or deliberate overfeeding but by a missing segment of DNA. The cases of another two children on the at-risk register have also been placed under review, after research showed them to have the same genetic deletion.