Gospel Of Judus Teaches 'Saklas & his Angels Created Adam & Eve,Not 'God'.Hence the Imperfection.

originally posted by: JohnPhoenix


That's an easy one. The Holy Spirit was there in the Beginning as well as Jesus. According to the Bible.. Jesus was there before he was born on the earth as Gods son.

Even if you discount jesus being there.. there was still the holy Spirit.. so God could have been talking to/about Him, thus "US".

[edit on 24-11-2009 by JohnPhoenix]

So, there were three Gods and not one?
What is the Holy Spirit...is it a ghost? Surely not, if 'God' was talking to or about him.
Jesus...is he a spirit or is he God's son? If so, who was his mother at the beginning, before being born on earth?

More questions than answers, in my opinion.

Sure. "Saklas" is the name of the programmer.

The gospel of Judas was found in Egypt. Egyptians worshipped many gods most of whom did not originate in Egypt. They basically worshiped any god they heard of and made up intertwined stories for it all to make sense, the book of Judas is no different. It was most likely written by an Egyptian that was part of a very twisted cult.

a reply to: JerichoGlaze

are you aware that bishop irenaeus himself specifically mentioned the gospel of judas
and that it teaches that judas alone knew the truth as no one else did?

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a reply to: fakedirt

a reply to: JerichoGlaze are you aware that bishop irenaeus himself specifically mentioned the gospel of judas and that it teaches that judas alone knew the truth as no one else did?

Irenaeus did reject this Gnostic text on several grounds which one was that the author was completely unknown and that the text was highly accepted and used by the Cainites.

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Here is the Roberts-Donaldson translation of this section from Irenaeus:
Others again declare that Cain derived his being from the Power above, and acknowledge that Esau, Korah, the Sodomites, and all such persons, are related to themselves. On this account, they add, they have been assailed by the Creator, yet no one of them has suffered injury. For Sophia was in the habit of carrying off that which belonged to her from them to herself. They declare that Judas the traitor was thoroughly acquainted with these things, and that he alone, knowing the truth as no others did, accomplished the mystery of the betrayal; by him all things, both earthly and heavenly, were thus thrown into confusion. They produce a fictitious history of this kind, which they style the Gospel of Judas.

H.-C. Puech and Beate Blatz write (New Testament Apocrypha, vol. 1, p. 387):
Dating: the Gospel of Judas was of course composed before 180, the date at which it is mentioned for the first time by Irenaeus in adv. Haer. If it is in fact a Cainite work, and if this sect - assuming it was an independent gnostic group - was constituted in part, as has sometimes been asserted, in dependence on the doctrine of Marcion, the apocryphon can scarcely have been composed before the middle of the 2nd century. This would, however, be to build on weak arguments. At most we may be inclined to suspect a date between 130 and 170 or thereabouts.
It remains to be seen whether any manuscripts to be published might correspond to the Gospel of Judas mentioned by Irenaeus of Lyons.
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One should be aware that if that one accepts this text as being of the God of Moses and Jesus then the one who accepts this cannot accept the validation of the New Testament literature as it stands today.

a reply to: Seede

I appreciate your reply seede.

may we all bathe in the light that came from the darkness.

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