Prime USDA Grade 'A' Cloned Meat: Coming to a store near you!

I got mixed feelings on this. With all the "Mad Cow" disease, H1N1 and other dangers that threaten out human existence, I'm not exactly sure if I want to be the first one in line to start eating 'Cloned' animals... Although, we have probably already started and they just haven't told us yet.

This goes for all by products of these cloned animals, such as: Meat, Milk, Eggs, etc...

Don't you think there might be a problem using hormones, genetic enhancement, cloning, feeding animals genetically engineered grain sometime in the near future?

Now... for a minute just try to think of all the additives, enhancements, preservatives that are in our every day food... Now add cloned food on top of that!

Of the 400-some cattle in Barry Pollard's herd of mostly Black Angus cattle there are 22 clones, genetic copies of some of the most productive livestock the world has ever known. Pollard, a neurosurgeon and owner of Pollard Farms, says such breeding technology is at the forefront of a new era in animal agriculture. "We're trying to stay on the very top of the heap of quality, genetically, with animals that will gain well and fatten well, produce well and reproduce well," Pollard told a reporter during a recent visit to his farm. The U.S. Food and Drug Administration in 2008 approved the sale of food from clones and their offspring, stating the products are indistinguishable from that of their non-clone counterparts. Japan, the European Union, and others have followed suit. The moves have stirred controversy about whether tinkering with nature is safe, or even ethical, prompting major food companies to swear off food products from cloned animals. But consumers are likely already eating meat and drinking milk from the offspring of clones, which are technically not clones, without even knowing it. Farmers can now use cloning and other assisted breeding technologies to breed cows that produce bigger, better steaks or massive amounts of milk, and animals that resist diseases or reproduce with clockwork precision. Premier genes can translate to improved feeding efficiency, meaning the ability to convert the least amount of feed into the most meat or milk, which results in a smaller environmental footprint.

Source: News Daily


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We shouldnt be eating meat unless it was our own raised and slaughtered or our own hunted and butchered. This whole meat under plastic at the supermarket thing is an abomination worthy of hellfire and brimstone rain.

I've been trying to find how cloned meat would be labeled and I can not. The fda is saying they're essentially the same and so don't have to be marked separately. Why not mark it as cloned and let the market decide?

I believe consumers have the right to make this decision themselves, all modified foods should be labeled appropriately.

I have mixed feelings with this.

I'm not sure if I would rather have hand selected gentic super cows "although mostly more natural" than the steroid pumped, hormone overloaded stuff we already eat..
So depending on the actual, "rules" and whether or not genitic vs hormone/steroid beef... Clones maybe bad, but, compared to what we are currently eating, do we know how bad we currently have it already?
I don't, but I have my suspicions.

Its just to much of a what "if" situation....what if grasshoppers carried machine guns...we couldn't go out doors!

While i don't think cloned meat would be more dangerous than the hormone and antibiotics laden stuff that's on the market, this just proves how greedy the meat industry is.

If they could make the cow with one hundred udders that produces chocolate flavoured milk and only feeds on its own faeces, they would. Not because the consumers asked for it, but because they want more profit for less work.

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With all the "Mad Cow" disease, H1N1 and other dangers that threaten out human existence, I'm not exactly sure if I want to be the first one in line to start eating 'Cloned' animals

Personally, I propose that we skip cloned animals and jump right ahead to eating meat that was never part of an animal.

No having to kill animals. It's grown in a lab, so it's easier to keep free from disease, it takes less space, no need to deal with acres and acres of land that smell like cow poop, no fly breeding grounds, no need for growth hormones or antibiotics...it seems all around like a better way of doing things.

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I was intrigued by this idea and have seen some experiments. are we at the stage where this is viable, or are you saying we should concentrate on getting there?

The experiments I saw, did not look appetizing.

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are we at the stage where this is viable

According to wikipedia:

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Many biologists assert that this technology is ready for commercial use and simply needs a company to back it.[

You might also read this article, in which it is stated that according to presenters at the In Vitro Meat Symposium:

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According to a new economic analysis presented at this week's In Vitro Meat Symposium in Ås, Norway, meat grown in giant tanks known as bioreactors would cost between $5,200-$5,500 a ton

Basically it sounds to me like the technology is there, it's already been done...but nobody is stepping up to build production facilities suitable for mass production. Mostly because it will be more expensive than animal meat to begin with, and there is some concern that people would be scared to eat it.



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CloneSafety.org

The Livestock Cloning Supply Chain Management Program is designed to ensure that cloned livestock are tracked and do not enter the market designated as natural (not cloned) beef.

SCMP - Supply Chain Management Program

However, it's unlikely that cloned cattle will ever see the marketplace.

Perhaps the biggest misconception about livestock cloning is that clones are animals that have been genetically modified. They are not. Clones are unaltered genetic copies. "What cloning allows some ranchers to do is replicate their best animals to achieve more consistent quality traits," says Karen Batra, a spokesperson for the National Cattlemen's Beef Association. "As breeders we're always looking for opportunities to give consumers better products. Whether it's more flavorful, less fatty, or more tender meat, consumers value that." Batra concedes that it will take a broad consumer education program to allay concerns.

I would actually be more concerned with genetically altered cattle rather than cloned cattle.

So called "genetic improvements"
King Ranch Texas

King Ranch is continuing to emphasize genetic progress in both the Santa Gertrudis and Santa Cruz cattle. For example, King Ranch is currently utilizing EPDs, DNA fingerprinting, embryo transfer, genomic selection criteria and AI to improve the Santa Gertrudis and to measure progress against their peers.

Why am I craving a Steak now?

Originally posted by SeikoThe fda is saying they're essentially the same and so don't have to be marked separately

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I believe consumers have the right to make this decision themselves, all modified foods should be labeled appropriately.

Not only is it "essentially" the same, it IS the same. It's not modified in any way, not even by evolution, so in a way it's perfectly sane to do it this way since we have no need to further modify (read: selectively mutate) cows.

So you see, it's impossible that this meat is in any way "worse" than the meat that came off the cow that was later cloned.

As for me, I'm eagerly awaiting in vitro meat. It's all the vegetarians, vegans and animal lovers fantasy come true. No more animal torture to fit our egotistical means. Just pure, lab grown and hence Safe, meat.

PS. I think I read an article somewhere about how irrational it is to be wary of "modified" food products as they've often been severely scrutinized by scientists and is therefore safer than regular food that could be contaminated by whatever.

I would imagine "cloned meat" is the next step toward GMO meat, since Monsanto and their buddies run the USDA and FDA (Monsanto's man Taylor returns to FDA in food-czar role)

I am more worried about the bills in Congress that will prevent home gardens and Organic Farms so we are stuck eating Frankenfood. The Supreme Courts interpertation of "The Commercial Clause" is very frightening in the context of these bills. The Court's opinion in Wickard v. Filburn was "[The wheat] supplies a need of the man who grew it which would otherwise be reflected by purchases in the open market. Home-grown wheat in this sense competes with wheat in commerce. " The justices unanimously ruled against the farmer. That means we have already lost our case if the USDA/FDA decides these laws pertain to home gardens.


Must read links on the Corporate take over of the US food supply:

HR 875 The food police, criminalizing organic farming and the backyard gardener, and violation of the 10th amendment

HR 2749: Food Safety's Scorched Earth Policy

Strange Martial Law via Food Control: HR 2749

The literal enslavement of the American farmer

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Originally posted by Wallachian


If they could make the cow with one hundred udders that produces chocolate flavoured milk and only feeds on its own faeces, they would. Not because the consumers asked for it, but because they want more profit for less work.

sounds like my kind of cattle!
srsly though, jsut dont eat meat, problem solved.

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jsut dont eat meat, problem solved.

I like meat. It tastes good. If I can have meat without imprisoning, torturing and killing anything to do so, I like that idea.

I'm glad I get my beef directly from a cattle ranch. I know where it's been!

Plus they don't inject them with all sorts of chemicals and hormones. Plus they are happy cows. They are let out into public land and allowed to roam most of their lives. I'd probably eat a clone of one of those cows come to think of it.

I'm sorry but once you've had all natural ranch beef you will never buy it from a supermarket ever again. That stuff is nasty in comparison.

I hunt too...

So long and thanks for all the fish!

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