The United States of America has become a Nazi Country

The United States of America has undergone a lot of changes since WWII. The domination of our politics, economy, government policies foreign and domestic, news media etc by certain individuals connected remotely, now, to Nazi Germany has brought us gradually under a situation where we are no longer a free country. The manipulation of our schools by collectivists through tax exempt foundations is documented by G. Edward Griffin. Our schools are pushing socialist thinking and dumbing down our children. Our economy has been taken over by the FED, a banking cabal that means our people no good and seems to be intent on destroying our economics. Our medical industry has been taken over by the Rockefellers, pushing medical remedies like vaccines and chem therapy & mercury & fluoride that do more harm than good and using heavy handed even gangster tactics to block any opposition. Our politics are undermined by these same people to buy the candidates of both parties, so the campaign promises are blatant lies, but discovered too late by the voters. Our military has been taken over by these same people, cleverly designing the CIA to be so secret that no one knew where the money was coming from or going and building secret bases all over the world and taking control over all of our military, incorporating WWII Nazi scientists in secret labs, with secret weapons like HAARP with concentration camps (like Jonestown) to further the Nazi agenda apparently espoused by these people, and by producing wars that drain our resources, kill our soldiers, wreck our standing w other countries not to mention self respect and create the high levels of debt that feed the above banking cabal. Our military has been taken over by this CIA, using secrecy and rank. Efforts at oversight by Congress were frustrated again and again. Laws passed against Germ Warfare were ignored. Efforts to probe into CIA wrong doing were sabotaged, many witnesses dying. If you look into MKUltra you will find traficking in minors for sexual purposes and cover up murders including Clinton exbodyguards, people being tortured and murdered, things like Jonestown where mass murders are perpetuated and covered up by these people. These people used their extensive organization to stage an elaborate deception involving the ramming of airplanes into buildings built by the Rockefellers that were apparently demolished with nanothermite, also an aircraft of sorts hit the Pentagon and killed people. These people used this deception to gut our Constitution and break our laws to substitute the law of force for the rule of law. We are now in a jungle, people with rose colored glasses living in a fantasy world by carefully not seeing what is just below the surface.
I think it is reasonable to state that our country has been taken over by bona fida Nazis and we've lost it.

[edit on 6-11-2009 by m khan]

Welcome to the Fourth Reich my friend! I quite agree with your postulate, we did in fact import many nazis into America after WW2. fascism didn't die with WW2, it put on a three-piece suit and exploited corporate law to coerce America into it's current decrepit state. I'm not expecting it to get any better until things get much worse. The third american revolution is brewing right now.

I agree that the U.S. has indeed become something of a Fascist country. And it did import Nazi's into the country after the end of World War II, Werner Von Braun and Klaus Barbie being among the most infamous of them. The tax exempt foundations do fund a lot of the groups on the so called right and left, which help keep the people divided. They control the Corporations which dominate the economic, social, and political structures within the U.S. and much of the rest of the world. And while many people in this country are disgusted with the way things are being run, many are not willing to get off their backsides to do anything about it. They are what I refer to as "sheep', because they will be willingly led by the wolves to their own slaughter.

Project Paperclip my friend.

'Nuff said.

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So when you going to leave?

You have several valid points. Unfortunately, they are mixed and intermingled with some that are pure fantasy, and others which are just plain nonsensical and unfathomable.

A couple of pointers may be in order.

1) break your material into paragraphs. That by itself would make the post easier to read. An added bonus would be if it were organized in some sort of logical sequence within those paragraphs. That would greatly enhance getting across whatever it is you're trying to say, and would make it far less likely that they are just dismissed out of hand as the ravings of a lunatic by those unable or unwilling to muddle through it and try to puzzle it out.

2) Pick a few core issues and supporting facts to build the construct out of, and stick to those in support of your premise. The attempts at a Grand Unified Conspiracy Theory nearly always fall flat, mostly because some portion of it will always alienate someone, who will argue rather vehemently against it, and drain the energy from it in doing so.

What I mean by that is not to pick mutually exclusive events or evidence, and try to hammer it until it fits, as was done above. What you get then is not a Grand Unified Conspiracy Theory, as was attempted, you in actuality get an argument that EVERYONE can find something in to argue against, and it tends to get picked apart for that reason. Furthermore, those who find cause to discount any one facet of the theory will tend to discount ALL of it, on that basis.

No, these Grand Unified Conspiracy Theories never last long. The proponent gets bogged down defending the various facets until the entire edifice collapses of it's own weight.

There is a lot in your post I would agree with, but there is also much that I know to be false. Taken as a whole, the entire thing is suspect, because of the known inaccuracies and mutually exclusive facets.

I can't even argue for or against any part of it, because of the muddle of the whole.

Was that the intent? Could be. I've known a few people in my life who've made their living out of setting forth "information" for the sole purpose of promoting confusion. Sometimes it was true, sometimes false, other times half and half - but the purpose was ALWAYS to sew confusion and doubt.

I'm not saying that is your purpose, I'm saying that's how the post comes off.

Edit to add: starting off with an at least plausible basic premise, which you would then go on to support, would also assist greatly in getting your point across.

[edit on 2009/11/6 by nenothtu]

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I think you have some valid points, but in order for me to fully back you, I would like Instance and proof. But you are eeirly right on somethings.

I know what you mean. Just t oday i was stopped by a small armed
Patrol-l and they asked to see my pappers, i managed to get away Unharmed they shot my friend Grant. I am currently living with my friend Samburg. He has a part of his house behind a cabinet we live next to the Stienbergs. He buddy what is the weather like in la la land? Do
You actually believe in what you are saying or are you just suffering from mental diarrhea.

[edit on 6-11-2009 by zaiger]

Has "become"? Where were you the past 20 years?

If you cannot speak against your leaders, you're not part of a true democracy

Originally posted by zaiger
I know what you mean. Just t oday i was stopped by a small armed
Patrol-l and they asked to see my pappers, i managed to get away Unharmed they shot my friend Grant. I am currently living with my friend Samburg. He has a part of his house behind a cabinet we live next to the Stienbergs. He buddy what is the weather like in la la land? Do
You actually believe in what you are saying or are you just suffering from mental diarrhea.

[edit on 6-11-2009 by zaiger]

That was amusing! I'm still catching my breath from laughing! It's also a VERY effective example of what I was talking about in my post above, taken to extremes to make it abundantly clear that it's satirical.

Brilliant!

There even appears to be the kernel of fact to build on in the beginning, the "just today I was stopped by a small armed patrol" part. That happens ALL the time around here. local law enforcement sets up at least 3-5 random roadblocks a week, armed checkpoints asking to "see your papers" (driver's license, etc). Not so much right here, where surveillance on us is pretty easy, but more in the surrounding area.

They call them "sobriety checkpoints", "safety checkpoints", and other useful sounding names, but they rarely (if ever) net any drunk drivers or unsafe folks, but there are always a few cars left sitting there by the folks they haul away for whatever. Near as I can tell, it's just harassment of the citizenry. Even our drunks are sober enough to usually circumvent the check points.

After that, the post takes that off into left field, further and further from reality, accentuating the ridiculous.

Brilliant! A fine bit of satire. I salute you!

[edit on 2009/11/6 by nenothtu]

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I don't even know where to start describing how very wrong you are...
Yes were involved in a few not so nice wars but if we were really a Nazi state we'd just kill those locals or turn them into slave labor... not hand them back their country with a ton of new freedoms in place.

Know what... if you don't like how our elected leaders are running this country... stop bitching and run for office... that's how our system works you know... You can bitch all you like but unless you take action through civic precipitation things only get worse... try being part of the solution rather than just standing around kicking rocks...

Now you don't have to do any huge... I volunteer 40 hours per week, split between the national chapter Parents of Murdered Children
And our local chapter New Mexico Survivors of Homicide I know its not much but let me ask... what did you do to make life better for you and your neighbours

[edit on 6-11-2009 by DaddyBare]

I can give you one big bit of proff that you're far off track to think that American has become Nazi.

If that were true, we'd all have cool, snazzy uniforms to wear.

Everyone knows that if WW2 was a fashion show, the Nazis would have won.

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Jerico, I have to admit. The SS had the best-looking uniforms, and the Gestapo had the coolest long leather coats.

Consider their acroutements. The SS dagger is a work of art. Their dress sword was cool, and the black made all the overweight SS men look svelte and fit.

And how cool to wear those hobnail boots to complete the outfit, suitable for stomping the life out of someone, a quick wipe, and you're off to the ball.

The OP had some valide points, but then we went so far out into the woods, I lost sight of where he was going.

But you made a very good point. The Nazi SS was definately a designer's dream.

reply to post by m khan
Nonsense...if it were, you'd be dead by now, quite possibly your family, too...plain and simple.

Read some history before you make such foolish statements.

OP, have you read Jim Marrs excellent book, "The Fourth Reich"?

You'll never guess who the Fourth Reich is.

OK, maybe you will.

The US is by no means Nazi, but it's most definitely a militaristic, neo-imperialist bully with totalitarian tendencies.

Originally posted by JohnnyCanuck
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Nonsense...if it were, you'd be dead by now, quite possibly your family, too...plain and simple.

Read some history before you make such foolish statements.

I would suggest you check into the Bush family tree, and see where they came from. Check into the skull & Bones Society and the simularities to Nazis, then check into how many presidents or presidential candidates that are members of this society. If every one of the major candidates are skull & Bones members, I would safley say that S&B pretty much play a major roll in the control of our country.

Cool ongoing documentery to check out would be "the Illuminate Project". Google or youtube the videos. There are hundreds now.

Cheers

[edit on 11/18/2009 by Termite197]

Originally posted by Termite197

Originally posted by JohnnyCanuck
reply to post by m khan

 

Nonsense...if it were, you'd be dead by now, quite possibly your family, too...plain and simple.
Read some history before you make such foolish statements.

I would suggest you check into the Bush family tree, and see where they came from.

Thank you for that. I am aware of the Bush connections, and they were by no means the only ones trading with the enemy and puppetmasters/admirers of Hitler. Look into Henry Ford, for instance.

While I admit that there have been a lot of sinister policies enacted...a mite handily...in the wake of 911, I would still submit that neither the U.S. or Canada are anywhere near Nazi in governance...yet.

Now the UK has got me worried with all the CCTV and anti-social behaviour laws that seem to be issuing the police a blank cheque...but I stand to be corrected.

American LAW and GOVERNMENT is very Nazi like honestly.

And I was just mentioning this yesterday, really if you examine it we are in a totally socialist fascist state, but most Americans even most cops don't participate or enforce it so many of us myself included rarely if ever are affected by it...

In Nazi Germany the practice started of offering comforts to get people to go along with rotten things and not fight back.

In America...

We are so God damned comfortable most of us that we are too lazy to not only fight back as the world accuses us of not standing up for our lost freedoms...

But also too lazy to behave like Nazis either even though the system is in place...

Added too that our basic core values and liberal open minded social structure don't have us acting that way either, again despite the system being in place.

Some one said no one is asking for their "Papers"

But Oh yes they ARE!!!!!

If a cop pulls you over it will often be 3 squad cars, you can be stopped anywhere at anytime, you have to carry ID, you can't talk back, you can be arrested for contraband, searched, stunned (we get those stun threads everyday) Can't resist arrest or you might get years in a hole...

It's Evil...

And everyday we get a story about a heinous abuse of power by the cops...

BUT.... 95% of cops, are cool lol... They are friendly, seem like they really don't even want to be bothered... if they find some weed or whatever or other minor offenses they dump it out... let you go with a "warning"

BY our sick nazi like legal system I could have been arrested several times this year...

But the reality is most cops piss on our legal system if your cool

There are a Million examples...

They encourage neighbors to rat each other out...

Most don't

They can take your kids for any moronic reason,

they usually never do...

There's a Stupid war on drugs and every body simply practices civil disobedience and never gets caught.

They have us by the balls, the Legal system is insane, the cops have unbelievable powers the Law is omnipotent...

And it's creepingly getting worse...

But Mostly, most people never participate in this country... The Nazi setup is there but for 90% of us it hasn't yet impacted and probably wont impact our lives

Our people are.... just not Involved... It affects us in that our system has become this way because most of us don't even Vote....

But at the same time the bulk of us Ignore the government, even the cops... the same way the bulk of us ignore religion...

I mean... we have this draconian drug law society

And one time I was caught with MJ in my life... I went to court and... I swear to God the Judge, he winked at me and dismissed the case lol...

And mostly it's that way with the cops to...wink wink... on your way son...

I think...

There is a SMALL portion of America that is a Law Abiding Population

And Mostly from our Judges to Our Ghettos we are all a bunch of Criminals in this country, that it worked in Germany because the Teutonic people tend to be very orderly and well behaved.

But Americans, we are a bunch of Criminals... all of us

So you can set up a Nazi State but enforcement of it when only 5% of the population even among the police is willing to Obey the Law if they don't like it LOL is impossible.

I mean... No offense I Ignore the Law entirely anytime I don't like it... Pay no attention whatsoever.

In fact I'd say Most Americans like myself take a great pleasure in breaking the law, I do it every single day.... they can go drop dead those miserable rats, This is a free country... it might say it's not on paper but i'll wipe my rear with their paper personally, screw them lol


So we ARE Just like Nazi Germany

But it's Nazi Germany filled with Americans

And Americans by and large think the Government should go Make Love to itself anyway and never have paid a bit of attention to these pricks...

Today...

I'm going to enjoy a smoke right in front of the door of a store... Go speed around the Lake in my car, then piss in public... and they can drop dead if they have laws against any of it ...

Know what I mean?

Americans are Americans, not Germans, conformity isn't our strongest suit.

Let's Call America NAZI BY LOTTERY, because some of us are unfortunate enough to cross the path of the 1 in 10 Cop, Judge or DA that actually gives a flying poop...

And even that has us near revolution because we are a crazy lot of disobedient Liars... Even the cops who are low enough of IQ to enforce or use the power... Get lied to, by everyone LOL... LIARS On a stack of Bibles with 4 false witnesses in a Court of Law i'm a Liar in regards to Law...me and everyone else... Even if One in ten of Us participates in the Nazi scheme... they are trying to bust or get evidence from a lot of bloomin Liars... Old Ladies who will stare right at a cop and didn't see a god damn thing lol

So Yeah America is Like Nazi Germany... But AMERICANS are a bunch of Criminals and Liars so it's next to useless against anyone of us with an IQ over 100

We hate the Law, we always have...except where it's convenient for us of course... We Ain't Germans

Nothing earth shattering but my friend had an interesting weekend he shared with me. To preface, he is a laborer for a construction project and makes a paltry $7.50 an hour. On average he gets about 40.5 hours a week.

Anyway, between him and his significant other they managed to get 3 traffic violations this weekend. He got one for missing a stop sign ($250.00) and she got hit twice at once for speeding and driving with a suspended license ($500.00).

Did they do wrong, yes. but how is a guy with such a paltry wage supposed to work in $750.00 in fines into his already stressed budget. He and his other already live in his moms home and he has actively searched for gainful employment for the last 5 years to little avail.

It was bad before but of late these uniformed revenue collectors are destroying the ability of people to survive what is rapidly becoming the most devistating financial crisis we have ever known. Are they trying to hurt us, what is going on here? What happened to "Protect and Serve". I'm not really that naive but the notion of our law enforcement working "Against" us is starting to really bother me.

It has always proven true so why should I doubt "When Tyranny visits your door it does so in a uniform"