Kineses

Hydrokinesis,
pyrokinesis,
aerokinesis,
geokinesis,
and telekinesis.

the five i know are capable of being observed and mimicked by humans, but only if they are ensnared by the power of Satan or empowered by God.

Now, how does one control them if they have been given supernatural power?

How is it that so many people claim to be able to do these five, or actually CAN do at least one of the five?

If you can do one, i would appreciate your input.

but only if they are ensnared by the power of Satan or empowered by God.

Yeah...that must be it...

It's merely the manipulation of the reality around you...your mind is deeply embedded within the framework of reality down to the most fundamental level...it is a tool capable of all those abilities you listed...without the help of a God...every person has the power to consciously manipulate the reality around them...

EDIT: I once moved a pen against gravity and had a witness with me...I haven't really tried much since and I don't expect anybody to believe me...if I start practicing again and become efficient I'll be sure to post a video...but that doesn't really prove much these days either does it?

[edit on 5/11/09 by CHA0S]

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i do believe that you are wrong. control of the elements would not be that simple. and of couse you would need the help of some spiritual being, be it God Himself or Satan or a demon or angel. if you do not know where your power comes from, chances are it is demonic. and btw, all this is humanly impossible on the conscious level. it would be on the subconscious (highly unlikely) or the unconscious (yeah, that is more like it) level. i would like to see a video of you doing such an activity, but if you claim no spiritual help, i will be led to believe that you are demonically possessed. no offense intended. it is just my basic beliefs.

i, personally, have had experiences with the elements, but it was while i was possessed. now i draw my power from God, but so far am incapable of such activity until i can learn to completely rely on God to give me the power i need to survive everday and come out fighting. i have been guaranteed power, but not until i actually need it. same goes for quit a few people, but they want to rush things and, therefore, allow themselves to become possessed, and that ruins their conscious and subconscious minds. now whether you are right or wrong matters little to me; i am simply looking for an answer. can i or can i not find a willing elemental teacher that draws his or her power from God?

Originally posted by bobbyboy
Hydrokinesis,
pyrokinesis,
aerokinesis,
geokinesis,
and telekinesis.

the five i know are capable of being observed and mimicked by humans, but only if they are ensnared by the power of Satan or empowered by God.

Now, how does one control them if they have been given supernatural power?

How is it that so many people claim to be able to do these five, or actually CAN do at least one of the five?

If you can do one, i would appreciate your input.

If anyone can teach me how to do any of them, I would pray to any God you pointed out to me.

The fact remains.. they just aren't possible.

reply to post by bobbyboy



I have never seen proof of one of these, even though I have attempted to do this very often and put many hours of my time in it... without succes of course.

I guess if it is possible at all, the method would most likely be something as:
"THERE IS NO SPOON..."

reply to post by GypsK


yeah i have put way too much effort into this activity with minimal success. i have done some things, but not enough to the point to where i would say i can control it to some extent. that is the main reason i started this thread. i figured that i may be able to learn from others' experience, but it doesn't seem like many know what they are talking about.

Originally posted by HankMcCoy

Originally posted by bobbyboy
Hydrokinesis,
pyrokinesis,
aerokinesis,
geokinesis,
and telekinesis.

the five i know are capable of being observed and mimicked by humans, but only if they are ensnared by the power of Satan or empowered by God.

Now, how does one control them if they have been given supernatural power?

How is it that so many people claim to be able to do these five, or actually CAN do at least one of the five?

If you can do one, i would appreciate your input.

If anyone can teach me how to do any of them, I would pray to any God you pointed out to me.

The fact remains.. they just aren't possible.

What fact are you talking about? I have performed telekinesis by myself and with friends who could do it. Your facts are impossible facts. Learn yourself and stop being lazy i researched it and figured it out myself. Even though there are methods that can teach you, you really have to figure out what works best for you. Even so, I wont prove jack to you because even if i made an authentic video you will still believe what you want and can still make up an excuse and say its a faulty video, I also left kinesis's behind me, there very pointless. Woo-hoo i can make a paper spin. How does that help in everyday life? it doesnt. how does being able to make the water out of your faucet move in a direction help you? It doesn't, there just cool techniques to learn that help you for the most part in raising your awareness. So you say i could make money by performing this in shows? I care less for money and fame. So again it doesn't help me, and yet again many people will still believe its faulty even if its 100% authentic.

[edit on 10-11-2009 by 4stral4pprentice]

Originally posted by 4stral4pprentice

What fact are you talking about? I have performed telekinesis by myself and with friends who could do it. Your facts are impossible facts. Learn yourself and stop being lazy i researched it and figured it out myself. Even though there are methods that can teach you, you really have to figure out what works best for you. Even so, I wont prove jack to you because even if i made an authentic video you will still believe what you want and can still make up an excuse and say its a faulty video, I also left kinesis's behind me, there very pointless. Woo-hoo i can make a paper spin. How does that help in everyday life? it doesnt. how does being able to make the water out of your faucet move in a direction help you? It doesn't, there just cool techniques to learn that help you for the most part in raising your awareness. So you say i could make money by performing this in shows? I care less for money and fame. So again it doesn't help me, and yet again many people will still believe its faulty even if its 100% authentic.

[edit on 10-11-2009 by 4stral4pprentice]

You hold the keys to Telekinesis and it's of no use to you??

Not only could you be standing on the threshold of the dawn of enlightenment, but you could hold the very keys to understanding the very nature of our souls, and you are so selfish that you will not share them with the world at large?

SNIPPED CONTENT

[edit on 10-11-2009 by HankMcCoy]

Admin note: removed unnecessary commentary.

[edit on 10-11-2009 by Crakeur]

I've never seen one shred of evidence for any of those, except once. One time, years ago (and sorry this sounds like CHAOS's story, but this is coincidence) I saw a pencil move on its own in a manner that I cannot explain with conventional science. It was moving back and forth and jerking around in a very peculiar manner that I can't really describe, and probably couldn't even duplicate if I was using my hand to do it, because of the strange jerkiness of the movements.

I have no idea what caused it, and never saw it happen again before or since. I was the only person present when it happened, so no witnesses except me. If I did it, I certainly was not conscious of having done anything. I actually did try, after recovering from my surprise, to 'move' it again with my mind, but of course nothing happened. I still don't know what caused it, except that it wasn't a gust of air or anything like that, and it had been resting on a level surface all night until that point.

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so you've had experiance with at least telekinesis. was it you that actually moved it, was it something else, or do you know?

and i know how you feel with the no witnesses thing. i often don't have witnesses to my actions elementally, save for myself. however, i know that when i accidently levitated, someone saw it. he went around for weeks bragging about me to others about what had happened, seeing as to how he was the only witness.

your story is interesting, though. how long ago did this happen?

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All I know is that's what I saw. I'm normally extremely skeptical about this sort of thing. Heck, I don't even know that it was telekinesis or that I had anything to do with it; all I do know for sure is it moved in a way apparently on its own that was unnatural. This experience is why of all the paranormal things people discuss, telekinesis is one of the few I don't laugh at.

As to when this happened, I do not recall exactly, only that it was while I was a university student working a late night on homework. I'd been working on something, turned to get my pencil, and just as I was about to reach for it, it started moving on its own. At a rough guess, this was five years ago.

The pencil never actually left the surface of the table, just moved around on the table, which still leaves the possibility that some external (natural) force was acting on it, but I can't imagine what it would have been. A gust of air could have moved the pencil, but it was changing directions, stopping, and starting again, like someone had grabbed one end, shook it a bit, then stopped, grabbed the other end or the middle, and shook it again. I'm not sure how long it lasted, but I doubt it was more than 10 or 15 seconds.

When it happened, I thought maybe I'd fallen asleep while working! However, just about the only thing I am sure of is that I was awake and was not impaired mentally in any way besides being quite tired.

If it is relevant, 4 other people were in the house (my family) but likely all were asleep at the time.

[edit on 12-11-2009 by DragonsDemesne]

I don't suppose it was telekinesis but several, several years back my best friend died an unexpected death. I stayed home from work the next day. I was fixing breakfast and sat a bowl of rice on the table. I sat down and the bowl just levitated about 10 inches off the table. It stayed in the air about 10 to 15 seconds and then just lightly came back to rest on the table. My husband and I just looked at it then at each other. I said "did you see that?" and he said yes and would never talk about it again --ever. We were the only two that saw that happen, now he has passed and I am the only one that remembers it happening.

I disagree that you need a "God" to do that. It's all in your head.

Having a god in order to be able to do that is the same as having a placebo that cures you from a headache or a pain, its all in your head. You believe the pill will fix you, everyone says the pill will fix so the pill will fix you.

If you think you will make something by evocating someone, guess what! you will make it. If you think you have the power to do it and you believe in yourself, guess what!? you will do it also...

Believe in yourselfs peopleeeee! Like yourselfs as you are, and project things you want to happen and they will happen with time.

[edit on 14-11-2009 by polar]

Let's brush up on our etymology, shall we?

Kinesis; from the Greek, meaning motion.
Therefore:
Hydrokinesis means moving water (e.g. a river)
Pyrokinesis means moving fire (e.g. a brush fire)
Aerokinesis means moving air (e.g. wind)
Geokinesis means moving earth (e.g. an earthquake, unless we're talking about Earth, then it means rotation and revolution)
Telekinesis means distant motion (e.g. that car on the highway way over there)
None of the above terms have anything to do with psychic abilities.

Proper terminology, if being applied to psychic abilities, would be:
psychohydronetic
psychopyrogenic
psychoaerotic (hmmm, may psychoaerodynamic would avoid confustion)
psychogeodynamic
pyschokinetic

You see, without the "psycho". There's not much to talk about. It's the "psycho" that adds the mental aspect, not the "kinesis".


[edit on 11/14/2009 by Phage]

Originally posted by Phage

You see, without the "psycho". There's not much to talk about. It's the "psycho" that adds the mental aspect, not the "kinesis".


[edit on 11/14/2009 by Phage]

Considering they are fictional abilities, the creators of said abilities get the privilege of naming them. Stephen King coined the term Pyrokinesis and gave it's definition.

reply to post by HankMcCoy

Firestarter was/is the only King novel I can abide.

reply to post by Phage


well, ok, on the technical side, you're completely correct, but you still didn't answer the question. if you could please stick to the idea behind the thread that would be greatly appreciated