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that page tells a lot of people writing of jesus in history
just because i may be younger does not mean i am any less intelligent or that i dont do good enough research.
i found that page with a quick google search and if "in all your years" you could not find that or anything similar you are not a good researcher my friend
look at both sides of an argument before you start spouting nonsense.
go look at all the proof for the bible, and you just may find the real truth, i pray you do
evolution is not a fact, i have looked at both sides, there is plenty of problems with it as well as valid arguments, but saying it is fact is just ludicrous and stubbornness
Originally posted by resonance
reply to post by ELECTRICkoolaidZOMBIEtest
lol so you attack the threads purpose..arent we trying to learn
josephus was born 4-5 years after jesus' death.. the others 30-40 years and its obvious that they would have to talk about him after his life..
if i did a report on lets say amelia earhart, would it just be hearsay since i never met her? she existed bottom line many people did meet her
those people writing that long ago knew jesus existed they would not spread doctrine about a man knowing that people could easily just ask people who supposedly saw him that werent connected to the religion
Originally posted by Kapyong
Gday,
Originally posted by resonance
I say evolution where one species changes to another is untrue because it is.
Wrong.
There is a vast amount of clear and certain evidence that macro-evolution DOES happen.
You can read some of that evidence here:
www.talkorigins.org...
Will you check the facts or not?
Not all are facts just because someone claims they are.
You give a web page as proof?? haha here is another one with the opposite view.
www.creationsafaris.com...
Originally posted by resonance
you obviously have done no study if you do not know that many historical texts validate the bible as well as the existence of jesus
Why on earth do creationists always bring up Jesus when talking about ID / evolution?
There are NO historical texts that validate the bible.
Which is why you didn't quote any.
Originally posted by resonance
you also say evolution does not include chance? it most certainly does. evolution relies on random mutation
And also on NON-random selection, and also some other processes.
Originally posted by resonance
..the word random goes hand in hand with the chance that a profitable mutation occurs, and is carried on
We directly observe beneficial mutations occur and get passed on.
We have observed new species evolve.
www.talkorigins.org...
Do you ever plan to check the facts ?
K.
those people writing that long ago knew jesus existed they would not spread doctrine about a man knowing that people could easily just ask people who supposedly saw him that werent connected to the religion
i never showed a flawed view of science
...
but i do not like when people do not look at all the sides and consider all alternatives, that is not science
In its more restricted contemporary sense, science is a system of acquiring knowledge based on scientific method, and to the organized body of knowledge gained through such research.
1. Gather data ( observations about something that is unknown, unexplained, or new )
2. Hypothesize an explanation for those observations.
3. Deduce a consequence of that explanation (a prediction). Formulate an experiment to see if the predicted consequence is observed.
4. Wait for corroboration. If there is corroboration, go to step 3. If not, the hypothesis is falsified. Go to step 2.
Using controlled methods, scientists collect observable evidence of natural or social phenomena, record measurable data relating to the observations, and analyze this information to construct theoretical explanations of how things work.
i honestly dont get what will satisfy all of you lol its so sad
you wont count the gospel accounts or the pauline letters because they are in the bible..those are the first hand accounts and are why they are there
i provide other people in history who knew of this mans existence, who did not profit from the religion as they were from different backgrounds but that does not suffice
the evidence for the creator is everywhere..the complexity of the universe, matter, energy, life, none of its existence can be explained by science but through a creator it can and you reject it and say it is not evidence
the fact that we know so much about all these things but can not reproduce the results should show you science has it wrong, but you willingly choose not to see it that way
i pray you all will learn to stop relying on the flawed system of modern science as it hates new ideas and contrary beliefs and refuses to accept them, this is the downfall of today, not religion
Originally posted by peaceonearth
. We love fossils and evidence, but give us a reason other than your own bluff to take your storytelling scheme seriously.
www.creationsafaris.com...
[edit on 3-11-2009 by peaceonearth]
All right, Darwinists: you say evolution is a fact, and fossils are the evidence. Where is the evolution? 58 million years have gone by in your scheme, and we have the exact same families of plants today. There isn’t enough difference to concern the most fervent young-earth creationists (notice that ICR celebrated this find as confirming of a young earth and global flood).
Surely if natural selection was acting for such a huge amount of time, we should expect to see some evolution. Remember, you believe that a cow turned into a whale in less than half that time. We love fossils and evidence, but give us a reason other than your own bluff to take your storytelling scheme seriously.
www.creationsafaris.com...