Mohamed Al Fayed future President of Scotland ?

Harrods boss Mohamed Al Fayed claims the work of a 15th century historian may prove that Scotland was founded by Egyptians

The Times

The Bower history presents as fact the tale of an Egyptian princess, called Scota, a sister of Tutankhamen, who fell out with her pharaoh father and fled his wrath sailing north with her sons to a group of windswept islands off the northwest coast of Europe. Princess Scota brought with her the Stone of Destiny to this new country and, on her death, Scotland was named in her honour.

Wiki

According to the early Irish chronicle Lebor Gabála Érenn the other Scota was the daughter of an Egyptian Pharaoh named Cingris, a name found only in Irish legend. She married Niul, son of Fenius Farsaid, a Babylonian who traveled to Scythia after the collapse of the Tower of Babel. Niul was a scholar of languages, and was invited by the pharaoh to Egypt and given Scota's hand in marriage. They had a son, Goídel Glas, the eponymous ancestor of the Gaels, who created the Gaelic language by combining the best features of the 72 languages then in existence.

Other Source

According to the 17th century History of Ireland, Niul and Aaron entered into an alliance of friendship with one another. The Gaelic text further states that Gaedheal (Gael), the son of Niul and Princess Scota, was born in Egypt, at the time when Moses began to act as leader of the children of Israel. These leaders, from which the Gaelic people descended, were themselves descended from historic people. The Scythians, before the migration of Niul and Scota to Ireland and Scotland, were descended from the Biblical Ham and Japhet. Ham, was known as Thoth, (the supposed author of the Egyptian Book of the Dead, containing the original version of the Ten Commandments) to the Egyptians and Japhet was known as Iapetus II to the Greeks. The Declaration of Arbroath in 1320, announced to the world the heritage of Scotland from Scythia.

Well ... At least, the claim of Mohamed Al Fayed are not a pure invention.
What do you think of that ?
Weird, isn't it ?

It's an interesting historical theory.

But you haven't explained why that means Mr Al Fayed might become Scottish President, nor does the link to The Times newspaper. Scotland is currently part of the United Kingdom & like many other countries has Queen Elizabeth as head of state.

I'm a bit confuzzled.

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Hi Ulala.

Sorry : here is the article who explains the title of this thread :

Source

Never mind the last king of Scotland. Mohamed al-Fayed, who has declared his ambition to become the first president of an independent Scottish nation, is urging his “fellow Scots” to detach themselves from “the English and their terrible politicians”. The Egyptian-born tycoon, who owns the 65,000-acre Balnagown estate in the Highlands, said he felt great affinity with the Scots, who he claims share his ancestry. The owner of Harrods, the London store, who has been refused a British passport, said he hoped to be offered Scottish citizenship if a planned independence referendum next year leads to the break-up of the United Kingdom. However, unlike Idi Amin, the Ugandan dictator who declared himself king of Scotland, Fayed would content himself with the presidency. “You Scots have been living in a coma for too long,” he told The Sunday Times. “It is time for you to waken up and detach yourselves from the English and their terrible politicans.

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There maybe some historical fact in there, but Fayed is an idiot.

Fayed has a major grievance with The British Royal Family and the authorities who denied him British citizenship and as a result will do anything to stir up trouble.
Alas he only ends up making more of a fool of himself.

If Scotland does go independant, and I sincerely hope they don't - we should concentrate on the things that unite us rather that which divides us, then I am sure they will be able to find a more suitable Head Of State.

So let me get this right Egyptians travelled to Scotland founded a nation but some how forgot they where Egyptian built no pyramids,muffifed no people or bury tons of gold with the dead?

Not buying it really if she was that important to the formation of Scotland I would have expected monuments, stories ect would have lasted until now.

Even if it was true Al-fayed would be king of Scotland over my dead body and that of the entire Tartan Army.

I think its looking pretty likely that scotland will become independent, they are having a referendum in 2010.Thats not very far away, and i know the scottish really dislike england.even the scots living in england dont hide their dislike of the english.

I predict them gaining independence, and joining the euro.the implications are enormous, what happens to the north sea oil fields? the scots will claim them, what about faslane? our nuclear weapons systems will have to be based elswhere.what about the armed forces? all those scottish regiments?

Tony blair has mortally wounded the u.k, i dread to think what will be left of our once great nation.

hmmmm. Supposedly Princess Di was pregnant with Dody's baby. And if she would have birthed it there was a possibility it would be in line for the throne.
Well all that didn't work out. Seems that Mohammed is desperate to expand the Caliphate... in the upcoming world domination attempt afterall.

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Being a Scot I really have no dislike for the English infact I think its a shame that the English seem to have lost there national identity, could England stand together like they did uring ww2 bombing? I sadly doubt it.

That britian was once great though I don't think had anything to do with the Scots we as a nation have largely been an unwilling participant the The United Kingdom.

I would like to see independance but mostly becuase I don't think we could make it any worse than it all ready is we might even be able to better it only time will tell.

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The North Sea oilfields were developed via a taxbreak mechanism funded by British taxpayers in the 1970's. I don't think the Scots can reasonably expect that to be ignored by the English ... they paid for most of it, after all. So fair's fair.

Upon the breakup of the UK I'd reckon England will get the nuclear weapons, the Trident submarines etc. And without the facilities immediately available for those weapons, the deterrent loses credibility, becomes worthless and gets scrapped.

Scottish regiments become part of the Scottish Armed Forces. But like with the European Union, it's unclear whether Scotland at independence will even be part of NATO. They might have to apply to join both, their membership may not be automatic.

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Oh my god, does that mean we would have to put up with Zahi Hawass as the Minister for Everything being the media whore phoney baloney that he is.

And for the record, “Dia duit, conas tá tú?” I speak Irish Gaelic so I know a little about the language. There are actually 5 recognised Gaelic languages, so I don’t see how Goídel Glas invented it (implying that there is only 1 Gaelic language).

Personally, I find this alleged version of history preposterous!

Originally posted by WorldObserver
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Oh my god, does that mean we would have to put up with Zahi Hawass as the Minister for Everything being the media whore phoney baloney that he is.

And for the record, “Dia duit, conas tá tú?” I speak Irish Gaelic so I know a little about the language. There are actually 5 recognised Gaelic languages, so I don’t see how Goídel Glas invented it (implying that there is only 1 Gaelic language).

Personally, I find this alleged version of history preposterous!

I see it from an Islamic counter-terrorism point of view. From the sight of Islam it is an armbit claim that will allow muslims to walk in and take over because of their theological domination. If they convince other muslims then the force is behind this effort. Slowly Christians and Jews will be squeezed out (like Israel) because Islam takes over. This is part of the 7 phase plan that picks up momentum in 2010.

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I agree with the oil fields it more likley Scotland will try and tax the oil moving through the Country as opposed to taking control of the wells themselves.

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Total independance would be disastrous for all of us.
There are too many ties that bind.

I am a regular visitor to Glasgow and have numerous Scottish friends both living in Scotland and England.
Generally we get on very well together, apart from sporting occassions when I want Scotland to lose just as badly as they want England to lose! lol

A federal system not too dissimilar to that of Australia or even the USA may be best for all concerned.

I have worked with scotish gangs in the uk when working on ground Engineering. we was drlling bore holes around the uk to monitor ground water levels leaving a solid cased bore hole filled with sand and silica with a float inside these was placed all over scotland and wales n england for the gov. the scotish i met did not like the english and called us sasanaks. the welsh did not like the english but the scotish was worse, i believe they was from glasgow falkirk i think intotal about 40 or so men.they hated the poll tax it was all they banged onabout .
I think scotland should be independent and then it will be worth a move out of england.england has become the armpit of the world in the last 12 years in my opinion,
ps manchester sucks i live here.
dodi has a write to me miffed at the british gov and lizzies after his son and diane.

go for it scocia

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they can though, alex salmond has already filled the scottish electorates heads with dreams of becoming an energy power, one of the wealthiest countries per captita in europe, becuase the way they see it, its theirs. like when the ussr broke up all those countries inherited what was on their turf at the time.
And i wouldnt put it past our spineless ninnies running the country to let them have it.

An independent Scotland depends on the oil issue. Without control of that, it would be very hard for Scotland operate as a successful economy and independent society. Scottish health issues would make the cost of the NHS much more per head of population than in England. There would also be a whole list of things that would become much more costly per person, and taxes would inevitably rise (not necessarily a bad thing).

Without oil money the only way I see it being possible is by some creativity with regard to taxes, VAT import/export tariffs etc. In addition to this the liberal use of mega casinos, brothels, and adventure tourism (like NZ) could have massively positive effects on the economy.

Another solution to the problem of higher living costs and reduced GDP per head of population would be the legalisation of cannabis. It would not surprise me in the least if the use of hemp in all its forms could singlehandedly fund the entire economy.

Overall though I think the single most important move to ensure the success of a sustainable independent Scotland would be monetary policy reform and the abolition of a system where the government has to pay the central bank interest on money created out of thin air. The problem is that this is the one scenario that the NWO would not allow. And for anyone who balks at that idea, go away and do your research. Any country that has ever tried to break free of the banksters has very quickly found itself facing war, with the banksters funding both war machines.

As for Mr Harrods I bet he would do everything possible to avoid higher than UK Scottish taxes.

PS the majority of Scots even those living in England DO hate the English. I have scottish family in Glasgow and the western isles, and my best mate is scottish and lives on the edge of Edinburgh. I regularly go up there to stay with him. Because of this regularity his friends no longer treat me as English, my Englishness has receded and they talk freely in a way that they wouldn't with other English. Their distaste, bitterness, anger and resentment is as clear as the sun in a cloudless sky. It is also relentless. Usually I take it all without comment because if i couldn't I'd have to say bye bye. They don't even realise they are doing it. On one stay in Edinburgh I decided to mention it and everyone turned round and said i was talking (snip) and they would prove it. I was told to pick them up on it every time they displayed a bias against the English, or a xenophobic attitude. Needless to say after less than an hour in the pub I had to stop the game for fear of a lynching.

EDIT: Forgot to say, if Scotland votes for independence I'm moving up there sharpish.

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The Scots do tend to differentiate between English from North East England and Yorkshire and those from other areas of England, especially London and Southern England

Scotia was and irish queen scotland got its name fromthe irsh who setteld there thet were scots, but the word scot comes from the word scythian the scots of ireland were scythians...... please please get your history right