AP Headline from 2004? "Kenyan-born Obama"

Originally posted by Decoy
reply to post by Scooby Doo

 

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Didn't the US Supreme Court rule against furthering legal investigation of President Obama's heritage? Seems to me it was unanimous.

Decoy

No... they didn't.

Originally posted by factbeforefiction
For all of you Americans who think this is a joke - try to get a passport with the evidence that Obama has given of HIS birth, you can't.

Well I guess Obama is off the hook then, since he's not applying for a passport, just showing he's eligible for president.

The requirements for getting a certificate of live birth in Hawaii at that time did seem pretty lax, just go in and ask for one right? And give them the details of the birth you had "at home" or wherever and they would give it to you right? So yes I'd say that COLB does little to prove the birth actually occurred in Hawaii. And just listen to the "weasel words" or double-speak legalese the Hawaiian officials use when they talk about their verification of the COLB. Even their authentication of the document's authenticity is very suspicious based on the carefully chosen language they use.

The official State of Hawaii comment from state health director Dr. Chiyome Fukino:

"Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures."

He doesn't even confirm that the birth certificate says Obama was born in Hawaii, why not? That carefully worded statement raises more questions by what it DOESN'T say, than it answers.

I know the birth certificate I presented for my passport had the hospital information on it, which Obama's is lacking. And apparently nobody knows what hospital he was born at. Why is that such a mystery? there are too many unanswered questions.

And now that we see the Honolulu Advertiser rewriting a 2006 article about where Obama was born, even though I think that article was probably incorrect to begin with, it's really just too much of a "coverup" sign.

By the way I wouldn't be surprised if the headline was added by the Kenyan newspaper, why not show some Kenya pride in a Kenya paper? The other versions of that story may have had different headlines.

reply to post by Lillydale


there used to be a lot more sites about this. i have linked to them in othwer posts. but there's not much left to find. here's one i found.


$950,000 spent to hide the records

reply to post by whatukno


you don't know much about economics,huh?
maybe you should spend some time researching "monetizing the debt",the thing thats causing the death of the dolllar. or credit swaps,or mortgage default swaps.
maybe you should go to kitco.com,and figure out why they have a banner that gives you the adjustment on the price of gold due to the deflation of the dollar.
so maybe chicken little has a little more knowledge that you do. maybe he has researched this for years.
maybe he watches what they do behind your back.

and most of all,you should find out why the petrodollar is going to be detached from oil,and what happens afterward.
what is going to happen when the 5 countries involed in that spend all their dollars in the US?

maybe you better catch up before you trust the government sky!!!!!!

just a little insight for ya

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reply to post by Spectre0o0

so maybe chicken little has a little more knowledge that you do. maybe he has researched this for years.

Let's see if I understand your argument.

Foreign countries are dumping the dollar, (they have been threatening to do this for years) That's directly Obama's fault.

Now you have said this has gone on for years right? Obama has been in office now just about 10 months. Years vs 10 months? hmm Obviously all Obama's fault. Damn that guy is evil. He personally has made it his mission to destroy America long before he became president.

Don't get me wrong, I don't deny what you say about the economy is correct. But I do deny thinking it's just one mans fault.

reply to post by whatukno


like i said...catch up. this administration has spent more money than all others combined in the last 30 years.
obama was told by the chinese to stop printing money,to stop monetizing the debt or they would dump the dollar. he didn't.

they didnt tell any other admin. just this one.
when china lent us the money they did,it was in full dollar amounts. now those same dollars are worth 60 cents.
as of 2 weeks ago,barry was still printing money to buy treasury notes.
please research this yourself ,as this info is available just about anywhere.

and now he wants healthcare. the only major solvent part of our economy, to the tune of 2 or 3 trillion MORE dollars that we don't posess.
then comes cap and trade.
the systematic rape and pillage of America.

so don't you think i have the right to make sure he is legally qualified to ruin our country? i live here too.

[edit on 16-10-2009 by Spectre0o0]

Originally posted by factbeforefiction
For all of you Americans who think this is a joke - try to get a passport with the evidence that Obama has given of HIS birth, you can't.

you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.


I got my passport with my shortform birth certificate and my CA ID with the only problem being the line and the fee.

reply to post by Spectre0o0

so don't you think i have the right to make sure he is legally qualified to ruin our country? i live here too.

Let's see, you have never voted for a president in your life, hmmm, nope, no right to make sure he is legally qualified to ruin (in your scared little world) our country.

But, don't ask me, not like I did any research into the matter.

Is that your rationale to jump on this ridiculous idea of a conspiracy? That you think somehow Obama is singularly destroying America, so therefore he must obviously be from somewhere else?

That's pretty much the same argument that fat people who sue McDonald's have. "I eat craploads of this garbage a day, therefore it must be McDonald's fault I am fat. Shesh oh Pete.

reply to post by whatukno


You have never voted for a President in your life either friend.

The Electoral College votes for the President.

The Powers that Be select who those candidates are.

You get to participate in a dog and pony show. A dog and pony show that you love so much that here we have our best chance to put an end to it by proving once and for all the fraudelent nature of the system and you want to defend it by defending a man with no integrity or honor.

Obama is wll aware of this controversy and could easily put it to rest by acting with integrity and honor.

Instead he counts on fools to bog down the political debate to keep the dog and pony show firmly entrenched.

Your position is obviously about the love you have for one man, not the nation, not the truth, and not the wellbeing of the nation.

We need to root the Military Industrial Complex out of its stranglehold on the Government and the best way to do that is to expose how they fraudently control the election process.

Exposing the truth of who Obama really is will expose all of that in the process, and getting the military industrial complex out of power is the only thing that is going to save this nation.

reply to post by whatukno


dude if you can't see it ,your part of the problem. i guess the sky HAS to fall on you before you get it.
it's not my little sacred world,it's every americans.

all you NOPROOFERS just don't understand what this country used to be like. i remember what it was like to live when kennedy was prez. i guess i just have a reference point to use.

national healthcare,which is unconstitutional under the tenth amendment, will cure a lot of blindness. didn't he swear to defend the constitution?
oh thats right,they screwed up the oath of office too,i forgot.

don't it always seem to go that you don't know what you have till it's gone.....

sorry, but i'm not a socialist or a communist. and i will not bend.

[edit on 16-10-2009 by Spectre0o0]

Originally posted by factbeforefiction
For all of you Americans who think this is a joke - try to get a passport with the evidence that Obama has given of HIS birth, you can't.

Thats a lie. I dont know what country or state for that matter you hail from but I certainly had no problem presenting my birth certificate to get a passport, and it was a short form birth certificate. In fact I have never for the life of me met anybody who has actually used their long form birth certificate anymore, I dont think that many people can request their long forms these days. Heck I never even heard of a long form before this entire fiasco

I'd like some evidence from you where they specifically request a long form birth certificate for a passport. Please, provide the sources, because if anything this entire thread is filled with assumptions and speculations. So please, put the evidence where your mouth is.

SG

reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler


That's right, I haven't! No one has. We all vote for electors, not the president.

And I love how people assume that I must just lurv Obama because I don't just go with the crowd here and baa like a sheep. Sorry, but I think for myself and I'm just not gullible enough to fall for every conspiracy that falls down the poop chute.

At first when this came out I was open minded. But when I started looking into it seriously, I found out what stupidity it really is.

Funny, his grandmother was at his birth In Mombassa always thought
he was born In Kenya.

reply to post by whatukno


Gullibility is a noble virtue among Obama supporters.

Without it he would have never made it this far.

Originally posted by Spectre0o0
all you NOPROOFERS just don't understand

Us "noproofers" dont understand? What? we dont understand your lack of any solid evidence to your claims? What more is there to understand?? Your making very serious accusations regarding the president, and yet you have nothing to show for it. What more must I understand??

what this country used to be like. i remember what it was like to live when kennedy was prez.

When Kennedy was president?

Wasnt that when income rates were 70-90% for the very wealthy before the tax cuts for the wealthy and corporate elites during the 80s by Reagan?

Wasnt that before Nixon completely privatized the healthcare system in the 70's, when the the sick and poor were assisted by the government?

Wasnt that during the time in which taxes were relatively high but living conditions were high as well??

But then again lets not forget the 50's were also the time of segregation eh?

But yes thankyou for sharing with us the time of Kennedy. Things have certainly changed since that time, for better or for worse.

but i'm not a socialist or a communist.

Yet you yearn for a time of socialist healthcare and higher tax rates... and yes segregation. Im not sure as to criteria you base as "socialist" or "communist". Given your reply Im beginning to think this has nothing to do of the sort.

SG

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reply to post by Walkswithfish


Funny.



Let's see what happens next election when Obama trumps whatever the GOP decides throw into the ring.

Maybe you will get rid of him in 2016

reply to post by whatukno


And your qualifications for determining what stupid is, I am assuming are as notable as the evidence you have compiled on why you imagine it to be stupid?

The reality is that the only stupid question is one someone doesn’t ask.

What is stupid is insisting people need no answer and the person who is in the best position to supply the answer should not have to.

There is not one shred of evidence that says the question is stupid.

There are stones left unturned to completely answer the question.

The person that ultimately needs to answer the question does not want to reveal what is underneath those stones.

Some people such as your self support that he should not have to, that would make you a supporter of the irresponsible person who does not want to answer the question.

The only stupid question is the one people don’t ask.

Stupid is trying to dismiss common sense as being impractical. People routinely supply this type of information every day to the government and private employers.

There is no excuse for the person who wants to be President from supplying that information.

There is no excuse why anyone would believe he shouldn’t have to that is valid considering the nature of the question and the position.

Pretending otherwise is just that, pretending otherwise.

Obama must fear something or he would reveal it.

The people who support that he should not have to reveal it must also be scared of something.

For ultimately all he will be revealing is the absolute truth. The only people who would think that is bad are people who are afraid of the truth.

Why are you afraid of the truth?

reply to post by whatukno


Whatukno I think the real conspiracy here should be whether the Obama administration is behind this? I mean this is too convenient considering other matters... look howmuch attention this is gaining... this article?? Im beginning to suspect this is a distraction... seriously.

Originally posted by whatukno
reply to post by Walkswithfish

 

Funny.

Let's see what happens next election when Obama trumps whatever the GOP decides throw into the ring.

Maybe you will get rid of him in 2016

But of course your not an Obama supporter!

How funny. I wouldn't count on him serving out his first term frankly.

The chances of him being elected to a second term are basically zero.

Yes, from what i understand, the Occidental transcripts do list him as a foreign student, something he would have established personally.

The big question, has the Presidency been compromised? Let's see what JFK said...




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