Lady Gaga The ulluminati puppet

reply to post by jeasahtheseer


Your right, a lot of "symbolism" is just for decoration!! How many people love Gargoyles, but don't have a clue why? Or have a bell on their motorcycle or rear view mirror, but not know why that fad started? Or wear copper jewelry?

Plus, does anyone stop to think that symoblism sells?!? Sure, Jay Z uses it, and so did MJ, and so does every other Movie and Video producer out there. Any sly innuendo or small symbol to get one more dollar or viewer! Some of the viewers will be satisfied with tight leather pants, others want to see some guns, and still others want a mysterious eye in the background! Satisfy them all and you have yourself a hit!

Actually I do think the Hermaphrodite "status" does warrant discussion, although it would seem just a glib marketing point (to me)...

"Did you see that new Lady Gaga video, it's a bit racy"
"Yeah, but did you know she's a he?"
"No way!!!"
"Yeah and look at all those Illuminati references in her videos"
"Huh? What's an illuminati"?

Timing is everything and she caused a minor furore for wearing very little and being overtly sexual and then... give it a month or 2 and there'll be some other attention-grabbing headline attached to her, maybe involving drugs or a relationship with another famous person...

...and if we keep reading the celebrity gossip and focusing on anything but her music we won't realise how generic and vapid it is - there's the real conspiracy, just keeping us stupid and focused on anything but the real issues in the world AND personally, sometimes, I do just want some mindless escapism - just not that kind (for me).

To come back round to the OP, I think the article is more likely - if anything other than an attempt at vague scare-mongering is a false-flag, designed to obfuscate what may really be transpiring. I don't think the Illuminati are hiding coded messages in our media, the media is a distraction from reality - the place where we're daily being screwed.

So are you suggesting Lady Gaga's team is behind this hype to create some sort of cult following?

Look what I have found on a Lady Gaga
web site.Still wondering if there is something to this story or just a joke.
Source.
www.ladygaga.com...
Re: News Article: Lady GaGa, The Illuminati Puppet

In the comment section for that article I found this:


[I’m one of Lady GaGa’s back up dancers. I just wanted to say that this article makes a lot of sense from what I’ve seen, and have talked to her about. Everything is highly organized in her life, not by her, but by her record label, and those people she keep closest to her. She has worked herself beyound exhaustion, but she won’t stop and smell the roses (I don’t think she can do to the conditioning perhaps?) Also..while she says that her name is from Queens, “Radio GaGa” song. One time while going past her backstage room, which was cracked open. I noticed she was on the couch not as herself, acting like a little girl while saying “goo goo ga ga”, but not in a joking manner. Then the guy she was with, said something to her, I’m guessing a “trigger word” and she changed back to her “music ego”. It was odd. I never told anyone about that before. ]


WEIRD!

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reply to post by flyingfish


Not too sure if that was addressed to me...

but certainly, without a doubt, I'd love to think Lady Gaga has no intent other than to make some good music that's really full of feeling, but I'm a little more cynical - it's a money making exercise. Modern pop-music doesn't tend to have a long shelf-life and if you watch various acts, they tend to follow similar marketing patterns.

Ever notice how "stars" tend to have sex scandals when they have a new film/cd/perfume to promote? It's good to keep them in the public eye and the old adage "there's no such thing as bad publicity" really rings true.

Although I've never seen a case with illuminati imagery that I think has been inserted "real" - I'm aware of it turning up, it's becoming a part of pop-culture - as can be witnessed by Robbie Williams recent foray into Conspiracy Theory, so why not put it in there anyway? It won't be harming sales and if someone picks up on it and starts touting it as a story then it equals more publicity. If I was making some form of media/art I would probably inject some in there too, for my own personal amusement... but also in such glib, commercial times it's "fashionable".

Seemingly the Conspiracy Theory itself is now a product, think of the X-Files that really brought this to the front of a lot of peoples attentions and all the things in the media that contain elements of conspiracy, it's not just an example of an undercurrent of paranoia in Western society, it is becoming a product in itself.

reply to post by jokei


Yea I'm starting lean more to media hype than any ulluminati mind control game.What do I know, mind control has been well documented you never know who's in control.

I think the media are VERY important with regard to conspiracies, I just think they're a control mechanism for keeping us stupid, docile, buying things, not focusing on the real issues etc.

The thing I find troublesome with a lot of stories I see about Illuminati imagery in the media is why? Would the Illuminati not prefer to keep themselves hidden and if it's an attack on the illuminati - why not make it more overt?

I think it's just that a lot of things synthesise into modern (or pop) culture very easily, especially anything new that hasn't been exploited previously.

Originally posted by royspeed
You do know, don't you, that Lady Gaga has openly admitted to being a hermaphrodite?
She has both male and female genitals.
Not so 'hot' a chick now. is she?

Roy.

Do you have a source for that? I've seen a few interviews of here and it's never been discussed that I can find. Reminds me of a guy I know who claimed to know the Dr who delivered Jamie Lee Curtis and the gist of the story was that she was a "hermap-o-lite" as Cartman likes to say. I didn't believe him either and he was a real life friend.

This is a great article! Maybe you could post it on ATS?

The lightning bolt is probably the runic S. The Nazis used the runic "SS" as an emblem for the Schutzstaffel, which was the Nazi secret police.

reply to post by vcwxvwligen


Nice work!
yea your on ATS!
Get this...This is posted on BTS! why?
This topic has nothing to do with music!
Why this is here is a conspiracy!
What moderator concludes to this to music?
Answer..= clueless moderator.

Moderator must be sleeping.
Let me say nothing..... that wakes him/her.
Brrrring!brrrrring!
Click click-- Hellow?
THIS TOPIC HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH MUSIC!!

reply to post by vcwxvwligen


Just to interject - I went back to the article and checked - the lightning bolt in her logo is different to the Schutzstaffel... although similar, ie: both lightning bolts it is not the same thing, if you read through the article in the OP they are clearly quite different.

Edit to add:

I did some further reading on the guy that wrote the article and the rest of his writings on the site that are about music include Korn and Rihanna, Korn being Satanic and Rihanna also Illuminati, the more you read his stuff the flimsier and more rabid it sounds, I can't help but think the guy is a total crackpot. Of course, the deadly triumvirate of Korn, Rihanna and Lady Gaga can produce a lethal dose of Satan for your child, that can only be overcome by parenting, sitting down with your child and talking about their feelings, why they like what they like etc...

His website is a single man operation and whilst nicely formatted etc, the contents are thoroughly shoddy and seemingly have no basis other than in his opinion (conclusively so from the 3 articles I read and probably so from the many others I skimmed). There is no moderation in that site, so the guy can be as outrageous as he likes with little or no comeback and of course any criticism will no doubt be met with the old trickster favourite of "You're not looking hard enough, you'll see what I see if you do more research" - which no one can ever do enough of unless they agree with the trickster.

It's worth checking over the entire site, because frankly it's BS and dangerous BS at that, there's a massive undercurrent of anger to this guys writings which doesn't seem righteous or well directed, it actually seemed alot darker than most of the things he was criticising. The guy seems uber-paranoid, even for this place and he seeing shapes in the shadows that aren't there.

vigilantcitizen.com...

[edit on 17/9/0909 by jokei]

reply to post by jokei


Yes I understand your lingo of deadly triumvirate righteous paranoids.
What I don't get is the cover?
What does-he- gain?
Are we being played?
I wonder should I be gaga?
I believe there is much more to do with nothing then I should look away?
I think not.

Im tired of every single celebrity being 'Illuminati', even if it is true, what can we actually do about it? If you don't like the music and find it scetchy, just don't listen to it.
Another member mentioned a line from her song as- 'Don't think too much just bust that nut, I wanna take a ride on your disco stick'
Well, from what I've seen on MTV the word 'nut' is actually 'D*ck.
In any case, I have nothing against her, Some of her music is fun when you're going out. And this whole hemaphrodite crap, come on...She just played along with the media, she isn't actually one. I think she found that hillarious, I would if I were her.
Now, even though I don't mind her- If I had a daughter, I would not let her anywhere near the music videos, or music. I think it sends the wrong message to young girls who haven't grown up enough to make up their own minds.

reply to post by flyingfish


I'm not quite sure I understand your response at all, would you care to elaborate?

Possibly - and this is a guess as to what you might mean, what does he have to gain, if you mean the owner of that strange website, money, there were lots of adverts for snake oil on there.

reply to post by jokei


Yea sorry Jokei,
I got into the sauce last night and I'm not even sure what I was talking about!
I'm just a little butt hurt cause this thread was moved to BTS under music and I feel this thread IS NOT about music.
To me I'm more interested in the mind control allegations.I understand that when your in the public eye there are those that will exploit to gain,but then again this may be a good thing for publicity.Maybe this more like publicity control.Again has nothing to do with music.

Another pretty face for a BAD product!
Chopin will be spinning in his grave


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reply to post by flyingfish


Agreed with you on the move to BTS, I don't really think it's about the music either.

As for the above comment on a "pretty face" - well, I guess it's in the eye of the beholder and it wouldn't be ungentlemanly of me to comment on Lady Gaga's aesthetic quality or lack thereof...