Obama to set race relations back 30 years, planned?

Okay, I have been brewing this idea for a while now and have voiced it in a couple of threads.

I am really starting to wonder if we are missing a real conspiracy here! We all know where the power is in this nation, older white males, corporations that are largely owned by white millionaires. I don't think that is really in dispute at all.

Given that, we here on ats are well aware that big money and power was behind a Junior Senator with only two national appearances, Democratic Convention and of course Oprah, making it to the White House. Now it is considered cool by the media to blatantly accuse anyone that opposes him of racism, again, we know who owns the media!

What I see happening is a deep and dangerous divide driving into the consciousness of America. With the election of Obama the black community felt like they had "arrived" and in a sense I can understand that. All the joy and all the tears, some overblown in my estimation, are now replaced with constant allegations of racism. A feeling that whites are stealing their accomplishments is creeping in. Who is bringing this feeling to them...media and those calling every single opposition to him or policies racists or acts of racism.

Now whites, who are understandably tired and frustrated with the inequalities within the Affirmative Action policies, see their security shrinking and jobs vanishing are afraid. Yet, when they voice concerns over economic policy are accused of racism against Obama when nothing of the sort is going on. They are feeling that hating white people is all the rage now, where are they getting this from....again the controlled media and politicians!

Could this be a plan? I think it is reasonable to consider. What better way to deflect from the real cause of our ills in this nation that to start or restart huge race problems in the country. We are now a totally divided nation on just about every front. Left, right, pro choice, pro life, corporate raiders and working class, you name it the divide is getting bigger all the time.

When the real truth about Obama and his backers does come to light, I am so willing to bet that the black community is going to be past furious that they were played, with this hope crap that is nothing but con. I see a huge pulling away from the political process and just like the right has their militia groups and anti government people so too will the black community. Do you see where I am going with this.

What better smoke screen that a huge resurgence of race riots, demonstrations and ugliness. I think this is part of the plan. What do you think ats???/

Huh, interesting. Clearly, Obama made some friends in high places, he simply sped right through and became President, didn't he. I don't know that a "race war" would be the primary objective, especially when they could they could easily have another Rodney King, or even something similar to the OJ trial, and the fuse could be lit. Perhaps, a clash of races would help hide what ever else was going on.

United you will stand,divided you will fall.
You don't really think they want all you guys to unite peacefully do you?
Imagine the power they would be dealing with.

Edit to add.
The press is not helping much either so it is partly their fault.
I saw a poll on cnn that had the number of blacks approving of Obama and then they showed how many whites approved.
I thought it was a question of how many Americans approved...they are playing the races against each other for sure.

[edit on 14-9-2009 by DrumsRfun]

Divided? Yes.

Planned? No.

Racism? Maybe not.

You can't introduce racism and racial conflict into a society where it does not exist without a radical campaign of demonization of the target group, as the Nazis did with the Jews and Gypsys in WWII. Merely having people of different races occupy various normal functioning roles in a society does not produce racism.

However, what the election of Obama has done is expose the fact that the US is a racially segregated and racist society -- it has brought to the surface the underlying racism that seems to permeate US society.

I have experienced this first hand. Several of my long term relationships were with partners of a different race. In Canada and South America, no one ever seemed to take notice or care about that fact, and we certainly didn't really think of ourselves as interracial. But as soon as we were in the US, we were stared at, confronted, abused and discriminated against. There was no doubt of the reason for this behaviour, those responsible stated quite clearly, and usually obscenely, what they thought of a black/white couple.

But is the racism of the US a cause or is it an effect of something else? Canada has a similar culture, and while there are incidents of racism her and there, those are seen as deviant acts by pathetic individuals. I suspect the answer lies in the fact that what appears to be racism in the US is a manifestation of a class system that came into effect during slavery in which there was an upper class, mostly white, and a lower class, mostly black.

The upper class in the US, as with upper classes in other class based societies Ike England or India, has a sense of entitlement and efforts to eliminate the class structure are violently resisted. At the same time, the lower class is not interested in joining the upper class (although some try) but are rather interested in flipping the hierarchy and becoming the new upper class and ruling over the former perceived oppressors.

Interestingly enough, I believe we can see a similar situation in Canada and Australia with the Aboriginal populations forming an historic lower class and the immigrants (regardless of ethnicity) forming the upper class. Although I have to saw that the systematic destruction of indigenous cultures in those countries has blunted much of their ability to fight back.

So I suspect that until there is a major realignment of American society, the existing economic, political and class structures will prevent the resolution of what appears to endemic racism in the US.

PS. This is speculation and a suggestion that alternate analyses may be possible to the question posed by the OP, I make no claims of doctrinal correctness, divine inspiration or that these ideas are organically raised.




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Um.. I see what your trying to say but there still are a lot of racist white people out there that will just hate obama because hes black.

Don't try to act like it's not going on...before he was elected, this whole forum was filled with people admitting that they or their families will not vote for obama simply because he's black.

If my isp provider would get their stuff together maybe I can finally post a response.

I agree that the US has major racial issues and I really do think these are being exploited to further the division in the nation.

I too am involved in an interracial marriage and am the mother of 4 interracial children that are now adults. I have been the recipient of sneers, snide remarks, and plenty of awful stares over the years when in public with my husband and children. During the late 80's and the 90's things seemed to be getting better. Now I see things going right back to the way they were in the 70's.

I try to be the difference that I want to see in the world, I am pleased to say that in my small sphere of influence I have opened a few eyes and helped some to face their own racism and heal it.

I do think this is a planned thing being exploited by TPTB on unsuspecting and uninformed people. When major news commentators are screaming racism at every turn what are we to think?

What I see in the media is a free for all everybody hates everybody!

Black hate white while white hate black.
Everyone hate the illegals except the politicians.
Muslims hate Americans.
Jews hate Palestinians
Palestinians Hate Jews.
Some say OH, everyone hate jews.
You must not hate jews!
Hate Terrorists!
Hate Bush, Hate Obama,
Women hate men, men hate women.
Everyone hate smokers and anyone obese.

I think a big problem is a lazy media. A direct conflict, man against man, is the easiest story to tell.

We're busy hating each other and figuring out who it is cool to hate next, that we are not fighting the class war that is being waged against us.

Originally posted by buds84
Um.. I see what your trying to say but there still are a lot of racist white people out there that will just hate obama because hes black.

Don't try to act like it's not going on...before he was elected, this whole forum was filled with people admitting that they or their families will not vote for obama simply because he's black.

I absolutely agree with you on that but every opposition to him or his policies is not a racist thing.

Having an entire family that admitted they could not and did not want to have contact with my children because they could not love anything black I am more aware than most people of real racism and bigotry.

My concern is all this "false flag" racism is going to make true incidents of racist activity and behavior be looked at with great skepticism. There is just so much of this that it really looks like an agenda.

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I do agree, Red. Everything seems to be about race these days. But when that is your "hole" card, you play it as much as you can.

Not you personally, but. . . . you know what I mean. . .

I think it may have been you that remarked about the laziness of the media, I think this is evidence of that. There are so many talking points that could be used when people voice their opposition to O and his policy hopes. Instead of issues, they revert to the tired old worn race card. It is becoming the Joker of the deck. Makes me think about that Obama/Joker poster in a whole new way.

I don’t know if it’s part of a ‘plan’ or a ‘plot’, but I do know the accusations of racism are being overused, to a dangerous extent (see: The Boy who Cried Wolf), by many Obama supporters. I read the Kos and Huffington daily and I am truly getting tired of so many Liberal pundits bleating racism as an almost required part of any editorial defense regarding this administration.

While I don’t feel the President has personally done anything of this nature, the left is increasingly yelling “Racism”, almost reflexively, at any criticism of Obama’s policies. I find this very disturbing because it undermines and dilutes the impact of the word and makes it much cloudier when trying to identify true racism.

Just like those that kept chittering about Obama being a Muslim (ooooohhhh) eventually lost credibility, those that keep using racism as a core of their argument are going to find themselves on very shaky intellectual ground. It is also disturbing because it seems to imply that an increasing number of persons on the Left cannot articulate their reasons for defending this-policy-or-that and have to resort to third-grade name calling in lieu of rational debate.