A million march to US Capitol to protest against 'Obama the socialist'

Originally posted by VAPatriot
Quite simply, If you were not in attendance you have no clue as to the size of the crowd.

Plenty of people that were actually there, are claiming in the thousands and not millions.

An announcement was made, the Capitol police said we did not have a permit of the Mall and must move. The people’s response, "It's our Mall" .

Unless it's a public building and not a private business, it is actually not "your" mall.

For my self this is an issue of we have allowed the power to shift from the people to Big Gov. Many are waking up to this fact.

It's about the Constitution!

Were you also out the protesting when Bush and Cheney were violating the Constitution? Just curious???

reply to post by jfj123

Unless it's a public building and not a private business, it is actually not "your" mall.

It is public land. 'The Mall' is a public location in DC slangy referred to as the mall:

National Mall, Washington DC.

It's not a literal mall but an area of public land in the capital. So it is 'our mall.' Yours and mine.

[edit on 9/14/2009 by AshleyD]

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AshleyD,

I really appreciate your input. Just thought I would share that tidbit. I know it's trivial. But thanks.

MM

reply to post by jfj123


Wow could you be any more wrong first the estimation of crowd size by Police estimate 1.2 million in attendance. ABC News reporting crowd at 2 million So id say its safe to say the police were close they have gotten really good at judging crowd sizes.

As for the Mall area you have no clue what it is do you its not a shopping mall its the area between the white house and the capitol building. So its owned by the United States and and the district of Columbia is owned by every state so the mall is ours.

And finally you asked if they protested Bush who cares in case you aren't aware hes no longer president and as such became irrelevant,If you love him or hate him its time to let that go his presidency is history where dealing with the NOW!And trying to throw this in there as if to say if you didn't protest bush you cant protest Obamma is silly. Because you could have said if you didn't protest Clinton you have no right to protest Bush.What kinda screwed up logic is that!

Originally posted by Alxandro
So let's see.
It seems just as many people turned out to protest Obama's healthcare plan than did Obama's inauguration.
Of course I am referring to the first inauguration, remember that?
That's the one that didn't count since it required a do over.

Actually I believe about 2 million attending his inauguration whereas there were only about 60,000 protesters....not even close.

Originally posted by TypeSH2001
Why are the right-wingers bitching and moaning about government debt just now when Cheney said years ago that debt doesn't matter and the national deficit was doubled by 2006?

Why didn't the right-wing address the crashing health care system when they controlled government, other than provide $800 billion in welfare to the pharmaceutical industry for Medicare Part D (as in duh!)?

Why are the right-wingers complaining about big, out of control government when Bush/Cheney TRIPLED the size of federal government?

Why are the right-wingers upset about the increased powers of government and destruction of the Constitution when their party created and passed the (UN)Patriot act (which may ironically be used against them if their violent rhetoric and threats progress) which is designed to undermine the Constitution entirely?

Also, i've noticed that the majority of the protesters are white, middle-aged, and religious Christian - many of which put out tremendous effort to try to get their religious agenda mandated at the federal level and forced on the people. These types NEVER speak out about JOBS, EDUCATION, HEALTHCARE, or ENVIRONMENTAL issues, despise social welfare but are consistently silent on corporate welfare which dwarfs social welfare.

Forrest Gump was right on the mark, stupid is as stupid does!

We both know the answer to this...
They don't care about health care, jobs, etc... only regaining power AT ANY COST. Even at the expense of the country itself.

Originally posted by AshleyD
reply to post by jfj123

 

Unless it's a public building and not a private business, it is actually not "your" mall.

It is public land. 'The Mall' is a public location in DC slangy referred to as the mall:

National Mall, Washington DC.

It's not a literal mall but an area of public land in the capital. So it is 'our mall.' Yours and mine.

[edit on 9/14/2009 by AshleyD]

Typically malls are not government owned but privately owned businesses. Thanks for clearing that up.

Originally posted by jfj123

Originally posted by TypeSH2001
Why are the right-wingers bitching and moaning about government debt just now when Cheney said years ago that debt doesn't matter and the national deficit was doubled by 2006?

Why didn't the right-wing address the crashing health care system when they controlled government, other than provide $800 billion in welfare to the pharmaceutical industry for Medicare Part D (as in duh!)?

Why are the right-wingers complaining about big, out of control government when Bush/Cheney TRIPLED the size of federal government?

Why are the right-wingers upset about the increased powers of government and destruction of the Constitution when their party created and passed the (UN)Patriot act (which may ironically be used against them if their violent rhetoric and threats progress) which is designed to undermine the Constitution entirely?

Also, i've noticed that the majority of the protesters are white, middle-aged, and religious Christian - many of which put out tremendous effort to try to get their religious agenda mandated at the federal level and forced on the people. These types NEVER speak out about JOBS, EDUCATION, HEALTHCARE, or ENVIRONMENTAL issues, despise social welfare but are consistently silent on corporate welfare which dwarfs social welfare.

Forrest Gump was right on the mark, stupid is as stupid does!

We both know the answer to this...
They don't care about health care, jobs, etc... only regaining power AT ANY COST. Even at the expense of the country itself.

I say enough is enough. Give them full control of the country.. give Palin the presidency and Glenn Beck the VP, Rush can be sec of state and Coulter can be sec of defense. Let them have it all and let them drown in their own failure until they are finally destroyed once and for all. This is why I wanted McCain/Palin to win. Of course it is easy for me to say this because I got the hell out of the US years ago. I would rather dump myself into a meat grinder than even visit that place again.

Originally posted by dragonridr
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Wow could you be any more wrong first the estimation of crowd size by Police estimate 1.2 million in attendance. ABC News reporting crowd at 2 million So id say its safe to say the police were close they have gotten really good at judging crowd sizes.

Conservative activists, who organized a march on the U.S. Capitol today in protest of the Obama administration's health care agenda and government spending, erroneously attributed reports on the size of the crowds to ABC News.

Matt Kibbe, president of FreedomWorks, the group that organized the event, said on stage at the rally Saturday that ABC News was reporting that 1 million to 1.5 million people were in attendance.

At no time did ABC News, or its affiliates, report a number anywhere near as large. ABCNews.com reported an approximate figure of 60,000 to 70,000 protesters, attributed to the Washington, D.C., fire department. In its reports, ABC News Radio described the crowd as "tens of thousands."
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Brendan Steinhauser, spokesman for FreedomWorks, said he did not know why Kibbe cited ABC News as a source.

As a result of Kibbe's erroneous attribution, several bloggers and commenters repeated the misinformation.

In his blog, Kibbe apologized Sunday for the mistaken attribution of the crowd-size estimated to ABC News.

"With a dead IPhone, I had been shown tweets from a number of different folks behind the stage citing the ABC estimate," he wrote. "They didn't say it. I regret misrepresenting the network, as their coverage that day was fair and honest."

As for the Mall area you have no clue what it is do you its not a shopping mall its the area between the white house and the capitol building. So its owned by the United States and and the district of Columbia is owned by every state so the mall is ours.

Yes someone else already cleared that up and I thanked them.

And finally you asked if they protested Bush who cares in case you aren't aware hes no longer president and as such became irrelevant,

Are you serious? These people are protesting giving proper access to health care for all Americans.
Bush protesters were protesting criminal acts.
In short, you're protesting the fact that you don't want US citizens to have access to health care but you didn't protest the rape of America by criminals in office during the last administration. Do you understand how perverted that is?

If you love him or hate him its time to let that go his presidency is history where dealing with the NOW!

So if someone is your family was murdered, since it happened in the past, would you just let it go or would you be interested in JUSTICE?

And trying to throw this in there as if to say if you didn't protest bush you cant protest Obamma is silly.

I'm not saying that at all, I'm calling those people self serving hypocrites but not saying they can't protest as it is their right.

Because you could have said if you didn't protest Clinton you have no right to protest Bush.What kinda screwed up logic is that!

Read above. If you still don't get it, I can draw you pictures.

Originally posted by reasonable
So it's confirmed right? Biggest KKK rally ever?

No...
people off all colors were there..Im sorry if your stuck with a racist mentality..But the sad fact is the American citizen is concerned..AND if the majority are of whites then so be it..mabe the black community should do some research other then looking at things for face value..

I call for more african americans to get involved..the Brotha aint gonna get you your house paid for like some had said when he was elected..

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Im sorry if you think that being a label "republican" / "libral" / "democrat" matters to me

as your statement points out what is wrong with this planet

stick a label on it and im happy jack because im right and your wrong??

do you I honestly care for labels? really? NO i do not..

if you wish to label your self as BLACK or WHITE or any other stupid description of ones own being then so be it...

humans are the dumbest things on this planet..

and the point was about WHY they was there and the mentality of the people who showed up

Hypocrisy plays a large part. and no offense but most of the people voted for GWB twice and do not like the fact your POTUS is black

its not long ago that you could not sit on the same BUS or DRINK from the same water hole ..

this is far from a joke.. let alone the fact hes a puppet in the first place.

take your pick, but doing a rally in a street means jack unless 300 million show up and DEMAND change and kick out the slime balls who feed you trash.

until then your point is MOOT

reply to post by December_Rain


I utterly forget about the Israeli angle, thanks for reminding me, star for you. Let see what other members think about your post, I hope they don't miss it.

reply to post by AshleyD

Really- I'm sad because I see it from both sides although I am a conservative.

Hummm...so can you at least recognize the fact that Fox news and its pundits are bias? For calling tehmselves "Fair and Balanced"..surely your objectivity can see there agenda for what it is...

Just as msnbc and their pundits are easily recognizeable for there agenda and thir partisanship..

even the colors match for crying out loud...

So, knowing and understanduing this plain as day agenda, and knowing people like Hannity push this whole tea party thing non stop ..how can you say this is non partisan?

I mean ...seriously?

Again, Im not against tea parties when they are genuine...but knowing a station like fox news is encouraging them makes the intentions of the whole thing very questionable in my mind...

Especially considering fox had nothing to do with them while the neo-cons were in power...and thats when the bailouts began...hhhmmm..makes one ponder.

reply to post by open_eyeballs


Aye, an event funded by right-wing political organisations, pushed by right-wing bobbleheads on a right-wing 'news' channel, with speeches from right-wing politicians. With the current hatred and crazyness being spouted from certain quarters, a liberal would need bodyguards in that environment. Oh yeah...



I would question the sanity of any liberal attending that event for anything more than voyeurism.

Polls show 77% of americans want a public option, a similar number of quacks want the same (or single-payer). So how's about 'we the people' - the majority, not the empty vessels - getting what they want. Enough of the anti-democratic dummy-throwing windbags.

There is a clear underlying vileness in this current atmosphere. It was somewhat apparent during Clinton's years as well.

I find it strangely compelling to watch from the excellence of my communist homeland. Dasvidania comrades.



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Independents are the new 'right-wing?"

Originally posted by stevegmu
Independents are the new 'right-wing?"

Not sure I said that. I checked again to be sure, and it's not there.

I actually tend to see Obama as centre-right, so it's quite possible if we need to quibble.

reply to post by melatonin


I see. Anyone right of H. Chavez is right-wing.

Just curious but why don't you people want your fellow Americans to have access to health care ? MANY, MANY people cannot afford health care because of the the collusion and monopolization of the health care industry.

So I put it to those who don't want a public option....Why don't you want your fellow Americans to have access to health care ? Doesn't it say somewhere that we have the RIGHT to LIFE, LIBERTY and the PURSUIT of HAPPINESS?

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Everyone in America has access to health care.