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I'm talking about THIS instance.

This thread, this school, this shelling.

I don't believe search function is going to help.

UN: IDF did not shell UNRWA school

AA clerical error led the UN to falsely accuse Israel of shelling one of its Gaza schools in the Jabalya refugee camp during Operation Cast Lead, the international organization admitted this week.

The strike made international headlines and was one of the many incidents of civilian deaths that led nongovernmental organization and international politicians to call for Israelis to be charged with war crimes for the 22-day military offensive.

Israel in turn initially said that it shelled the school only after it had been fired on by Hamas gunmen hiding in the compound and then, upon reexamination, shifted to say that an errant shell had hit the school.

At the time UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon called the IDF attack "outrageous" and demanded an investigation.

But on Tuesday, the UN's Office for Humanitarian Affairs (OCHA) slipped a "clarification" notice on the head of its weekly field report from Gaza.

It noted that its January 6 field report had stated that an IDF shell hit outside the school, causing fatalities. Its January 7 field report, however, stated that the shell hit the school.

"The humanitarian coordinator would like to clarify that the shelling, and all of the fatalities, took place outside rather than inside the school," the original field report stated.

U.N. Agency That Runs School Hit in Gaza Employed Hamas and Islamic Jihad Members

The United Nations agency that administers a school in Gaza where dozens of civilians were killed by Israeli mortar fire last week has admitted to employing terrorists to work at its Palestinian schools in the past, has no system in place to keep members of Hamas or Islamic Jihad off its payroll, and provides textbooks to children that contain hate speech and other incendiary information.

A growing chorus of critics has taken aim at the United Nations Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA) in recent years, although momentum on Capitol Hill has been slow. But last week's incident, which Israel maintains was prompted by Hamas operatives firing mortars at Israelis from a location near the school, has prompted some lawmakers to scrutinize the U.N. agency.

Rep. Steve Rothman, D-N.J., introduced a resolution in the fall calling for greater transparency and accountability at UNRWA. The bill called on the agency to make its textbooks available on the Internet for public inspection and to implement "terrorist name recognition software and other screening procedures that would help to ensure that UNRWA staff, volunteers, and beneficiaries are neither terrorists themselves, nor affiliated with known terrorist organizations."

Rothman said he plans to re-introduce his UNRWA resolution in the coming weeks because, "as timely as this bill was before, it is even more timely now. It is urgent that Congress can be assured that U.S. taxpayer money is not being spent to support Hamas and its murderous activities."

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Great another thread for the pro-Zionist to display their appalling and atrocious lack of respect for human life as they gloat over the fact that the innocent children murdered won’t be growing up to hold them accountable for stealing their people’s land and murdering it’s denizens.

It’s all the Palestinians fault you see for being born there! It’s all the Palestinians fault for not wanting to live in the most densely populated prison in the world ringed by automated unmanned computerized concreted machine gun towers.

It’s all the Palestinians fault for still being foolish enough to try to desperately hold on to some farms and groves so that they have more economic opportunities to look forward to than less than minimum wage menial service jobs offered to them by the Israelis where they are treated as second class human beings not even citizens.

Everything is the Palestinians fault don’t you see. Just because Israelis run the American pornographic and adult book store business, drug paraphernalia business, traffic in narcotics, arms, and illegal organs, and most Israeli Presidents and Prime Ministers end up arrested or indicted for embezzlement and fraud really has nothing to do with the fact THAT ISRAELIS NEVER DO ANYTHING BAD. Only Palestinians do, and well if the Palestinians don’t want to live like slaves, and have their land, possessions, dignity, and lives stolen and their little children get horribly murdered as a result, well it really is the Palestinians fault don’t you see?

I don’t see it, but wow it sure felt awesome in a genocidal way to pretend to be a Zionist for a minute!

I feel so dirty now!

Children are sacred. They are the truly innocent and should be raised with open mids and understanding not treated like Goim(SP) to be slaughtered. ALL life is sacred.

Now here is one of the threads that has more stars and first page posts which are pro-israel so it is a thread that the MODs have left for everyone to read.

Anti-israel majority threads, wether they were even started as a pro israel thread or not get 404'd, not just locked.

Why? Because of the same bickering that is going on with this thread.

You can talk about this topic here on ATS, as long as you are politically correct.

God forbid the Jewish Internet Defence Force gets called on our beloved ATS.

www.thejidf.org...

Which my work's internet blocking software actually blocks as a "Hate/Racism" site, THEY ARE SPOT ON!

[edit on 1-9-2009 by breakingdradles]

Originally posted by JBA2848
U.N. Agency That Runs School Hit in Gaza Employed Hamas and Islamic Jihad Members

The United Nations agency that administers a school in Gaza where dozens of civilians were killed by Israeli mortar fire last week has admitted to employing terrorists to work at its Palestinian schools in the past, has no system in place to keep members of Hamas or Islamic Jihad off its payroll, and provides textbooks to children that contain hate speech and other incendiary information.

A growing chorus of critics has taken aim at the United Nations Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA) in recent years, although momentum on Capitol Hill has been slow. But last week's incident, which Israel maintains was prompted by Hamas operatives firing mortars at Israelis from a location near the school, has prompted some lawmakers to scrutinize the U.N. agency.

Rep. Steve Rothman, D-N.J., introduced a resolution in the fall calling for greater transparency and accountability at UNRWA. The bill called on the agency to make its textbooks available on the Internet for public inspection and to implement "terrorist name recognition software and other screening procedures that would help to ensure that UNRWA staff, volunteers, and beneficiaries are neither terrorists themselves, nor affiliated with known terrorist organizations."

Rothman said he plans to re-introduce his UNRWA resolution in the coming weeks because, "as timely as this bill was before, it is even more timely now. It is urgent that Congress can be assured that U.S. taxpayer money is not being spent to support Hamas and its murderous activities."

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Where are you getting all of these manufactured stories from James?

Who am I going to trust, the unbiased UN who looks out for human life, not property rights, or Fox News and Jpost, two of the most biased news sources out there.

I guess its my bad for posting a story where the UN changed there orignal story of Isreal bombs school children in Gaza. When the original story of this thread was about how the UN declared that Isreal bombed school children in Gaza. Seems when theres a story and it gets updated with new information the new information should be posted not which ever one suits you better. I admit this story is still undecided as to what happened even after getting more information on it. In my original post I said it was undecided becuase there was no information on the pictures but as I dug to find information on it I found even the UN a supposed nuetral orginzation doesn't even have a straight answer for the pictures or the events that took place. So I still say undecided.

OK, call me gullible, but 3 weeks ago, i was playing XBOX with someone from the Israel army. i asked him a few questions about gaza, and if its true they were violating the Geneva convention.

He brought up this story to me about the army shelling a school. HIS story was that there were *insurgents* in the building, and that they didn't know it was a school. (until afterward)

im not sure on the validity of this information, but seeing the video, reminded me of that story...

BIZARRE.

He didn't tell me if he was the one who pulled the trigger, but he told me this story...

take it for what it is, or dont... just sharing information.

[edit on 9/1/2009 by ugie1028]

Beit Lahia Families Seak Safety In UNRWA Schools

BEIT LAHIA - After Israeli ground invasion of Gaza Strip, Palestinian families in Beit Lahia has found safety in UNRWA schools. More than 50 people including 17 children have been killed by Israeli air strikes and artillery fire in less than three days in the Beit Lahia area.The people in this northern town and the surrounding area, have no food or water left, and only access to electric power during 1.5 of 24 hours.

Local Mosques, public and governmental buildings (including schools) pharmacists, hospitals, homes, markets,farmland, police cars, ambulances and private cars has been targeted,bombed and destroyed by the Zionists. The Palestinian resistance, Good Bless them, held the northern frontier of Gaza Strip, stationed in and around of Beit Lahia,where the resistance is strong, defending courageously the little town in spite of heavy Israeli bombardments.

Three young men from Beit Lahia were killed in an Israeli airstrike last night in an attack on the "Asma Elementary School" in Gaza City, the school was clearly marked as a United Nations installation. Rawhi Jamal Ramadan Al Sultan 25,Hussein Mahmoud Abed Al Malek A l Sultan 24, and Abed Samir Ali Al Sultan 19, all died in the attack.. Earlier in the evening they were among over four hundred people, who had fled their homes in Beit Lahia in northern Gaza , to find shelter in the UNRWA school.
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This from Palestine Free Voice says only three people died in this event ages 25,24 and 19. So much for there being small children killed. Although they could have still been injured.

it's sad that anyone has to die. Why cant humans live peacefully with the earth and each other. fighting is repulsive and stupid.

Given that the UN retracted their accusation that the IDF directly shelled the school, and also retracted their accusation that there were no rockets being launched from near the school, and also lied about the fact that Hamas stores and launches weapons from inside UNRWA schools, and also lied about the number of casualties (later revising it from 42 to 30) and given the fact that Hamas has been documented to booby trap UNRWA schools...

Here is my theory, which I think others will agree is consistent with Hamas's cunning, disturbing and cynical methodology:

1) Hamas booby-traps the school
2) Hamas launches rockets from either inside or outside the school
3) IDF retaliates with artillery shells
4) Secondary explosives from Hamas booby-traps go off within the compound
5) Some kids are carted in for a well choreographed photo opportunity
6) Some dead kids are carted in for the same purpose from the local cemetery
7) Gullible but well-intentioned people like the OP help them out a little by posting the pictures onto sites like this and emailing them to their friends.
8) The world hates Israel... a little bit more.

Of course we can't say all this, because that makes us cold blooded Zionists sympathizers who cackle with glee at the deaths of innocent babies... give me a bloody break.

[edit on 3-9-2009 by mattpryor]

Since pictures do not speak a thousands words, but actually leave the door open for speculation, rumours and lies. Please tell us the exact circimstance surrounding these pictures. Please tell us what happened before and after and all parties invovled in this 'story'.

Pictures never tell the whole story. They do not even tell half of it.

Sad for both sides of the game.

Originally posted by ManBehindTheMask
reply to post by jimmyx

 

Yeah looks like something launched from behind the building there. My opinion these are pictures in Palestine , being touted as something Israel has done. Propaganda.

This is an attack on the UNRWA school as the Israeli troops moved into that part of the city (17 Jan 2009). If you do the research, you can track the date of those photos to the date of the movement of the troops invasion into that part of the city.

Consider how many months have gone by since the event, I'm surprised you would try to make it out to be propaganda after they have already shown the daily events in detail.

IDF didn't deny their attack on this school, which sheltered many people since their homes were destroyed. This is one they finally admitted their attack upon.

aftermath of an Israeli strike on a UN school, designated as a shelter, in Beit Lahiya

So those that claim pally-wood, you just only made yourself look bad.

Here is photos from Global Research... definitely not pally-wood!

Updated Large Photo Gallery

Here are the photo reports from the U.N.:

GAZA CRISIS - PHOTO GALLERY JANUARY 2009

Of course, IDF couldn't deny tank fire when Hamas doesn't have any tank. They also didn't deny they, the IDF, hit the UN center earlier:

IDF admits to attacks, yet denies it being a war crime

Human Rights Watch started the investigation, which then was turned over the the U.N. and other independent investigators. IDF then released a report (April 22) based on their earlier claim of munitions found in the facilities as a reason why they fired:

On April 22, the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) released the results of its internal investigations into its behavior during the recent fighting, concluding that it "operated in accordance with international law" throughout the fighting and that "a very small number" of "unavoidable" incidents occurred due to "intelligence or operational errors."

After the investigation, the IDF was unable to defend its claims of why they fired on the school, as no munitions were found in the schools and UN facilities:

UN Report summary: IDF Firing of White Phosphorus at UN Compound was “grossly negligent, amounting to recklessness”


[edit on 4-9-2009 by dzonatas]

reply to post by THX-1138


A) this isn't recent, its from the offensive in Gaza in the beginning of the year.

B) Israel isn't interest in grabing that land. Its Gaza, Israel left Gaza under Sharon, they have no intention of taking that land. They just want Hamas to stop firing rockets at Israeli civilians, INCLUDING CHILDREN!!!!!

Originally posted by mattpryor
Given that the UN retracted their accusation that the IDF directly shelled the school,

The UN retracted their statement about the January 6th event... these photos are from the January 17th event, which the UN did not retract their separate statement.

How often do the IDF like to confuse these events... you aren't the first to try!

I would like to add that since NOTHING has been going on in the Israeli/Palestinian conflict lately for the Arab sympathizers to point their indignant fingers at, people like the OP needs to dredge up issues that we discussed and debated ad nauseum in January and February.

The big bad IDF hasn't killed any innocent Palestinians lately? PressTV can't come up with something to blame Israel for?

Originally posted by breakingdradles

Who am I going to trust, the unbiased UN who looks out for human life, not property rights, or Fox News and Jpost, two of the most biased news sources out there.

Your screen name says it all: Breaking Dradles.

A dreidel is a top used to play a special Chanukah (Hanukkah) game. The sides of a dreidel are labled with the Hebrew letters Nun, Gimmel, Hay, and Shin. This is an abbreviation for the phrase "Nes Gadol Haya Shom" or "A Great Miracle Happened There".

www.judaism.com...

Yea, you are real unbiased.

Originally posted by JBA2848
I guess its my bad for posting a story where the UN changed there orignal story of Isreal bombs school children in Gaza. When the original story of this thread was about how the UN declared that Isreal bombed school children in Gaza.

The story you posted was published on Jan 14th.

The UN school was shelled on Jan 17th. (from which the pictures are from)

You see the problem with your claim?

Stupid Stupid people, Your sitting here debatig WHEN, You should be ASKING why. This was the first I had heard of this story. It is wrong Wrong Wrong. I don't believe that God doesn't make mistakes because his biggest mistake was Mankind. Why in the heck are people defending the actions of a religious sect committing such atrocities. I Don't know about anyone else but I wouldn't ever follow a God that mandated the death of anyone who believed differently than that religion. Probably why I am Wiccan. The only law they have is do as you may harm NONE!!!!! from the way it seems from the research I have done is that the Palastinians are just trying to protect themselves. But go ahead and pour on the Zionist BS. I wont believe it. SHOW me where the palestinians have done anything to deserve white phosphourus being shot at reugees. Sorry I don't believe it.