Coverage under Obamacare will require an implantable microchip.

Originally posted by angelx666
Microchip implants ready for use with swine flu vaccine

Verichip partnered with Minnesota (Minnesota again?) to develop swine chip
REUTERS www.reuters.com...
Next step in H1N1 scare: Microchip implants
WND www.wnd.com...

Full programme:

www.receptorsllc.com...

(personal opinion: if they even mentioned this in the bill- its coming)

I forwarded these links to friends and family...You should create a new thread with this one

googolplex, that had nothing to do with niether the title of the thread, the intended deciept of the title of the thread, nor the factual articles of the referenced bill and the attempt of taking one random line and creating a decieptful title for a slanted purpose.

Sos what was the point? The fact remains that after ELEVEN PAGES of meaningless accusations, the title is still not labeled (hoax) as there is nowhere in the articles referenced any language written stating the very concept or thought of mandattory chip innoculation. And neither is it written that said allegations are a pre-requisite to recieving any health care coverage under the proposed legislation.

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The chip technology will begin with medical usage. If you notice a few posts above there is a video of a hospital in Sweden that already chips everything. They chip the patient; they chip all the patients meds; they chip the patients chart, so that everything matches up whenever they check to make sure the right person is getting the right medicine, or surgical procedure. This will get the sheeple used to the idea of chip implants and the wonderful advantages of it, will make them mush less resistant when the announcement comes that all financial transactions, across the world, will be done via rfid.

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The point being, the door is open it is only a matter of time before these things are implemented.

The other thing was trying to show is these are not good people, they have a plan for everyone.

Kissinger, should of been charged with crimes against humanity, several times.

I won't say people are dumb or crazy...but they certainly do see what they want to see.

I will say this agian for the whatever(th) time.

All dogs are animals....not all animals are dogs.

All implantable devices are classified as "class I, II, or II" depending on how much review is required by the FDA.

Artificial hips, pacemakers EVERYTHING IS A CLASS I,II,II DEVICE.

SO when someone says LOOK LOOK I found out that a

"Class II device is an RFID CHIP" it is they same as saying look look I found out that the word "ANIMAL is defined as "RATS" and that PETA is an organization that is formed around the cause of protecting "RATS" and that Animal cruelty only refers to rats..

It just DUMB.

A CLASS II DEVICE IS NOT AN IMPLANTABLE RFID CHIP.

CLASS II IS ANY DEVICE THAT REQUIRES A CERTAIN LEVEL OF FDA REVIEW BEFORE BEING SOLD TO THE PUBLIC.

IF YOU CAN FIND AN RFID CHIP THAT HAS BEEN CLASSIFIED AS "CLASS II" THEN COOL!! BUT DON"T TELL ME THAT "CLASS II" MEANS RFID CHIP!


STOP STOP STOP THE CRAZY STUPID BS.

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Did you buy a lot of stock in Verichip or something?

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HAHA read the post and your sources bud, were talking about IMPLANTABLES ... CLASS 2 IMPLANTABLES ... not wheelchairs and such, and Class 2 implantables are almost EXCLUSIVELY, LIKE I SAID BEFORE, rfid type devices ... dude read and then post , or go to a different website

one last edit for posterity quote my posts... i said class 2's (in relation to IMPLANTABLES) are "almost" exclusively rfid devices ...
Maybereal11.... i hope for your sake that you take a break from putting words in my mouth
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I just may actually buy stock in Verichip now that you mention it. We could probably make some nice dividens in the next decade. Some people see sinister things in everything, because technically yes anything can be used sinisterly, or whatever.

Dont forgget that at least a dozen states have passed legislation explicitly banning the implanting of any devide with RFID without written permission of the patiennt. Your not gonna just wake up in the Hospital one day and have a chip in you.

I doubt it will ever be mandatory in our lifetime. Even so, that does not mean there is anythiing wrong with actually having a chip for convinience. I may just get one mysef. IF you evver want to render it useless it would be very simple without having to take it out.
Im kind of barbaric so if I ever had second thoughts I would just rip the thing out.

Originally posted by conspiracyrus
reply to post by maybereal11

 

HAHA read the post and your sources bud, were talking about IMPLANTABLES ... CLASS 2 IMPLANTABLES ... not wheelchairs and such, and Class 2 implantables are almost EXCLUSIVELY, LIKE I SAID BEFORE, rfid type devices ...

I never said anything about wheelchairs?? or such?? Why are you BSing.

Anyone interested in what a "Class II implantable device is" hit the "Thread Button" at the bottom of this post.

Or look up "Implantable Medical Devices" on Wikipedia.

Or research it and look for any story or definition that doesn't come from this BS story.

CLASS II SIMPLY DENOTES HOW MUCH REVIEW AN IMPLANTABLE MEDICAL DEVICE NEEDS.

** I HAVE A CLASS II DEVICE (TITANIUM PLATE) with screws between two of my vertebrae.

HER IS A CLASS II IMPLANTABLE DEVICE...an Artificial hip!!!!

www.accessdata.fda.gov...

Howmedica Osteonics Corporation
c/o Mr. Francisco Haro
Regulatory Affairs Specialist
325 Corporate Drive MAR 0 8 2007
Mahwah, New Jersey 07430
Re: K063552
Trade/Device Name: Series II Constrained Acetabular Liners
Regulation Number: 21 CFR 888.3310
Regulation Name: Hip joint metal/polymer constrained cemented or uncemented prosthesis
Regulatory Class: Class II
Product Code: KWZ
Dated: February 16, 2007
Received: February 20, 2007

I can do this all day long....JUST RESEARCH FOR GODS SAKE...



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Here is another Class II Implantable Device....An Artificial Shoulder

www.accessdata.fda.gov/cdrh_docs/pdf/k001419.pdf

I can do this all day long....and when you spout nonsense that
"Class II Devices arealmost exclusively RFID chips"...Well If Artificial Hips are Class II IMplantable Devices...how many artificial hips do you think there are in folks right now? Knees? Shoulders? How many RFID chips?

Almost Exclusively?????? This OP is a Lie and a Hoax.
Again...what makes you think this bill refers to RFID? WHere does this bill require a chip to be implanted? Just because you keep saying it, doesn't make it true.

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Originally posted by Bombeni
reply to post by maybereal11

 

Did you buy a lot of stock in Verichip or something?

No just someone that can't stand liars and folks looking to BS and manipulate people.

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Wow im going to have to correct you again artifical shoulder is class 3 ...and though your source says that artificial hips are class 2 . heres one that says it was uped to class 3 www.emergogroup.com...


and i didnt say anything about mandatory implants as a matter of fact my first post on this thread was that the language says its not mandatory in any sense and this is just laying down framework.... once again please read posts i mean are you kidding me guy?
and im going to edit one last time saying Just becuase you caps your post doesnt make it true , as well i will ask you again Do you just skim over things until they agree with you or do you actually read them and take information out of it?



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FYI - I keep using Caps becuase you keep pretending you didn't read the posts just becuase they disprove your BS.

...now that we agree that the thread title and OP is BS and that the bill does NOT "require an implantable microchip"

Explain your statement ...

Originally posted by conspiracyrus
Class II implantables are almost exclusively RFID chips...
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Becuase I call BS and have provided sources showing that Class II devices include a nearly limitless diversity of Medical Device Implants...yes "Implantable devices".

Class II is an FDA term that applies to how much review should be done.

It DOES NOT describe the product...just the requisite review process that the product demands.

So where do you get "Class II Implantables are almost exclusively RFID Chips"???

I have asked a dozen different ways and shown you examples of numerous Class II devices that have nothing to do with RFID Technology...

I have backed up my claims with research and sources...

Until you can back up that BS I will call it for what it is ...BS.



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wow man really ... can you not read ... i just proved that artificial hips and the like are not class II they are class III and i said almost exclusively meaning yes there are other class II implantable items that are not rfid devices ... but not very many ... and yes there are THOUSANDS of class II devices that are not implantable ... but im not talking about them... now do yourself a favor pal ... read my posts before you go off on tyrades like the one you just posted ... seriously your making yourself look dumber and dumber every post you make


JUST IN CASE YOU MISSED MY SOURCE ON THAT LAST INFORMATION I WILL CAPS THIS AND OFFER THE LINK AGAIN www.emergogroup.com...

BTW bud you backed your claims with old and no longer valid information ... really guy you need to read the posts ... if you disagree with what im saying then find a source and read it to make sure it is up to date and actually supports what you say and then use it in an argument... you have proved nothing other than the fact that you will use any information rather than correct information to "prove" your "claim"
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Originally posted by Bombeni
reply to post by maybereal11

 

Did you buy a lot of stock in Verichip or something?

I'm going to buy stock if that is publc company, some of the ones that were hot and I checked out , were private.

But this could be bigger than hula hops, I can see billions of people having them, but then again maybe only 500 million

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Originally posted by conspiracyrus
reply to post by maybereal11

 

wow man really ... can you not read ...

JUST IN CASE YOU MISSED MY SOURCE ON THAT LAST INFORMATION I WILL CAPS THIS AND OFFER THE LINK AGAIN www.emergogroup.com...
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Yes I can read...check your source it is referring to the EUROPEAN COMMISSION and has nothing to do with the UNITED STATES FDA CLASSSIFICATION SYSTEM.

I appreciate all of your insults though...now what else have you got to support your BS Statement???

Edit to add...Actually that means that in addition to your initial statement, all of the posts since then ranting about how knee and hip replacemetns are not "Class II Implantable Devices" was BS also...you just keep on producing it.

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You do realize that Mergo consults for people trying to get devices past the fda? and especially on the classification of medical devices?l as well that just becuase you see the countires france and England that it does not specifically mean the european union ... and that you should probably read a little farther saying that all member states have to comply?

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Originally posted by conspiracyrus
reply to post by maybereal11

 

wow man really ... can you not read ... ... really guy you need to read the posts ... if you disagree with what im saying then find a source and read it to make sure it is up to date and actually supports what you say [edit on 3-9-2009 by conspiracyrus]

Oh the irony Given that you were rambling on about the EUROPEAN COMMISSION as your source clearly states...

You do know the difference between Europe and the USA right??

One..the USA...has the FDA
Europe has the European Commission...the tip-off is that it is called the European Commission...right there in that link you screamed at me to read...WOW.

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lol read again Europes MDEG was only the people to bring it up... man READ THE DOCUMENT They endorsed a guidance document Nowhere does it say that it is specific to the europeans...

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Originally posted by conspiracyrus
reply to post by maybereal11

 

You do realize that Mergo consults for people trying to get devices past the fda? and especially on the classification of medical devices?

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So what?? It doesn't change the fact that you continue to spout innacuracy after BS filled BS.

You just spent several posts full of insults telling me that the FDA has re-classified artificial hips and shoulders as Class III and tht Class II is all RFID Chips...Oh sorry "almost exclusively RFID Chips"

And when I press for an actual source...

You sen me a link to the EUROPEAN COMMISION....NOT THE FDA

Here, since you love to critique my reading skills...try this test

FROM YOUR SOURCE...can you find the word EUROPEAN? CAN YOU FIND THE WORD FDA?

the European Commission's Medical Device Expert Group, MDEG, endorsed a guidance document on this Directive at its December 2006 meeting. The guidance document was issued in January 2007 and is titled Guidance Document on Directive 2005/50/EC on the Reclassification of Hip, Knee, and Shoulder Joint Replacements. The Guidance document delineates the common interpretation by the Member States of Directive 2005/50/EC.