Late August/September 2009 object predicted to impact our Sun causing Earth disasters? PLEASE WATCH

the sun is a symbol.
jesus became the sun once,
before glorification he was the moon = son =angels
that moon will turn red
and the sun will not yet fully shine from its rising
the sun will look dark = like false = scenarios expected by dogmatic religion
when it isn't

in other words eclipse

this is the prophesy from malachi,
that's why there are 2 suns.

2 spies came back from the promised land
and the promised land is the father
the father is one.
All the other prophets left at glorification.

I'm one to take Phage's info as rock solid a great majority of the time. And he's more often right than wrong... and can back up his information with FACTS, I tend to listen to him on this sort of thing.

But since I was curious where this particular 'EOET' (End of Everything Theory) came from and if Hellion 1957 was even a registered celestial object.... I went looking.

So I slapped Hellion 1957 into Google and hit search.

It takes looking at less that two search results pages to see that 1- it's not scientifically grounded. 2- that most of the hits listed are from Godlike Productions, or ATS

Also a brown dwarf would be nearly the size of Jupiter, which would make it very easy to spot for astronomers. You would be able to see it with cheap binoculars were it close enough to even threaten to hit the Sun. (Much less the Earth.)

As to question a question asked elsewhere: If a brown dwarf had stuck Jupiter the impact would have been catastrophic for Jupiter. Likely had a collision of that magnitude happened, Jupiter would be forming a new asteroid belt, and we'd be in deep kaka by now. (Due to the outliers smashing into our planet.)

Given the lack of scientific data proving Hellion 1957 even existing, the lack of back yard astronomers showing a new asteroid belt to everyone. Or a planet sized gouge in either Saturn or Jupiter, either of those two bodies suddenly missing moons... the data pretty much says it wasn't a brown dwarf that hit recently.

It'd make a disaster movie, theory wise, but beyond that, it's be a B-flick.

M.

Originally posted by Moshpet

It'd make a disaster movie, theory wise, but beyond that, it's be a B-flick.
M.

Perhaps it already has. A few short weeks ago ABC had a movie where a brown dwarf remnant crashed into the moon causing hell on Earth. Shortly after that we have a brand new conspiracy theory where a brown dwarf crashes into the sun.

Interesting timing to say the least.

reply to post by Moshpet


Exactly what I said back on page 1. It doesn't exist. Never did. Bull cheese.

Originally posted by Moshpet
I'm one to take Phage's info as rock solid a great majority of the time. And he's more often right than wrong... and can back up his information with FACTS, I tend to listen to him on this sort of thing.

But since I was curious where this particular 'EOET' (End of Everything Theory) came from and if Hellion 1957 was even a registered celestial object.... I went looking.

So I slapped Hellion 1957 into Google and hit search.

It takes looking at less that two search results pages to see that 1- it's not scientifically grounded. 2- that most of the hits listed are from Godlike Productions, or ATS

Also a brown dwarf would be nearly the size of Jupiter, which would make it very easy to spot for astronomers. You would be able to see it with cheap binoculars were it close enough to even threaten to hit the Sun. (Much less the Earth.)

As to question a question asked elsewhere: If a brown dwarf had stuck Jupiter the impact would have been catastrophic for Jupiter. Likely had a collision of that magnitude happened, Jupiter would be forming a new asteroid belt, and we'd be in deep kaka by now. (Due to the outliers smashing into our planet.).

M.

Erm small correction: a brown dwarf is bigger than jupiter. As for what would happen if a brown dwarf hit jupiter... humm... to form an asteroid belt it would lack... well, rocks. But they might get enough mass to start fusion? No idea. But I'd rather think jupiter falling into brown dwars gravity well would get ripped apart, and sucked up by brown dwarf.

Anyway: in that little video he doesn't say brown dwarf. He says dwarf star! And that makes it really funny, because a dwarf star would be almost as big as the sun, way bigger than jupiter (or a brown dwarf) and would announce it's presence with lots and lots of radiation, both in the visible spectrum and above and below, pretty much like ... well... the sun

This is pretty interesting news, because the Web Bot guys say that on August 22-23rd, something major is supposed to happen.

reply to post by nikiano


Yea... but they've also been shouting about 'The Summer from Hell'. Well, so far it's been, at best, The Summer of Heck. Since summer is just about gone they missed the ball on that one.

Just FYI ... the video quotes Emmitsburg Maryland and the alleged Mary apparitions there. The Catholic Church has condemned Emmitsburg as a false apparition. I have read the books by the woman who claims the visions there. They are poppycock. Just FYI - the Catholic Church says it's not real.

Here is a statement rebuttal to the claims of the poster Anon Shelter Tech. This rebuttal shows the blatant holes in the claim of Hellion-1957.

Thanks goes to Average Joe at Ego Central.

Rebuttal, by Average Joe

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"Sound Matrix 2009" your thread could be the real thing. There could be a coming impact with the Sun on August 22, 2009 that could possibly be disasterous with the population of the Earth.

I state this only because of this SOHO shot

www.abovetopsecret.com...

the link provided by "Light Sound" shows a huge object heading towards our Sun.

sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov...

I think we should keep an eye on this and be prepared if we need to be. It does seem strange that we haven't seen it with the human eye; so it could possibly be a very small object passing very close to SOHO, thereby making it look huge when in fact it is very small and not worthy to take notice of. That could also explain why they NASA only has one photo of it for all of us to look at. Perhaps its an experiment by NASA to see how we react.

Seems strange though that all of the stock markets are dropping drastically today. I could see where there would be a run on the banks in the near future if this were real.

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Correct.........and i would like Phage to comment on this Or any other with insight........looks like something i have never seen either from Stereo Or Soho........and more importantly where did it go? [or was it removed]!!

reply to post by RussianScientists


How can you guys make these claims? This is the identical image that GLP has their panties all in a bunch over even producing color-manipulated offshoots to make it look like additional images. This image has been posted by at least 5 differnt people here on ATS and not one of you has been able to offer credible backing of what it actually depicts.

You're all just parroting what is being spewed over at GLP. What happened to critical thinking here?

reply to post by soundmatrix2009


Sorry to rain on the parade, but couldn't this be an Orson-Wellesian "performance"...? It looks and sounds like it.

Could we have more information on who discovered it, etc.?
There is little more than various forum posts about it to be found on the internet. Searching NASA yields nothing that would point to this.

reply to post by jtma508

What happened to critical thinking here?

It disappeared in favor of abject religious piety and dogmatic stubborness.

Combined with an astonishing lack of scientific and astronomical education/knowledge.

I've seen a picture of this from a different forum and the first thing that popped into my head was "If this is true, shouldn't we be able to see something so large with the naked eye?"

Then I thought, depends. It could be a smaller object close to the camera, or a huge one near the sun. All a matter of perspective really.

Either way a cool pic, awesome blue color.

Anyone else think the dire predictions of the second video are a bit behind schedule, Israel would need to invade iran, China would need to move 500,000 troops to the Korean border, Diplomatic tensions between the US and Russia would need to fail and we should be seeing 2 sun`s at the moment and feeling the effects of the destruction of Saturn and Jupiter and Venus from the Dwarf Star, all of this before Sat. 22/08/09 no more summing up is needed I think p.s Maybe the GFL will turn up on Friday night to get the party starteded

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All I can say is that I have never seen that type of artifact on SOHO. Is that some type of glare?

Hello everyone,

I am new here. I have an interest in Planet X and related subjects. I am collecting all the information I can find on the newest object (Hellion-1957?). You are welcome to visit my Planet X page, where I am compiling the Hellion data at www.apocalyptichousewife.com...

As you will see from my home page, there are many reasons to prepare and that is what my site emphasizes: Get ready. We don't know what will hit first but if you are ready it will go easier on you and your family.

The Hellion data is in the Introduction section. If you scroll down further you will see LASCO C3 captures of Planet X. NASA misses air brushing PX out of the frames every now and again. PX is out there and it is coming. But we are going to have some real celestial fireworks before it actually passes.

reply to post by sacredstar


SacredStar... welcome aboard. I sent you a U2U based upon your post on the (now closed) bazillionth Hellion thread. The images you posted from GLP are the same image. Color manipulations for effect and the last one is simply a cropped enlargement of the 'object' part of their image. Same image 100%. So, unlike what is suggested on your page they are not additional images.

The plain truth is no one has come forward to unequivocally say what the SOHO image is and provide any data to support it. The alleged 'data' that has been provided on GLP is incomplete, flawed and is apparently fabricated. IF this was a real object and due to impact within the timeframe suggested GLP or someone else (the thousands of well-equipped amateur astronomers for example) would be able to provide specific, verifiable location data. Such is not the case.

So, when are you guys handing out the running shoes and poison pudding snacks?

I was going through the SOHO images and came across this odd star formation. Look at the lower left hand corner, what is that ? 08-16-2009@ 14:54

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Link not working???
Anyway it is SOHO movie theater LascoC2 2009-08-16@ 14:54
sohodata.nascom.nasa.gov...

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