Missing ship may have secret cargo

reply to post by harrytuttle


Yes, but a cargo of wood should be floating all over the place.

Also, what the PTB over the US need right now considering Swine Flu disclosures, Economy, Town hall meetings, etc.....is a good ole' false flag; which in turn sparks a very distracting, and profitable war.

reply to post by sanchoearlyjones


The original thread I read is found here:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

The video I watched is found here:

www.youtube.com...

The video was a bunch of crap because of the girl hosting the interview over the phone, she kept chimming in with her 2 second comments and you could barely hear the guy over the phone.... especially over her. Supposedly this prophecy was made by some Waitaha people. One of their elders gave the August 15, 2009 date as a big day...

I haven't read much into it but the circumstances of this event leading up close to the August 15th date might be a coincidence but it could be more. The lady in the video is hoping for ET disclosure, but maybe the ancients actually predicted something bigger that awakens the world. Maybe a bomb, maybe alien tech on the ship... heck maybe even Tesla/Philadelphia experiment tech that made the missing ship move to another port in the Pacific.

After reading that thread last night I mostly thought of the District 9 movie coming out this weekend but after reading this the thought of the two connected events entered my head.

Originally posted by sanchoearlyjones

I'd like to chalk the above article up to just drug dealer's, or benign international smugglers. The original story came out a few days ago, but now to actually announce the possibility of secret mysterious cargo?? I think we could be looking at a very public false flag from the secret cargo, or we all have been privy to the shadow war going on right now. Yes, I said it, shadow war of the Elites.

The story gets stranger, and stranger. It's a Russian registered ship; with Russian crew, but whatever loaded with left port out of Finland.

They were attacked/boarded by masked men in a speed boat, reporting to be International(interpol) drug police. Somehow the ship was able to radio this, and said the men had left the ship. The ship never made it to port; it disappeared after that.

Does anyone else see the deception??? All the articles talk about precise details in the siege by masked men, and the ship radioing it in EXACTLY, but then the articles say the ships disappeared do to not having COMMUNICATIONS... So how does a ship with no communications say, or radio anything?

I'm gonna say it...... I think this could very well be a staged event by the USA/Israel.

I could see this very ship sneaking into a US port with different name, and registration...maybe Iranian? The ships entry would be followed by a large BOOM.... of the Atomic kind.

Of course, DHS would have it all on tape; they'd give us the enhanced version.

It makes since. The motive would be a fruition of war with Iran, and fire the US American people up enough to fight Russia; who will join in a defense against the US/Israeli forces attacking Iran.

Remember there are articles out right now, which revealed Israel's desire to bomb(of course with nukes) Iran during the recent CIA Riots.

I think this try at Albert Pykes WW 3 is coming soon.

Thoughts?

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(visit the link for the full news article)

[edit on 13-8-2009 by sanchoearlyjones]

while reading your post i thought, hmmmm.....kinda sounds like b.s. but the more i think about it, the more i think you could be right.

just thought of something though, for a war with iran, we would have to pull all our troops outta iraq quick fast and in a hurry. do you really see that happening?

reply to post by getreadyalready

We have satellites, spy planes, and rescue planes and helicopters. No way it is just "lost" or even stolen! It is either underwater, or under surveillance at this very moment!

Yes I was wondering about the satellites. I was able to pin point my stolen semi truck cab in the thief's parking lot so why can't the find a LARGE ship? The knew its location and the pictures are kept for a period of time so this definitely does not make much sense.

I was also wondering if the boarding of the ship was to switch crews...

Originally posted by mrmonsoon
My thinking is this......

Honestly, what is an old ship with 1-1.5 million in cargo worth to Russia proper???

Surely it can't be worth all the navy ships and such looking for it???

Besides Russia pride at stake, why all the effort???

Now, if it had nuclear/biological materials/bombs onboard, losing "THAT" would justify the massive search for the ship.

I believe we only have a small part of this story.

It isn't the ship or the cargo or even the personnel on board, per se. It is the principle (and International Law by the way) that any naval power, (and Russia would certainly like to contend that it is), must protect civilian shipping, especially but not only their own, against pirates. The US has a lot of assets off the coast of Somalia too.

Nice find OP S&F for you.

Here's what bothers me the most about all of this:

This is a fairly large ship. It disappeared off the coast of France. I am fairly certain that a large ship of the coast of your country would be being tracked by sonar/radar in exactly the same manner in which air traffic is tracked by air traffic control stations across the globe.

This shouldn't have been discovered when it didn't make it to port. This should have been discovered the moment it dropped off of radar/sonar. Then a task force or rescue operation is immediately dispatched.

This whole story doesn't sound right. I can see no possible way that a ship that large can just disappear off the coast of an industrialized nation, and perhaps any nation. It just doesn't add up.

Also with the supposed nuclear threats by Iran and North Korea, it would seem logical that ANY ship with undeclared cargo would be tracked like a hawk. And it is obvious that it was known or suspected that the ship had undeclared cargo.

Like I said earlier, this just doesn't add up.

reply to post by 11b1p


Hey, I'm glad the BS meter isn't going off to high!

Like I said the whole thread through, I'd rather be wrong, but I think it is due to the Internet, that we still are terror attack/false flag free.

I think many people have been laughed at countless times since 9/11, but I'll bet those countless times, countless lives have been unknowingly saved.

Um, Iraq??? We are pulling out of there to some degree. The war effort has been shifted over to Afghanistan.

Also, war with Iran would also be using Israel's military; which is large.

With the advent of a false flag of epic proportions, a DRAFT would be easy.

Do you remember the military enlistees after 9/11??? I do, and it was huge.

reply to post by DarrylGalasso


I can totally see your points. Similar to border checkpoints, they are notified to look for a specific rig, and they search all matching the description, but this is a ship; a BIG ship.

crimvelvet, said he was able access I'm guessing google Earth to find a truck, I know those are just stationary one snap photo's, but to apply that to constant imaging satellites, such as every government on Earth has, I don't think this ship is lost.

I again think we are being desensitized to possible future events. I say possible because I am of the opinion the PTB have several different options at play all the time.

Originally posted by DarrylGalasso
Here's what bothers me the most about all of this:

This is a fairly large ship. It disappeared off the coast of France. I am fairly certain that a large ship of the coast of your country would be being tracked by sonar/radar in exactly the same manner in which air traffic is tracked by air traffic control stations across the globe.

This shouldn't have been discovered when it didn't make it to port. This should have been discovered the moment it dropped off of radar/sonar. Then a task force or rescue operation is immediately dispatched.

This whole story doesn't sound right. I can see no possible way that a ship that large can just disappear off the coast of an industrialized nation, and perhaps any nation. It just doesn't add up.

It does if the ship has been destroyed and is sitting at the bottom of the ocean.

As for floating wood, it's a mighty big ocean and if you don't know where to look, then you'll never find any debris.

Originally posted by sanchoearlyjones
reply to post by 11b1p

 

Hey, I'm glad the BS meter isn't going off to high

!

Like I said the whole thread through, I'd rather be wrong, but I think it is due to the Internet, that we still are terror attack/false flag free.

I think many people have been laughed at countless times since 9/11, but I'll bet those countless times, countless lives have been unknowingly saved.

Um, Iraq??? We are pulling out of there to some degree. The war effort has been shifted over to Afghanistan.

Also, war with Iran would also be using Israel's military; which is large.

With the advent of a false flag of epic proportions, a DRAFT would be easy.

Do you remember the military enlistees after 9/11??? I do, and it was huge.

very good point about the draft, plus voluntary enlistment. voluntary enlistment would be extrememly high, especially with how much iran has been in the news lately.

on a side note, i have looked at this forum for a very long time, and just joined today, i like this board because of all the different personalities, and everyone points out a perspective that makes me think a bit more

reply to post by 11b1p

very good point about the draft, plus voluntary enlistment. voluntary enlistment would be extrememly high, especially with how much iran has been in the news lately.

See your comment just spun me a little bit. Your right they are pounding the kill Iran drums. People are unhappy, and the second BOOMBOOM. The PTB will point over at Iran.

They've been feeding us all a good helping of Iran mania. I can only hope through vigilance, and awareness we can stop, or at least stop the war from coming to full fruition.

Remember, Iraq had WMD's

one thing that went unnoticed on this thread: the cargo itself.

Why would Algeria buy timber from Finland? if it were for a paper factory shouldn`t it be more reasonable to buy cellulose paste? Yes, Finland do export "wood" (but on a small scale, they mostly import it, soft woods for paper manufacturing -- from Russia and eastern europe). On the same page, rich countries are not known for exporting primary materials, mostly they export processed goods (aggregated/added value).

only a few remarks on something that adds to the strangeness of this whole story.

another one: why would a African Country buy wood (timber) from a north european nation, that not only uses almost all of its primary wood resources but also heavily taxes exportation of this kind of natural resources + the freight cost (that i`d say is far greater that it would`ve been if the same kind of resource were purchased from a nearby, nearest, African country).

another note: why is everyone assumng that the ship was indeed loaded? Surely the paper trail states so, but how hard is it to forge it? (especially when we sum up all the other oddities in this case -- to forfeit a few bills of purchase and bribe 1 or 2 customs officials would`ve been quite easy in relation with the whole scenario/setup).

other thoughts (adding to possibilities unrelated to nukes or imminent war): drugs/weapons/people smuggling gone bad-- or perhaps one person too important to take more normal routes (plane), artifacts/machinery, small or big, of considerable technological importance... at this point "everything" is a good guess, and yours is as good as mine... besides the cargo, the second most important thing would be the destination (Algeria really doesn`t seem to fit this role, as many already noticed)


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reply to post by JayinAR


OK everyone, now prove to me there were any pirates at all.
What if the crew discovered a cargo of value and decided to steal it.
Make up a lame pirate story and disable all the GPS/tracking signals?

Another very likely explaination?
Head south with the booty and say good bye to cold, grey Russia.

reply to post by Estharik


Hmmm... Anyone find anything on Timewave Zero about August 15th, 2009?

Wonder if it applies to this or not. Just a thought, not trying to get off topic.

[edit on 13-8-2009 by flysse]

What I find strange is...why can't this ship be found via satellite imaging? I know Russia is thought to be a little behind the times in that regard, but still...I would think they would have the capability.

Originally posted by saturnine_sweet
What I find strange is...why can't this ship be found via satellite imaging? I know Russia is thought to be a little behind the times in that regard, but still...I would think they would have the capability.

Satellites still need to know where to look and they might very well see the ship and not know its the ship they are looking for (Imagine trying to find the right 2005 red Toyota Corrolla in a parking lot full of cars). The Earths oceans are a great place to hide if you don't want to be found. Most Nations would not want to cough up the dough for an exhaustive search (actually most don't have the maritime resources for such a search either). Given the search area involved I find Russias search responce to be more for show then substance. Subs just really are not that good for this kind of search (I think I read they had some sub looking) UNLESS they have a sound profile of the ship in question (every ship has a unique aural signature) which of course begs the question why they would have such a profile for one of their own ships.

Lets not also forget that all things being equal the ship could pull into a port somewhere and the crew will go "were you looking for us?". Stranger things have happened.

This whole thread to me boils down to trying to stop the NWO, and the Power's that be. I would like to point your direction to another thread which I think might help the People learn their true nature, and power to stop the NWO.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Originally posted by Estharik
reply to post by sanchoearlyjones

 

The original thread I read is found here:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

The video I watched is found here:

www.youtube.com...

The video was a bunch of crap because of the girl hosting the interview over the phone, she kept chimming in with her 2 second comments and you could barely hear the guy over the phone.... especially over her. Supposedly this prophecy was made by some Waitaha people. One of their elders gave the August 15, 2009 date as a big day...

I haven't read much into it but the circumstances of this event leading up close to the August 15th date might be a coincidence but it could be more. The lady in the video is hoping for ET disclosure, but maybe the ancients actually predicted something bigger that awakens the world. Maybe a bomb, maybe alien tech on the ship... heck maybe even Tesla/Philadelphia experiment tech that made the missing ship move to another port in the Pacific.

After reading that thread last night I mostly thought of the District 9 movie coming out this weekend but after reading this the thought of the two connected events entered my head.

Oooo so you mean she is like 'kerry' from project camelot? Whats up with this chics eyebrows? Off topic but damn those look evil like Michelle Obamas.

For some reason a couple weeks ago I wrote down on a sticky note August 19th with a little mushroom cloud. I am not sure where I got the date but something popped it into my head.

[edit on 13-8-2009 by epete22]

Oops, posted on wrong thread.

Anyway, it's really weird how there's barely any info on this giant vessel going missing. Especially with world tensions the way they are. I'm trying to find more info on this August 15th thing and if there's any relevance.

[edit on 13-8-2009 by flysse]