NZNWO - The guinea pig nation.....

New Zealand is a beautiful country, situated just beneath Australia at the bottom of the Pacific Ocean. It is a small nation with a population of around 4 million.






We are under English sovereignty and they seem to have been using us as a testing ground for globalisation. Henry Kissinger was over here back in the early 80's trialing a cashless society system, EFTPOS.

There is also an American 'communications' base at the top of the South Island that intercepts international calls to provide intelligence.

www.converge.org.nz...


Here are two clips about the NZNWO. I have been living in New Zealand my whole life (24) and the research I have conducted relating to this issue ties in rather nicely with the information here......





4 million people is a safe amount to tamper with and gauge a response from.

New Zealand has worldwide notoriety and it would be one of the few countries where a 'uprising' would be possible. Time to rattle the cage............. peace.



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Any Kiwis out there??? New Zealand has been sold out big time. Our Ministry of Health is corrupt as it continues to push fluoride. We also pretty much have a two party race with National and Labour and most of our infrastructure has been sold to foreign investors.

The same divide and conquer tactics are being used here.

Does anyone have any ideas on how to counter this??? NZ is small enough to rock the boat know what I mean......

What's even better is the fact that NZ is full of extermely ignorant people, too. I still can't believe NZ is constantly concerned about US politics like it's our country. Sure, our political system is a big joke, but seriously.

It'd be too early for an uprising yet. All in the timing.

Originally posted by vehemes terra eternus
New Zealand is a beautiful country, situated just beneath Australia at the bottom of the Pacific Ocean.

No no no, we are East of Australia; they are our 'West Island'.
We are in the South Pacific Ocean and haven't been at the bottom of the ocean for millions of years!

Originally posted by Whine Flu
What's even better is the fact that NZ is full of extermely ignorant people, too.

Yes, such as people who think we are below Australia. :\

Originally posted by vehemes terra eternusWe are under English sovereignty

Not since 1907.

Originally posted by vehemes terra eternusHenry Kissinger was over here back in the early 80's trialing a cashless society system, EFTPOS.

Rothschilds have been buying land here too.

Originally posted by vehemes terra eternusThere is also an American 'communications' base at the top of the South Island that intercepts international calls to provide intelligence.

Yes, Waihopai, it's part of the UKUSA/ECHELON network. There is another GCSB base at Tangimoana which is just as important but gets less coverage.
There is an excellent book about this by Nicky Hager: "Secret Power - New Zealand's Role in the International Spy Network" with a foreword by David Lange.

Originally posted by vehemes terra eternusNew Zealand has worldwide notoriety

What are we notorious for? Notoriety implies something 'bad'.

Originally posted by vehemes terra eternus I have been living in New Zealand my whole life (24) and the research I have conducted relating to this issue ties in rather nicely with the information here......

I would go back and do some more research seeing as there are blatant errors already!

I'm not disagreeing entirely with your premise, just the disregard for the 'facts'.

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Also worth a mention is our own Prime Minister John Key's ties to the banking elite. He was a very wealthy businessman, and one of only four people invited to private discussions on the direction of the global economy, before he set his sights on NZ politics. I can't seem to find any information on this at the moment, but I'll look when I can.

Also Helen Clark, our ex PM has now taken the helm of the United Nations Development Programme. She has been part of an organization called Socialist International. Socialist International have numerous members in positions of power (such as Carol Browner, Obama's climate change 'czar'), have close ties to the UN, and intend to give more power to the UN, to eventually form a World Government structure.

I've started a thread on how they intend to use climate change to fund this reform into a world government structure here.

As we do, just like anywhere else, have a lot of ignorant people. But I do believe we have a lot of free thinkers willing to question the status quo as well. I think it's great we have magazines such as Uncensored (must read for me) in mainstream media outlets, and investigative journalists such as Ian Wishart. His new book Air Con is a wonderful peice of investigative journalism, and have given it to some of my friends and family to open their eyes to the myths of AGW.

As far as an uprising goes, there would need to be a considerable amount of deceit and corruption in the open for people to consider it. Because quite frankly, what have we got at present to rise up against??

Edit to add I can't view the videos at present (damn restrictions) at work.

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Yes we are East of Australia but we are also South and Notoriety doesn't have too imply something bad you ignoramus. Ok we are not at the bottom of the Pacific but we are close and we are under parliamentary sovereignty which is English. The Crown still holds sway, there is just no need to exercise it's 'supreme' powers.......... yet.

I realise I may not have worded my post perfectly but how about you focus on the main issue of the thread hmm?

Peace

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Hey there, Uncensored is a must read for me also, great magazine.

John Key is dodgy alright. Cut his teeth working for the Foreign Exchange Committee of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York. All of a sudden pops up riding the same wave of change as Obama. National and Key have been suspicious from the beginning, holding secret meetings and no being open with the public with regards to their agenda.

Hollowmen is a great documentary exposing their fraudulent practices.

The UN is pretty much a long range banking apparatus, set up by the globalists. Hellen had her sorry sights set on them from the beginning. Her 1st year she bumped New Zealand's contribution from $2 million to around $12 million. Then there was the $11 billion tax surplus and the $5 billion that magically disappeared from the books.

What have we got to rise up against??? There IS a considerable amount of deceit and corruption. The trouble is getting people to realise this. An uprising doesn't have to be pitchforks in the streets. I was thinking more along the lines of an information blitz and peaceful but powerful protest.

Peace

Edit to add, thank you Aoraki and Curious for the advice. I will be checking out Nicky and Ian's books for sure

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Originally posted by vehemes terra eternus
you ignoramus.
Peace

I would have interesting information to contribute to this thread, but when I get called an ignoramus fopointing out YOUR mistakes then I won't spend the time.

Enjoy.

Oh, and AirCon is a con by a right-wing religious fundamentalist who doesn't even appreciate good science.
I know this for a fact and that his article about it in a recent issue of 'Investigate' was pure hogwash.
I've seen the science, I'm at the 'coalface'.
He is wrong.

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To be fair, you pointing out the direction and position of NZ as erroneous was quite unnecessary. I could say you are wrong saying we're to the east, and that we are actually southeast, but that would be rather ignorant (oops, i guess I said it anyway ). But if you do have something to contribute, please do.

I'm curious, what do you mean by being at the "coal face"?
So do you believe in the IPCC's projections?
I take it you haven't actually read the book then, but I'd be interested to see where you think he erred. Do you disagree with the points he makes regarding climate change being used as a political tool to further a global government agenda?

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I just spent a year in your beautiful country, and yeah.. people are pretty much docile and complacent about most everything... cheerful though.. which is something I can't really say i can complain about.

you've got a renewable energy system, clean air, clean water, clean streets...
a health minded movement going on stronger per capita than here in the U.S. .. supplements. .cleanses.. alternative healing etc. .very popular..

you know things are gonna get real crazy soon globally and you're gonna be the best off down there.

i think you should be happy that there aren't that many militant types down there... less suspicion on you...

on the topic check out this photo i snapped while there.. thought it noteworthy.. get the "Key" ..

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/7001d8372ba9.jpg[/atsimg]

was interesting to see that.

heres a discussion on the New World Order Party down there..
www.abovetopsecret.com...
founded by some kid given a scolarship by a beef magnate.. forgot who..

we live in changing times..
do the best you can with the people you love..

we can be evangelistic and anti-change all we want..
but look around you the world is a hell hole..

and you guys have it great down there...

i was gonna stay indefinitely buy some land in the sticks of the south island live off the land.... but something brought me back here to the states.
a ...knowing.. i needed to be here for something.. call me weird.. but that's how it is..

one thing .. man your media especially the tabloids... CRAZY!!!
tom cruise this !! tom cruise's baby that! jeniffer aniston this!! .. like PLASTERED in posters all over store fronts...

pretty nuts...

you're a nation of sheep ad mit it.. for those of you who are aware.. just be spectators.. and blend in with the sheep...

you're one in a million down there.

iv'e gone from full fledged finger pointer ... to cool and calm observer in fascination actually happily anticipating what's to come.

i want big change.. and i can't wait to see it happen..

JUST so we can get to the end result...
which is something i dont think you would believe is possible...

you don't want fluoride?
get a water generator that gets water from humidity power it by solar.
simple.

we're GONNA have a new world.
we're GONNA have a new world order..
and we're gonna have different VERSIONS of that "order" as it evolves to perfection..

from the facist totalitarian genocidal early stages..

to the eternal..utopian.. resurrect everyone who ever lived totally ultra techno perfect spiritual final stage.


call me crazy but whatever.. i did alot of pondering of this type of stuff while down there.. considered EVERY angle.. every esoteric origin of the impetus for ti's inception.....
...and learned to bite the bullet..
thinking... if i were to protest them rearranging the world...
what the hell would i be fighting against? I'd be fighting against what i secretly wished i had the balls to do in the first place.

everybody's gonna go through the NWO changeover.

be lucky you get to go through it in paradise.

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Paradise? Dude, it's miserable and rainy in Wellington all the time apart from Summer!

Originally posted by Whine Flu
Paradise? Dude, it's miserable and rainy in Wellington all the time apart from Summer!

then move to Takapuna.

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Why do you put your own country down?

Have you done market research to determine that NZ is full of ignorant people?

Of course you haven't.

Be proud of your country.

NZ is small, but NZ is a battler. Haven't you noticed what your forefathers did in the world wars?

Haven't you noticed that we have kept the US's nukes out of our country?

If young people like you continue to rubbish this country instead of defend it, we are lost.

Hey amigos,

Aoraki I apologise for calling you an ignoramus it was poor form. Let's end this beef right now. If you have any more information I would welcome it.

Prevenge great post and glad to hear you loved New Zealand.
I feel very lucky to live in Aotearoa, one of the safest countries in the world. I'm sure it would remain so if the SHTF.

I know we have it great down here but there are still serious problems. We shouldn't have to put up with this corrupt system and the complacent media, nor should anyone. Yes, there will be a new world order but we have the ability to affect the final outcome. If we do nothing and just observe they will push us as close to the edge as possible. No government knows any limits to its power except the endurance of the people.

There are many more than one in a million. Let's just say that there are plans in the pipeline..............

Originally posted by vehemes terra eternus
Hey amigos,

Aoraki I apologise for calling you an ignoramus it was poor form. Let's end this beef right now. If you have any more information I would welcome it.

All good bro, I blame the Speights.
For what it is worth, accept my apology too.
Of course I'll keep looking in here, it's a thread about my beloved New Zealand!
Busy day today, but I might get some time to post later.



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I'll tell you what, if I'm to defend this country I'll be defending it for what I believe in, and not what the military believes in. Do you think market research counts for anything? It really doesn't.

It's not the older people of this country that concern me, for they're pretty cynical and smart, and that's great. The older New Zealanders have a pioneering spirit, admirable personalities, and warm generosity. It's my generation that worries me. My generation is uncultured, and forever brought up to believe that you're nothing unless you work in an office, looking down on other people.

Attitudes like this force important life skills out of the children. The children end up just giving into mediocrity and have grown into a bunch of smug idiots, really.

It's what I see around me, and I'm just saying it how it is. Sorry if this is a burden for you, but it's better I tell the truth about the situation than lie and say we live in paradise.

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Better a cruel truth than a gentle lie.

I would have to agree with you. The younger generation has become lost amidst the pages of propaganda that spew forth from the Anglo-American empire. Our culture has become a Pom/Yank hybrid and the current trends are disturbing to say the least.

I love New Zealand but the direction we are heading in has me gravely concerned. An intervention is needed if we are to ever see meaningful change.

Stay tuned.........