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Originally posted by RRconservative
On September 11, 2001 terrorists slammed planes into the World Trade Center, the Pentagon, and another crashed into Pennslyvania after a heroic attempt to take on the terroist hijackers.
Where is the lie?
Also this video is brought to use by 9/11 Truth? Then why do they call 9/11 a lie? I'm confused, is 9/11 true or is it a lie? Or do they hate America so much that is doesn't matter?
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.
- Benjamin Franklin
Originally posted by king9072
Hey look, it's one of the millions of ignorant Americans which has allowed unconstitutional laws get passed, thousands of our soldiers to die in Iraq, trillions of wasted spending, domestic surveillance programs, increased police state measures, and ultimately has sacrificed his freedom in exchange for a little bit of perceived safety.
Hope your happy. It's amazing how in 2009 with the internet at every single persons finger tips the prevalence of ignorance is almost unchanged.
Originally posted by RRconservative
Originally posted by king9072
Hey look, it's one of the millions of ignorant Americans which has allowed unconstitutional laws get passed, thousands of our soldiers to die in Iraq, trillions of wasted spending, domestic surveillance programs, increased police state measures, and ultimately has sacrificed his freedom in exchange for a little bit of perceived safety.
Hope your happy. It's amazing how in 2009 with the internet at every single persons finger tips the prevalence of ignorance is almost unchanged.
Unconstitutional laws? Like what?
Soldiers dieing in war? Many more thousands of non-soldiers die on our highways every year....what is your point?
Trillions in wasted spending.....I thought this was about Bush...not Obama.
Domestic surveillance against people communicating with terrorist? Totally for it.
Increased Police State measures......I know cops are getting out of hand with the speeding tickets, but when tax reciepts are down they are out for the cash it brings in.
Sacrificing freedom? I have not sacrificed any freedom, if sacrificing freedom means I can talk freely with terrorists overseas...well I never did that in the first place, so I sacrificed nothing.
[edit on 24-7-2009 by RRconservative]
"Cataclysmic change - like a new Pearl Harbor"
- Dick Cheney et al. (Rebuilding Americas Defenses in the 21st Century) Sept. 2000
Originally posted by king9072
Originally posted by RRconservative
On September 11, 2001 terrorists slammed planes into the World Trade Center, the Pentagon, and another crashed into Pennslyvania after a heroic attempt to take on the terroist hijackers.
Where is the lie?
Also this video is brought to use by 9/11 Truth? Then why do they call 9/11 a lie? I'm confused, is 9/11 true or is it a lie? Or do they hate America so much that is doesn't matter?
Hey look, it's one of the millions of ignorant Americans which has allowed unconstitutional laws get passed, thousands of our soldiers to die in Iraq, trillions of wasted spending, domestic surveillance programs, increased police state measures, and ultimately has sacrificed his freedom in exchange for a little bit of perceived safety.
Originally posted by RRconservative
reply to post by king9072
The only ignorance I see is you going from "thousands" of dead soldiers to "tens of thousands" when questioned. How much more questioning would it take to get you to "hundreds of thousands" or even "millions?"
Ever heard of the magazine "Popular Mechanics?"
As there is an average of 10 failed suicide attempts for each actual loss of life, the figures suggest that more than 1,600 serving army and marine personnel tried to kill themselves last year.
Army Secretary Pete Geren told the Associated Press that "we cannot tell you" why the number of military suicides was rising. It is indisputable, however, that it is linked to the stresses on soldiers caused by the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. In 2002, the army suicide rate was just 9.8 per 100,000. The last time it exceeded the civilian rate was in the late 1960s, at the highpoint of the US war in Vietnam.
An estimated 30 percent of soldiers who took their own lives in 2008 did so while on deployment. Another 35 percent committed suicide after returning from a tour of duty. In one reported case, a highly regarded marine pilot hanged himself just one month before he was scheduled to return to Iraq.
Dozens of men and women who have left the armed forces since serving in Afghanistan or Iraq also committed suicide in 2008. The Department of Veterans Affairs recorded 144 such cases. The suicide rate among veterans aged 20 to 24 was 22.9 per 100,000 in 2007—four times higher than non-veterans in the same age bracket. A hotline for veterans has received over 85,000 calls since mid-2007 and arranged some 2,100 suicide prevention interventions.
Source
Veterans Affairs (VA) reported in January that 178,483 veterans of the two wars had been diagnosed with one or more mental illnesses between 2002 and September 2008. The conditions diagnosed included 92,998 cases of possible PTSD; 63,009 possible depressive disorders; 50,569 neurotic disorders; 35,937 cases of affective psychoses; 27,246 cases of drug abuse and 16,217 cases of alcohol dependency.
Source
Originally posted by TheAgentNineteen
Your reply completely failed to address the issue which "RRconservative" brought forth. Why are you deflecting from the topic at hand, are you simply another Capitol Hill Politician?
Originally posted by RRconservative
reply to post by king9072
The only ignorance I see is you going from "thousands" of dead soldiers to "tens of thousands" when questioned. How much more questioning would it take to get you to "hundreds of thousands" or even "millions?"
Ever heard of the magazine "Popular Mechanics?"
Originally posted by RRconservative
Where is the lie?
Originally posted by Talisman
The Song Lyrics were great, but to use the bee gees image or song without their premission and attach it like that, I don't agree with that personally.
Originally posted by talisman
I believe 9/11 was an inside job, or that I lean heavily in that direction. However, I don't like the video. The Song Lyrics were great, but to use the bee gees image or song without their premission and attach it like that, I don't agree with that personally.
posted by RRconservative
reply to post by king9072
Ever heard of the magazine "Popular Mechanics?"