Warnings From The Benevolents!

Originally posted by stereologist
reply to post by win 52

 

Hopi Prophesy has been passed down verbally for thousands of years and only recently put to paper.

That's a falsehood. It is new.

Can you prove there was no Hopi prophesy passed down through the generations of Hopi people for thousands of years? In this case, I would likely trust the word of a Hopi elder. The person I am talking about will have done self examination to the extent of being trustworthy. The type of person I would be able to trust in what he/she says. Are you such a person?

I prefer sources closer to the native communities, or ones from the area itself perhaps, but the Hopi Culture has been studied for many decades ,centuries.

www.thedreammasters.org...
Grandfather Martin Gashweseoma

Traditional Hopi Elder and Guardian of the
Sacred Stone Tablets of the Fire Clan

josephalmighty.multiply.com...

Chief Dan Evehema, Grandfather Martin Gashweseoma and son-in-law Emery Homes shared wisdom's about the stones how they came to be and current events and where about of the sacred tablets. The presentation took over 2 hours but according to the Chief Martin & Emery to get the full details you would need 8 to 9 days. This is what was recorded of this conversation.

Seems their elders have given talks, were very well respected, and even went before the U.N.

www.manataka.org...

The Eldest Elder, 106-year-old, Hopi elder Dan Evemhema, Kahmahoniwa, is a spiritual leader of the Roadrunner Clan Society, a Snake Priest, and Kachina Father. He is a traditionalist who has found himself frequently in disagreement with Progressives on the Hopi Tribal Council, due largely to outside negative influences.. A life-long resident of Hotevilla, Arizona, Chief Evemhema is the most revered and most quoted elder of the Hopi people. His "Messages to Mankind," begun many years ago, are partly his interpretation of previous fulfillments of ancient Hopi prophesies and his own divine revelations of coming events. We are honored to present his 1996 'Messages to Mankind'.

www.manataka.org...

jahtruth.net...

Chief Dan Evehema's
Message to
Mankind
&
The Nine Signs

www.dreamscape.com...
Hopi message to the United Nation


www.ausbcomp.com...

Going to quote here because for someone who is actually interested in learning a bit, instead of going around on threads saying, no, no its not so, as if many would even want to walk his shoes, and considering how closed minded he is, I hope he's getting a paycheck because it would be sad to really think he is this way.

Native have over 80% genetics of east asia, (though I have read accounts of ancient Mongolia and middle east tribes were there too so this could be reflective of some groups), with the rest European dna markers. The intense language study done, from North to South America, including written languages such as Bella Coola, BC, showed strong relationship to not only Chinese/Mongolian, but Korean and Japanese.

So the information below and some links to Egypt even isn't all that surprising. So much of our ancient history is lost.

The Ant People

Thomas Mills' book, "The Truth" was first featured in Clamor Six.
Since then we have been in email contact and he has sent me
some more discoveries in his book.
"I have learned not to discount what the Hopi say."

Tom also sent me this URL: Archaeology 3. It is further substantiation of his book and here it is just as it came from the Web.

Egyptian Artifacts in the Grand Canyon
The Phoenix Gazette - April 5, 1909:
Remarkable Finds Indicate Ancient People Migrated From Orient: ......


The latest news of the progress of the explorations or what is now regarded by Scientists as not only the oldest archaeological discovery in the United States, but one of the most valuable in the world, which was mentioned some time ago in the Gazette, was brought to the city yesterday by G.E. Kinkaid, the explorer who found the great underground citadel of the Grand Canyon during a trip from Green River, Wyoming, down the Colorado, in a wooden boat, to Yuma, several months ago.

According to the story related to the Gazette by Mr. Kinkaid, the archaeologists of the Smithsonian Institute, which is financing the expeditions, have made discoveries which almost conclusively prove that the race which inhabited this mysterious cavern, hewn in solid rock by human hands, was of oriental origin, possibly from Egypt, tracing back to Ramses.

If their theories are borne out by the translation of the tablets engraved with hieroglyphics, the mystery of the prehistoric peoples of North America, their ancient arts, who they were and whence they came will be solved. Egypt and the Nile, and Arizona and the Colorado will be linked by a historical chain running back to ages, which staggers the wildest fancy of the fictionist.

Under the direction of Professor. SA. Jordan, the Smithsonian Institute is now prosecuting the most thorough explorations, which will be continued until the last link in the chain is forged.

Nearly a mile underground, about 1480 feet below the surface, the long main passage has been delved into, to find another mammoth chamber from which radiates scores of passageways, like the spokes of a wheel.

Several hundred rooms have been discovered, reached by passageways running from the main passage, one of them having been explored are 854 feet and another 634 feet. The recent finds include articles, which have never been known as native to this country and doubtless they had their origin in the orient. .....


THE HIEROGLYPHICS:
"On all the urns, or walls over doorways, and tablets of stone which were found by the image are the mysterious hieroglyphics, the key to which the Smithsonian Institute hopes yet to discover. The engraving on the tablets probably has something to do with the religion of the people. Similar hieroglyphics have been found in southern Arizona. Among the pictorial writings, only two animals are found. One is of prehistoric type.

THE CRYPT:
"The tomb or crypt in which the mummies were found is one of the largest of the chambers, the walls slanting back at an angle of about 35 degrees. On these are tiers of mummies, each one occupying a separate hewn shelf. At the bead of each is a small bench, on which is found copper cups and pieces of broken swords. Some of the mummies are covered with clay, and all are wrapped in a bark fabric. The urns or cups on the lower tiers are crude, while as the higher shelves are reached, the urns are finer in design, showing a later stage of civilization.

"It is worthy of note that all the mummies examined so far have proved to be male, no children or females being buried here. This leads to the belief that this exterior section was the warriors' barracks. ....



AN INDIAN LEGEND:
In connection with this story, it is notable that among the Hopi Indians the tradition is told that their ancestors once lived in an underworld in the Grand Canyon till dissension arose between the good and the bad, the people of one heart and people of two hearts. Machetto, who was their chief, counselled them to leave the under world, but there was no way out.

This is just examples of how things correlate, whereas those who wish to shut down information, (while we all know all the leaders and scholars have already taken all the info and meshed them together and know the true history) they try to divide and conquer, when something is publishes by a university scholar or put in the paper, and elder gives a speech, the ones trying to suppress knowledge hope everyone forgets it all.

So Mr. know it all, suppressor of knowledge, do some real research with an open mind, and start to connects dots. I always think people who don't arent just sheeples they're a bit like zombies.

This here is a tiny tiny tip of the iceburg. And I have no intention of going through 50 pages on this thread trying to do it justice.

www.viewzone.com...
The Anthills of Orion: Ancient Star Beings of the Hopi

by Gary A. David
(published by Atlantis Rising, # 48, Nov./Dec. 2004 under the title ìThe Ant People of Orionî)

The Hopi term for Orion is HotÚmqam, which literally means either "to string up" (as beads on a string) or "trey." This could refer to the three stars of Orion's belt but also to the tripartite form of the ant: head, thorax, and abdomen. These shiny, bead-like sections of the ant's body may have their celestial counterpart in what the Hopi consider the most important constellation in the heavens. The appearance of Orion through the overhead hatchways of Hopi kivas (semi-subterranean prayer chambers) still synchronizes many annual sacred ceremonies....

www.robertmorningsky.com...
The terra papers pre-date Sitchin!

his preview on his site:
www.robertmorningsky.com...

Instead of saying research is all wrong or being critical of sites and authors, which tend to cooridnate a lot of information, surprisingly enough, perhaps using your own fingers and going down the list, and independently researching each word or phrase, might bring more information(it should not bring less for this has been well studied and looked at topic).

A look at their many pictographs and more information as well.
here
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(Part 1) Indigenous Native American Prophecy (Elders Speak part 1)


(Part 2) Indigenous Native American Prophecy (Elders Speak part 2)


(Part 3) Indigenous Native American Prophecy (Elders Speak part 3)


(Part 4) Indigenous Native American Prophecy (Elders Speak part 4)


(Part 5) Indigenous Native American Prophecy (Elders Speak part 5)


(Part 6) Indigenous Native American Prophecy (Elders Speak part 6) Ojibwa Warrior: Dennis Banks

Perhaps should listen to and watch some of their own productions and videos. They're eductational too.

In video 5, around 3 10, she brings up something I have heard before. We do not give. All other life gives to the cycles, but all we do is take, we take yet do not give.






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Hopi prophecy 2012 Rare video part 1.avi


Hopi prophecy 2012 Rare video part 2.avi


Hopi prophecy 2012 Rare video part 3.avi


Hopi prophecy 2012 Rare video part 4.avi


Hopi prophecy 2012 Rare video part 5.avi

These look informative.

I have taken notes from part two of (Part 2) Indigenous Native American Prophecy (Elders Speak part 2) two posts up.

Here is the wisdom represented in Indigneous Native Culture. These are my favorite humans on this planet, though I love all unconditionally, and though I wish to see progression and clean advancement and technology and that we join the cosmos, we must do so with wisdom, balance and respect for all life and this planet. They are the leaders and the keepers of the way, one does not have to live in primitive, past era conditions, to do this, but one cannot go along, mindlessly accepting the will of corporations and bloodlines who have appointed themselves not only elites, but also your "testers" in a twisted way, not realize they're back ends are on the line and they're being tested too.

We are called to be RESONSIBLE, and awaken.
Some on this thread, which may or may not be depciting a real hardship ahead for many, which may mean we need to be prepared and put our houses in order and work for the opposite (whatever comes it depends upon both our awareness, good will and love, and our responsibility), would like to convince you that your brain doesnt work, you are incapable of understanding history and to just be a machine that obeys the lies peddled by Corporate America.

Between that one in particular, who I am thinking of, and this man, who I will quote, in my notes, there is NO comparison.

Quotes from One Filled With Wisdom, and Taking Responsiblity.

(who are the natural leaders?)

--First of all you have to observe that all children have a common leader, you watch children play and it doesnt take you very long to see who the leader is. Now you have to guide that person... Because there are natural leaders.

--Most important thing I would think is that the leadership change their values from power and authority to responsiblity.

--..Bill of Rights...and I think that should have been a Bill of Responsibility. ....Leadership has got to have that above all. They've got to have vision, they've got to have compassion for the future, they've got to make that decision for the seven generations, thats not just a casual term, thats a real instruction for survival.


--Animal, every bird, every nation, every plant, has its own area to be and you respect that.

--And no tree grows by itself. A tree is a community... Certain plants will gather around certain trees. And certain medicines will gather around those certain plants. So if you kill all the trees, if you cut all the trees, then you're destroying the community, you're not just destroying the tree, you're destroying a whole community that surrounds it, that thrives on it, and that may be very important medicine....(for people and animals)

We learned by watching the animals. They taught us alot. Where is the medicine?...

--And then if you replant the tree, you don't replant the community, you replant the tree, so you've lost a community, and if you clearcut, which is what is happening in America and Canada (and the world) then you're really a very destructive force.

And simply replanting trees is not replanting community. You lost alot. If you don't understand that, you will and that understanding comes in a very difficult manner.

--And of the 100 dominant economic units in the world today, a 100 largest economic units and thats the word they use, units, 49 are countries, and 51 are corporations.

--Now, digest that for a second. What does that mean? It means that corporations are the driving force of decision making today and corporations are not concerned with human rights, they're not concerned with human life, they're not even concerned for a proper wage for people that are working for them.

So What Kind Of Decisions Are Going To Be Made On Our Behalf?

...Well there's going to be hell to pay for some of the things that are going on now.

So people have to become aware and become awake... powers always in the people's hands, authority, and they need to come of ONE MIND. They need to challenge the values that are being chucked at them today because this has become a consumer society, its driven by economics, its not driven by common sense.

-----A group of boys who had done something bad and they were sitting in front of the Chief (they were trying to find out who was the leader of them), and one old chief said, "well, you know its not good sense to follow somebody just because, why? you cannot give me an answer why you follow him, but if he was going to do something like jumping off a cliff, would you follow him?

Use your sense!!! Use your common sense. And then he said, "Everybody should be their own leader."

In other words, do your thinking for yourself!"

On that note, this whole thread is like that, including prophecies and legends. Do your thinking for yourself. Be your own leader. And use your common sense!



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From video 3, my third post up, this was worth taking notes on too, as this is profound, and applies to this thread, and what being a responsible means, and what losing options every day you don't do the right thing means.

--No, the world won't end. People's life on it will. So its not the end of the world you're talking about, its the end of us. And the world, no matter what damage you think you've done to it, will regenerate...

--As you're coming down the final stetch, there is the stone wall and you're not pulling your horse. You're not stopping, in fact you're accelerating. And now, that is what I see the use of what you call resources. You're using them faster than they're reproducing...

--Do you have a concept of a yellow flag, do you have a yellow flag amongst your ideas, your thinkng?

--One of the gentlemen, and they were all men...he said, you know I understand what you're saying, but to answer your question, no we can't, we can't pull our horse as you say. Because he said, we have to show a profit. As a CEO, I must show a profit. If I don't show a profit, he said, I'm fired.
...

I said, well, are you married?
Yes I am.
Do you have children?
Yes I do.
I said, do you have any grandchildren?
He said, I have 2, 2 boys.
When do you cease to be a CEO, and become a grandfather?

There was alot of silence there, because that was a moral question. And if you don't have a moral question in your governing process, you don't have a process that's going to survive.
Thats the governing law, a moral question, you must have a moral society...

Every day you don't do what's right is a day you're losing your options. And you're losing your options every day.

What can we learn from the prophecies and legends of old, from the fortellings of what will be the finish of our era, the greed and abuse of mother earth and treating all life, our own, and all of nature, as if its nothing, but a resource, to be managed by corporations, for profit?

Remember, these profits are made from murder: war and disease, suffering, trauma, from not sharing science and progress, but keeping ideas and discoveries, and knowledge under lock and key.

We are called to missions each and every one of us, tests, for some, but they also are called for higher purpose as well. Missions is a more healthy term.

Why do journalists work under conditions that cap their ability to share information with us, and when they do display the horrors of this world, why do they not interview people to discuss solutions?

Why do people cling to employment in resources and jobs when they are unethical and destroying this world?

Would not it be wiser, better, to really examine what free enterprise and true, responsible business (for they should be ours, not a belonging to a few hundred or so individuals when its all boiled down through the subsidaries), our childrens, our grandchildrens, true captialism is not an enemy to social reform or cooperation in any way shape or form. True enterrpise is a human effort. And its only limited by our dreams and what we can shape or form.

We need to take risks? We need to create ethical and enviro businesses that share the profilt equally with workers, paving the way to a new world. We need to start new news media, and journalists who dissatisfied can group up and get something going.

We the consumer, need to wake up and start to duplicate ethical versions in our own neighborhoods and communities of these unethical monsters, and start to meet up and discuss.

Some things are best done to keep prices down and yet gateways open, like co-ops, where we all have shares.

Why are we allowing this unethical, immoral destruction of our world, our future, our resources, and our minds to continue?

Many of us are out of work, working at substandard wages, and some working at unethical businesses. Group up and make some new ones.

And for others, only buy from, that which is ethical, moral, preferably community based, but promotes equality in wages, and clean sustainable life on earth.

I personally think everyone needs to be self sufficient to the degree that they could survive numerous catastrophes, or dangers. And they would be healthier too if half their food or more was home grown.

Everyone needs to find alternative energy supplies.

We can create eco villages, and gardens inside cities out of neighborhoods.

I also think, that first nations people are the ones to lead the way.

We don't need to work 3 jobs, in fact, job sharing with equal profit from our businesses, and reduced hours with time to spend with family and in our gardens is the highest good.

I personally believe if NWO, or a series of disasters come our way, its because WE AREN'T BEING RESPONSIBLE.

It seems our nature is to control all things that come to our attention. When we ask ourselves the nature of this control, we can then discover which direction we are leaning with the control we bring about. Whether the humanitarian aspect has been met or we are doing things that directly or indirectly hurt other people.

Here is a key. Use it wisely.

Being a Toltec warrior is not about a book, it is about a state of being a person can achieve. We need to live in the here and now and take into consideration how our actions affect others.

In order to be a CEO of a large corporation, a person must be ruthless and heartless. This does not bode well for the people who use the services of these corporations because the corporation will use and abuse you for profit. There is nothing human about corporate decisions.

reply to post by win 52


Unless people wake up, and start to think, because businesses are natural outcomes, natural creative ways to organize and advance goods and services. Instead of allowing them to dwindle into the hands of the few, it only takes people supporting each other to create ethical healhty ones amongst themselves, and then for others to do their bit, put your money only into worthy decent responsible compassionate hands.

Those over our heads are only enjoying their success because we didn't realize we could organize ourselves.

Networking is hard for people apparently, we're all in our boxes and we're taught unforunately that the ones with the most success, the more well healed amongst us, the ones with less health problems, and less poverty, are the ones to listen to.

Instead, they should start to do the opposite, and from teh bottom up, start talking to each other support each other and recreate. Value each other. Include all. This world is hard, so all people, no matter their incomes, their work status, their employment status, their personality, their problems with family or circumstances, even ones stuck in addictions, they all need to wake up and support each other's successes.

We can't wait for the current crop of bought off well healed leaders to do it, and we have to stop putting each other and ourselves down, and start to see everyone as a trooper, someone surviving in harsh conditions, so warts and all, we're filled with so much wisdom, and work together in groups, talk and problem solve.

From the bottom up swell up a new world, and a new way of doing business. Ours. Not theirs. The top of the pyramid can fall off, for there will be no support from the bottom.

Then maybe they, the world's mismanagement team, will have to do what it takes to join our world for survival. Like shave a big fat circle/ZERO, on their heads and don some simple clothes, move into tents or trailers and commit the rest of their lives and dwindling resources to serving, helping, to prove they've repented.

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I have come to realize that ETman may be a nice guy and all and have helpfull advice for people.
But,. to the original posting he made,..
Bunk,.. it is a prediction,.. nothing less and is not going to happen

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reply to post by win 52


It was unknown till 1957. That's pretty recent.

reply to post by Unity_99


The pictograph is not Hopi. It's Fremont. Please do a little research before getting things all messed up.

reply to post by Unity_99


Is this the crank that claims stones exist all over the world? That guy is so laughable.

Originally posted by Unity_99

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There we go.

Anyone know what this is all about?

If you think this was just a casual rock painting you may be in for a surprise.

- Lee

With all sorts of long winded posts and lots of videos still no evidence to support that the Hopi prophecies are old. Of course, some snotty nosed teenager might think that the 1950s is ancient.

reply to post by stereologist


Great so now he has a problem with teenagers. What next puppies?

reply to post by Mad dog


Please quote me correctly.

So who else misses Et man?
Does anyone know when he will be back?
This thread is about so much more than 2011. I hope all is well and you come back soon.

reply to post by Mad dog


I have asked everyone to send light and love to him, for whatever is concerning him, to resolve everything to the Highest possible good.