New Planet Discovered In Our Solar System

What ever happened to the new planet that was discovered in our solar system a few years ago that scientists thought might be habitable?

Here is a link discussing its discovery on CBS News at about the 2 minute mark:

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Here is a link discussing it on the BBC:

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So what happened to this planet that was discovered? Did it just evaporate or what? They stated in the video that they had proof by recorded data that it had existed for 20 years before it was actually discovered in our solar system.

It's different than the rest of the planets in the fact that it is at a supposed 45 degree angle from the sun compared to the rest of the planets in our solar system.

So... what happened to this planet that they thought might be habitable?

There are several Kuiper Belt Objects that are dwarf planets.

Eris, MakeMake, Chaos, Logos, Haumea.

There is a dwarf between Mars and Jupiter named Ceres.

Anyways here is a list.

en.wikipedia.org...

I cannot imagine why Couric would have said it might be habitable. I cannot imagine why anyone would asusme that something in the Kuiper Belt would be habitable.

I believe you're referring to Eris. It was never thought to be habitable.
Eris


[edit on 6/24/2009 by Phage]

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Eris, formal designation 136199 Eris, is the largest known dwarf planet in the Solar System and the ninth-largest body known to orbit the Sun directly. It is approximately 2,500 kilometres in diameter and 27% more massive than Pluto.[9][12]

Eris was first spotted in January 2005 by a Palomar Observatory-based team led by Mike Brown, and its identity verified later that year. It is a trans-Neptunian object (TNO) native to a region of space beyond the Kuiper belt known as the scattered disc. Eris has one moon, Dysnomia; recent observations have found no evidence of further satellites. The current distance from the Sun is 96.7 AU,[10] roughly three times that of Pluto. With the exception of some comets the pair are the most distant known natural objects in the Solar System.[2]

Because Eris is larger than Pluto, its discoverers and NASA called it the Solar System’s tenth planet. This, along with the prospect of other similarly sized objects being discovered in the future, motivated the International Astronomical Union (IAU) to define the term planet for the first time. Under a then-new IAU definition approved on August 24, 2006, Eris is a "dwarf planet" along with Pluto, Ceres, Haumea and Makemake.[13]

en.wikipedia.org...(dwarf_planet)

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Surface temp: minus 230 Celsius on average.


It is Eris, case closed...IMO

[edit on 6/24/2009 by jkrog08]

I can't believe I'm the first to come in this tread and say...


NIBIRU!!!

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I cannot imagine why Couric would have said it might be habitable. I cannot imagine why anyone would asusme that something in the Kuiper Belt would be habitable.

Well, I cannot imagine why we would assume that it couldn't be inhabitable. Silly humans. Maybe we are going the way of the whales and will "beach" ourselves in the sea soon enough. Too little time left for all of this fun. We have become all knowing in our own minds in my opinion.

Are we having fun yet? Maybe a little to snarky here but what are our assumptions? Is it that all truth flows threw us somehow? For what reason? Are we God manifested, and if that is the case why do we kill (animals, trees, all life) with reckless abandon? Print another trillion and call me.

Basically, it looks to me like life could survive on any planet for a long time except ours. What do I know? Random guy in a random forum on random internet on random planet with random warming star and random silly little galaxy trapped in a random "universe". Oh man the coincidences....

In the first video, they state it might be habitable.

In the other video, they don't say anything about it being habitable.

It is so far out in space, that it would seem nearly impossible for it to be habitable, but strange things do occur...

Here is its orbit, and it is called "Eris".

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Any life form bases on OUR standard model of life would not be able to exist on Eris. Unless they were not in our standard model or they had artificial bases there. But in all probability there is nothing there IMO. I would not waste your time on this one, all the Kuiper objects were HEAVILY, HEAVILY looked into in a recent thread by member Taymour who claimed he had photos taken of one of them showing artificial structures. Me and internos did all we could but it was likely a hoax or dead end, Just some advice.


Thread...www.abovetopsecret.com...

[edit on 6/24/2009 by jkrog08]

S&F! Good find my friend.. "Earth like qualities?" haha Katie Mnemonic!

I'm sure someone could point out extremophiles (sp?)? Don't they live in the geisers, RussianScientists?

Life can thrive in extremely high temperatures, pressures - they can consume or breathe sulphur. It's very plausible that our solar system is teeming with life, if only at the micro scale.. (except for humans ... for now .. hehe )

Before everyone goes crazy on this, let us keep in mind there are FAR MORE LIKELY CANDIDATES closer in our system. Venus, Mars, Jupiter or Saturn moons to name the main ones. Hell, even some asteroids or comets. Maybe one of these TNOs (Trans Neptunian Objects), but the places we should worry about are Venus, Mars, and Jovian and Saturnian satellites,IMO. That would be a first huge step.

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The two videos are discussing two different unrelated objects.

The first video is from CBS News and Katie Couric and is talking about the extra-solar planet Gliese 581c, whose discovery was announced in April 2007 -- the same time this news report is from.

Gliese 581c is NOT in our solar system...it's a planet orbiting the star Gliese 581. Katie Couric (and her producer) seemed to be a bit confused as to the location of this planet. They then further confused the TV audience by talking about this new extra-solar planet in the same breath with the planets that make up OUR solar system.

When Gliese 581c was first announced in April 2007, they DID think it was orbiting in its star's habitable zone, but since then more research has cast some doubt on this.

Here's an article from 2007 when the planet was first discovered, but keep in mind that some new observations made since this article was written seem to indicate that Gliesce 581c lies outside the habitable zone:
www.space.com...

The second video is talking about Eris, and (as others have said) Eris IS in our solar system -- and whose discovery is what caused Pluto to be demoted to "Dwarf Planet" (along with Eris, Ceres, and some other larger bodies). Eris was never thought to be habitable.

When Eris was discovered, it would have been possibly considered a planet under the "old" rules that also considered Pluto an planet. But instead of opening the title of "planet" to Eris and the many other Kuiper belt objects that are yet to be discovered (but probably DO exist), they redefined what it means to be a planet, so Pluto was demoted into a new class that included Eris.


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You could actually listen the the whole Couric spiel?

Originally posted by Phage
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You could actually listen the the whole Couric spiel?

Well -- yeah.

I was waiting for her or any of the "News" producers and assistant producers to mention that the planet in question was Gliese 581c (because I knew that's what they were talking about) -- however, they glossed over the whole "extra-solar planet may be in star's habitable zone" story to talk about more important things, like mnemonic devices for remembering planet names.

Maybe this was just out of the talking head's scope and she was confused, bad teleprompt, who knows?