Should ATS start monitoring members with extremist views?

reply to post by SkepticOverlord
Thankyou, Skepticoverlord.

Maybe ATS should monitor members that are sane and have no "extremist" views. Oh, and also those that post smiley pics after their comments. Oops.

Seriously, in answer to the question posed in the OP: Hell, no. [snip] no, and [snip] no! as my drill sergeant once remarked to a ridiculous question.

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[edit on 6-10-2009 by worldwatcher]

Barry Goldwater said it best:


“I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.”


Bloody shame he never made president. Between him, JFK, and Reagan (before Alheimers and his handlers took over) maybe we wouldnt have been where we are now.

Left and Right are passages’

Black and White are hues’

“Neil Peart of Rush”

How do you feel about the centrist take over of a far flung solar system?

Would that be ok?

Originally posted by mopusvindictus
Just get Santa Claus to do it, he has the best infrastructure I can think of...

Very unbiased...

Elves would be the only group of people I haven't seen yet come under attack as Racist or arrogant or imperialist etc, etc et al... here on ats to date

We could do this, but we'd have to leave it up to the Elves...

oh wait... that would make them elitist...

Dang!

nope can't be done

Elves are pretty racist and arrogant, just ask the Dwarves how they feel about them.

Oh and they're genocidal maniacs too! Always trying exterminate goblins, orcs, and trolls. Poor greenskins, everyone is always trying to exterminate them all the time. No wonder they're so angry.

There's only group of beings that this enormous task can be left to.

The Gnomes!

NSA is already monitoring us, they monitor all internet traffic.
But they don't read all internet traffic because that's impossible.
They scan it, and look for certain things.
However this would be for serious national security issues, not petty crimes.
If someone reports you to the FBI for threatening etc then they would deal with that.
I don't see why any site owners or admins would need to report people to anyone.

Here I am, I am a right wing domestic terrorist (by current definition) Constitution and Bill of Rights defending TRUE BELIEVER. Please come for me first as I am old and tired and have prepared for this battle for 25 years. Please come here FIRST as I have sent numerous of your Communist / Fascist scum to hell and await you. I am WELL armed and WELCOME your progressive statist bust through the door tactics; let the shots that herald my death be the second shot heard around the world. Come and let us dance, I await you.

I have something for you to monitor; 185 grain +P +P’s. Please come as I have an equal opportunity lead dispenser.



[edit on 6/10/2009 by SGTChas]

Originally posted by Valhall

5. Are you okay with the fact I find your idea extremist? And what do we do about that?

I love that one Val. Why would such a forum, especially one like ATS try to do something like that. The T&C's basically spell out what is and isn't allowed. As long as you stay within them, say whatever you want.

Thoughtpolice.........ugh.

It is not ATS's responsibility or obligation to "monitor" members with alleged "extremist views," especially when defining "extremist views," whether they be right wing or left wing, would be highly politically charged, divisive, and problematic. Certainly not good for business being ATS is a business, per se.'


[edit on 10-6-2009 by Seekerof]

Originally posted by Valhall
Since you started this proposition I'm thinking you consider yourself the most qualified to delineate the following:

1. What areas will qualify for determination of "extremism".
2. For each of the above, please provide the borders that delineate extremism in the given area.
3. Will the list be fixed, or will we add areas and borders for future safety?
4. Are you immovable (i.e. since you're the one determining all this, are you going to stay the same, or are we going to see areas and border drop off, be added, etc. according to who pisses you off?)


5. Are you okay with the fact I find your idea extremist? And what do we do about that?

You said it all.

Yes, I think this idea is extremist, intrusive, based on one person's idea of what "extremist" is, takes no account that maybe these behaviors are planted or actively encouraged, and will add most everyone eventually to the "watch" list.

In fact, it looks very much like it came from the PTB....

reply to post by DraconianKing

Gee. You don't like us on the right?

And all this time I always heard about how the left were so tolerant!

Don't worry. We on the right don't think much of those on the left. No. Really. We don't think much of you, or of you much.

And thank God Skeptic jumped right in.

The govt's handpuppet has spoken,so let it be.

Sound like we have another brainwashed by american media propoganda puppet who is feeding into alll the news he claims the right wingers are.

you're doing the exact same thing from the opposite side, so why is it you're not labeled the Domestic terrorist or extremist?

I love how everybody is so eager to help. McGruff the crimedog strikes again. Most of the time when people THINK they're helping, they're doing the cause more harm than good.

It doesn't matter what you monitor or report because life is going to play itself out no matter what. You can't stop destiny.

Man will be his own downfall, with his selfish greed and lack of respect for his fellow human. What's even worse is all the petty and menial points of views that people whine about that have absolutely no bearing on life.Most of us (not me,LOL) have become a bunch of spoiled whining sissies who have truly lost touch with reality.

reply to post by SGTChas


However, this is EXACTLY the sort of post that doesn't belong here.

You threaten violence against the OP? Are you kidding? No one should be talking about shooting people on these forums as it clearly breaks the TOS.

What's to stop the FBI from monitoring us all right now, themselves?

Say, here is a question I have. Does, or can, ATS include within their forum policy agreement, a notice that stipulates that MEMBERS of the government are NOT permitted to read anything here, copy and print anything here, for government purposes, of any kind? In other words, can the policy basically state either NO GOVERNMENT intrusion is allow, or rather, no government instrusion here without a SEARCH WARRANT? The government doesn't have a right to come into your home and start reading your diary, why should they be allowed to come here and read your thoughts .. without a warrant?

reply to post by DraconianKing


How about we monitor the left wing extremists who seek to impose their own little brand of socialism by instituting confiscatory tax rates and doing away with personal freedoms.

Lets start monitoring them first since they pose a much greater threat to freedom than the right wingers do.

Should ATS start monitoring members with extremist views?

Nope!! Thats why we have the F.B.I and the C.I.A.!! I would assume they monitor ATS just fine without our help. I enjoy this site and would want those who run it to do the same!!

These days if you don't wear a Che Gueverra T-shirt, have a rainbow sticker on your car or pee sitting down you are considered a "right wing extremist". If you are a heterosexual white male then you are already the great Satan by default.


I say if being a brainwashed Obamazombie and a Marxist keeps your name from being put on the watch list, then by all means.... put me on the damn list

reply to post by DraconianKing


That may be the most stupid and rediculous thing I have ever seen or heard, posted or said, on the internet or otherwise, anywhere. And I have been everywhere.

Clearly you were not here when these same people you want to shut up where doing the exact same thing during the Bush years. Let me clue you in on a few things.

1. No one gives a crap about the Presidents race, except you.

2. The people you are talking about were psychopaths, not terrorists. Sorry but they exist, and there is nothing you can do about that. Not long ago in Portland Some woman threw her children off a bridge and killed one of them. Another woman was murdered and a baby was cut from her womb and later killed. And another, this time a mother tossed her newborn in the bottom of a portable toilet, dead. Where is your moral outrage on this?

3. I am sorry that your saviour is a complete jackass and an economical retard. But it's not my fault. I voted for Ron Paul. You don't care how many articles of the Bill of Rights he shreds, in the exact same manner as his predecessor. It's ok for Obama to illegally bomb Pakistan, right? It's ok for Obama to continue the exact same preventive war policy that Hitler, and Goerge W. Bush did, right?

I guess you would prefer that he not be questioned and continue on his merry way, turning the the US Dollar into confetti. Well geuss what sweet cheeks? That's what you ordered, and thats what you got, don't fracken tell me I'm an extremist, the guy I wanted didn't want to kill anyone, or devalue our currency, nor did he want to wipe is butt with our Consitution. But Obama did, and Obama is at this moment, doing all of that.

Congrats, you picked a real winner. Deal with it.


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I really can't believe anyone here doesn't think this place is monitored by the FBI or any number of other agencies. I've read some very radical threads by people trying to garner support for armed revolutions and anarchy here in the USA. It's a thrill for them I guess.
The very day I connected to the internet (in 1998) I just assumed I was being watched and monitored and had good reason to feel that way. It can be liberating to think that way...interestingly enough. Leave notes for the NSA in your garbage. It's fun!

reply to post by Revealation


I'd pay good money to have an on-site ATS interpreter decipher you self-righteous "not me,LOL" commentary.



[edit on 10-6-2009 by Seekerof]