Amazing un-edited UFO video from Switzerland

I can't see those 'people' some people are talking about. Not at 1:12 or at 1:50-2:10.

Anyway, I'd like to emphasize that anyone who watched the whole thing from beginning to end will have to agree that if this a very hard thing to fake by actual people on the hill. Firstly this thing is not On the hill, it's infront of a bunch of trees, and it moves at least a few tree lenghts to either side, which would mean someone would have to hide themselves And a scaffold the size of a small plane in order for this to work.

Again, that just takes care of the 'people on the hill' theory. It doesn't rule out reflections/mirrors. Though the fact that the camera loses focus a number of times and the lights lose focus at the same rate as the hill trees suggests it's not a reflection from within the house.

What I'm seeing is a cloaked craft with no actual evidence of any kind suggesting it's a fake. I can't believe people on the biggest UFO forum in the known world are so fast to disregard this amazing footage. I mean, to the naked eye it's alien cloaking technology and you're all like "Well, I've seen this before, probably nothing *yawn*"...

reply to post by warrenb


Those are terrestrial UFOs. They have been around since the 1950s in various models.

Same crafts in the footage and in many other videos:
videolog.uol.com.br...

You can't see the people walking back and forth but you CAN see a cloaked UFO?

Where is Switzerland was this, the area/town?

The footage recorded is 100% real based on what I know
from the 1990s.

I will answer comments from "Content From External Source":

>it seems that there is one big invisible mothership,

They do have motherships, but their technology is not there yet
in terms of true invisible shield. But they do have shields.

>nd a few little drones which appear as lights

They are not drones. A human pilot is inside. 2 per craft.
They can be controlled remotely.

>stealth technology to reflect and refract the light so it gets invisible

Yes.

>then the alien or what it is, walks into the direction of the lights,
>kneels down, and then runs (very fast) away.

I don't understand what you mean by that. Maybe its just how you
are interpreting it?

bye

Originally posted by warrenb
length: ~46min
April 2009 at 15:00 (3:00pm) in Switzerland

2.95 Gb Raw Unedited video footage of UFO's and some sort of entity.

it seems that there is one big invisible mothership, and a few little drones which appear as lights. the mothership uses somekind of stealth technology to reflect and refract the light so it gets invisible. but when the mothership is moving a bit, it is possible to see its structure.

at another time in the movie, a man, alien or something else, appears on the mothership or behind it (or somewhere else...). then the alien or what it is, walks into the direction of the lights, kneels down, and then runs (very fast) away.

More details and TORRENT download

Downloading now, hope it's interesting!

Even a cursory look through suggests the lights (I saw, at most, 4 simultaneously) are in front of, or projected on to, the trees. For those who are suggesting torches, unlikely. There are frames where the light is green (00:12:03). I also noticed that smoke from one of the chalets occults the lights. That suggests the light isn't being reflected off the window from the inside of the house.

My best guess is several 75-125mW astronomy lasers reflected against the mountain side. However why anyone would do this sporadically for nearly 47 minutes is a bit baffling. Also purchasing several astronomical lasers (red, green, etc), would start to add up.

Or maybe we're seeing the Hessdalen lights? "One explanation attributes the phenomenon to an incompletely understood combustion process in the air involving clouds of dust from the valley floor containing scandium." (1)

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Frankly the footage is good enough that it warrants sending to an atmospheric / optical physicist for real analysis.

[edit on 7-6-2009 by Xtraeme]

Originally posted by warrenb
length: ~46min
April 2009 at 15:00 (3:00pm) in Switzerland

2.95 Gb Raw Unedited video footage of UFO's and some sort of entity.

Amazing !
link

Originally posted by Lebowski achiever
reply to post by Truth hunter

 

Here it is.

Thanks, Buddy

Judging the inconsistency of the lights, could be someone burning magnesium ribbons.

You can definitely see something or someone moving about in the woods early in the video and at the end.

this is the video Enjoy






[edit on 7-6-2009 by avimoas]

reply to post by warrenb


Well that was a waste of 3G to see lights in the mountains

'you city folk really should get out more.

Zelong.

Really, i am starting get really tired with the whole ufo stuff. It makes me run away from ATS when another AMAZING UFO VIDEO 100% PROOF!!! is posted and is nothing more but a crappy, blurry moving pixel. I want to believe, i really do, but please wake me up again when you have something worthy.

Originally posted by errorist
Really, i am starting get really tired with the whole ufo stuff. It makes me run away from ATS when another AMAZING UFO VIDEO 100% PROOF!!! is posted and is nothing more but a crappy, blurry moving pixel. I want to believe, i really do, but please wake me up again when you have something worthy.

Not to flame, but have you stopped to consider not all UFOs represent alien aircraft? In this instance we have very interesting tropospheric scintillation. As far as I'm aware this is the first time such a thing has been recorded, at this level of quality, for such an extended period of time.

If this is the Hessdalen lights, it would be nice to see a photometric analysis measuring the luminous power of the light source (I'm betting it's about 100 mW - 1kW). I'd also be curious to learn the composition of a ground sample. Back in 2002 when an Italian team (Museo del Dipartimento di Fisica, Universita' di Bologna) investigated Hessdalen they found "anomalous iron sphere[s] of micrometric dimensions." They suspected the illumination was artificial, created by various chemical elements (specifically silicon).

Just because a UFO doesn't suggest alien life, doesn't mean that it's not interesting.

[edit on 8-6-2009 by Xtraeme]

Originally posted by Xtraeme

Originally posted by errorist
Really, i am starting get really tired with the whole ufo stuff. It makes me run away from ATS when another AMAZING UFO VIDEO 100% PROOF!!! is posted and is nothing more but a crappy, blurry moving pixel. I want to believe, i really do, but please wake me up again when you have something worthy.

Not to flame, but have you stopped to consider not all UFOs represent alien aircraft? In this instance we have very interesting tropospheric scintillation. As far as I'm aware this is the first time such a thing has been recorded, at this level of quality, for such an extended period of time.

If this is the Hessdalen lights, it would be nice to see a photometric analysis measuring the luminous power of the light source (I'm betting it's about 100 mW - 1kW). I'd also be curious to learn the composition of a ground sample. Back in 2002 when an Italian team (Museo del Dipartimento di Fisica, Universita' di Bologna) investigated Hessdalen they found "anomalous iron sphere[s] of micrometric dimensions." They suspected the illumination was artificial, created by various chemical elements (specifically silicon).

Just because a UFO doesn't suggest alien life, doesn't mean that it's not interesting.

[edit on 8-6-2009 by Xtraeme]

Hi Xtraeme I agree fully with errorist I just couldn't be bothered to post my true feelings after downloading 3G of rubbish, now the threads head line is
Amazing un-edited UFO video from Switzerland

But there is NO UFO at All it could of been head lined as UMO or as you mentioned "tropospheric scintillation" if the OP had watched the footage before they posted it this would not of been posted at all.

Gota love the end part when the lights decided to go back down the mountain as it was time for bed.


Zelong.

Those are terrestrial UFOs. They have been around since the 1950s in various models.

Same crafts in the footage and in many other videos:

Similar UFO footage at this link:
videolog.uol.com.br...

Originally posted by Zelong

Originally posted by Xtraeme

Originally posted by errorist
Really, i am starting get really tired with the whole ufo stuff. It makes me run away from ATS when another AMAZING UFO VIDEO 100% PROOF!!! is posted and is nothing more but a crappy, blurry moving pixel. I want to believe, i really do, but please wake me up again when you have something worthy.

Not to flame, but have you stopped to consider not all UFOs represent alien aircraft? In this instance we have very interesting tropospheric scintillation. As far as I'm aware this is the first time such a thing has been recorded, at this level of quality, for such an extended period of time.

If this is the Hessdalen lights, it would be nice to see a photometric analysis measuring the luminous power of the light source (I'm betting it's about 100 mW - 1kW). I'd also be curious to learn the composition of a ground sample. Back in 2002 when an Italian team (Museo del Dipartimento di Fisica, Universita' di Bologna) investigated Hessdalen they found "anomalous iron sphere[s] of micrometric dimensions." They suspected the illumination was artificial, created by various chemical elements (specifically silicon).

Just because a UFO doesn't suggest alien life, doesn't mean that it's not interesting.

[edit on 8-6-2009 by Xtraeme]

Hi Xtraeme I agree fully with errorist I just couldn't be bothered to post my true feelings after downloading 3G of rubbish, now the threads head line is
Amazing un-edited UFO video from Switzerland

But there is NO UFO at All it could of been head lined as UMO

or as you mentioned "tropospheric scintillation" if the OP had watched the footage before they posted it this would not of been posted at all.

Gota love the end part when the lights decided to go back down the mountain as it was time for bed.

Zelong.

reply to post by CoolBlackHole


Not sure why you think the bird is in the woods, it's between the camera and the lights that are being filmed, so it's probably flying above the trees.
As for the speed, birds fly fast, if it's a bird. You can't distinguish what it is or isn't, and it's relative speed is dependent on how close it is to the camera.

reply to post by Lebowski achiever


First, thanks much for taking the time to upload this video.

At 1:15 you can see a human/humanoid move from the left of the lights, toward them. The gait looks human to me, however they move very quickly for dense forest.

Originally posted by Zelong
Hi Xtraeme I agree fully with errorist I just couldn't be bothered to post my true feelings after downloading 3G of rubbish, now the threads head line is
Amazing un-edited UFO video from Switzerland

So when you say the word UFO you mean alien spacecraft, correct?

But there is NO UFO at All it could of been head lined as UMO

or as you mentioned "tropospheric scintillation"

By your definition of UFO, implying alien spacecraft, absolutely.

However I use the word UFO in a very different manner. In short when I say UFO I mean "the steps in a process to identify an unidentified aerial object." Or to graphically illustrate the concept,

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I admit my usage is a bit uncommon, but altogether fitting and far more useful than the other definitions since it qualifies the steps with their own distinct names (sighting, confirmation, position, & identification). I'd classify this UFO sighting as an AP-UFOP with a small chance of it being a hoax.

Based on what you've written, I take it that your UFO position for this specific case is hoax?

if the OP had watched the footage before they posted it this would not of been posted at all.

You're probably right and I find that damn sad. In my mind anything unidentified is exciting new territory that should be interesting not just to scientists, but every day people. It's frustrating that when a "UFO" sighting suggests something less extraordinary than alien visitation people could seem to care less (take this thread for example).

I also find this sadly telling.

Gota love the end part when the lights decided to go back down the mountain as it was time for bed.

Huh so you saw the lights visibly move down the mountain-side? You have better eyes than me. Which frame #s exactly? The lights seemed localized to a fairly specific patch based on the few reference points I inserted in to the video. There was a lateral shift right to left from 42:xx to 44:xx, but that was the last significant movement before the show ended.

[edit on 9-6-2009 by Xtraeme]

reply to post by avimoas


thanks for posting the youtube videos





[edit on 9-6-2009 by warrenb]

This one really disappointed me. I'm lost where in the video, but sometime after 8:30 when he zooms in on the forest, you can see a person walk from what I am assuming to be a jeep (the lights) to the left of them. I would guess maybe a game warden or something, maybe someone checking traps? Who knows...

Also, the high rate of speed UFO in the video that was capped for 4 frames... Ever see a bird fly by a zoomed line of sight?

I love good UFO videos, but this is a waste of hard drive space.

The Contradictory Claims by a certain individual phil.bad regarding his footage.
Dissecting an unsubstantiating story.

This guy claims the following: “it seems that there is one big invisible mothership”

Well Mr. Phil, if it is indeed a big invisible mothership out there how do you know it or
should I say, how did you see it? Elemental sir.

CLAIM: “the mothership uses somekind of stealth technology to reflect and refract the
light so it gets invisible. but when the mothership is moving a bit, it is possible to see its
structure”

Again how do you know this if the alleged mothership is invisible and second, how do
you know the alleged mothership uses stealth technology? What evidence (that you
didn't provide) proves your claim? Finally, if this alleged invisible mothership you claim
to see (?) shows itself in the video as you also claim why don't you provide a
videoframe, a still picture or anything to prove such extraordinary claim.

CLAIM: “at another time in the movie, a man, alien or something else, appears on the
mothership or behind it (or somewhere else…)”

Really? Well this is funny indeed, let's see. Your alleged man or alien WAS on the
invisible mothership, behind it or somewhere else, what is it going to be Mr. Phil?
Make up your mind please sir, on the invisible mothership or behind it? Somewhere
else means around the whole forest NOT near your mothership right? Once again what
is it going to be sir? It seems your mind is playing you tricks so take a decision.

CLAIM: “Then the alien or what it is, walks into the direction of the lights, kneels down,
and then runs (very fast) away.”

Well Mr. Phil I was under the impression that this alleged alien was aboard the invisible
mothership or behind it wich by the way, if the alleged alien was behind the invisible
mothership how didi you see him? I wonder. Anyway, back to the tale. So you say this
alien walks and then kneels down to finally run again, really? Then I must say you have
one hell of a vision because in your footage the story is very different, in fact your
footage tells a completely different story of the one you are telling here. It shows only
some red lights in the forest WITHOUT moving but as far as I'm concerned No invisible
mothership, no man or alien here, just those small lights in the forest and some zooms
in and out with the camera..... and that's all, funny story you are telling Mr. Phil but I'm
afraid you have a hell of an imagination sir. You should know that Ufology needs scores
more than just this alleged evidence of those extraordinary claims you can't prove.

Conclusion: This story from Switzerland sounds like a bad joke or an hallucinated tale
by someone who got confused, mistaken by some irrelevant lights in some forest that
could have been anything but an invisible mothership with an alien being doing some
fancy movements. To download that torrent would result in a deception so think twice
before wasting valious time and space in your computer hard drive. Nothing substantial
here, just another attempt to get some minutes of fame on the Internet.

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