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Originally posted by DustintheWind
Hello everyone!
I thought I would share this experience with you and see if anyone else has had this happen to them. I have been practicing on having OOBE's for the last couple of years without much success. I have achieved seperation 3 times but to only watch my wife and I sleeping, never going anywhere else (astral) and then slamming back into my body when I try to move away. Well this last time I think I closed our door to the bedroom! My wife usually leaves it open so she can hear the kids at night, and so the cats can have free reign. I always like to shut it when I go to bed though, cause I can't sleep with any noises, and I like the darkness. Ayways to make a long story short, before the last OOBE I experienced, I remember the door being open when I went to bed. I acheived seperation, was again looking at myself and my wife asleep. I can remember looking around our room but stopped when I noticed the door was open. I said to myself, I wish that door was closed! To my surprise the door closed! Rather loud too because it woke my wife up which in turn brought me out of my OOBE. To this day she still thinks it was one of the kids that did it. I don't want to bother telling her I think it was me until I can prove that this is possible to do in an OOBE. Does anyone have thoughts or opinions/experiences with this?
DitW
Originally posted by Clarky
I think we ought to have a lucid dreaming thread myself I'd love to share some of my lucid dreams that I have.. they always involve flying and telekinesis and experimenting.
Originally posted by rekar
well if you believe in mind over matter, yes you can bring things back. of course it is very very very etc... hard. but im sure can be done
edit - hehe forgot the rest. now as i was saying... im not sure if it has been done. the way to do it i will leave to you to find.... if you have any more questions ill answer
Originally posted by Chris6
This is an excellant book for OOBE guidance & instructions on how to:
Out-Of-Body Adventures, by Rick Stack
Originally posted by think2much
Originally posted by rekar
well if you believe in mind over matter, yes you can bring things back. of course it is very very very etc... hard. but im sure can be done
edit - hehe forgot the rest. now as i was saying... im not sure if it has been done. the way to do it i will leave to you to find.... if you have any more questions ill answer
um....no! I don't want to find out! I was thinking more along the lines of bringin a spirit back, or not an actual spirit, but...how would I describe it...something like evil, or unpersonalifed negative energy etc...yk?
I hadf a lucid dream and when I awke for quite some time the negative energy of my dream was present-by sight and "feeling" and I wasn't sure...did it originate in my physical world, and penetrate my dream...or...did it come through my lucid dream into my physical world, as I becgan to consciously wake myself because the evil in my dream was scarying me
SOme talk has been made that OOBE and lusid dreaming may be more connected than I realized...because though we know what a lucid dream is, it doesn't mean, you are NOT OOB when experiencing it, or any dream...
AP to another plane etc of course isn't a lucid dream-it's reality...but "reality" seems to be a more subjective term I am realizing...
also, if we are to split hairs about OOBE and lucid dreaming...who is to say that doors do not exist betwen the two...
so I just wondering about these doors...all these doors...and what happens when we pass back through them from one state-whatever it may be...and another...
[edit on 22-1-2006 by think2much]
no one, not even was I trying to imply they/it (negative energy isn't already here...but how does one pass from their realm to ours is more my concern.
Originally posted by rekar
well, in that case, who says they arent already here?
Originally posted by rekarFrom What I was tought(and this comes from a long line of teaching, from Alot over at gnosticweb.org) the astral is the fifth dimension, it is the same as the 3rd(where we are currently) but without some restrictions(Gravity for one). when you dram, you are there. when you AP, you go there. when you die, for a short period, yes, you go there. Now apparently the 2 dimensions are hand in hand, the only 'door' is how to consiously get there(when you dream, your not, thats why some feel almost real)
Originally posted by think2much
no one, not even was I trying to imply they/it (negative energy isn't already here...but how does one pass from their realm to ours is more my concern.
Originally posted by rekar
well, in that case, who says they arent already here?
Originally posted by rekarFrom What I was tought(and this comes from a long line of teaching, from Alot over at gnosticweb.org) the astral is the fifth dimension, it is the same as the 3rd(where we are currently) but without some restrictions(Gravity for one). when you dram, you are there. when you AP, you go there. when you die, for a short period, yes, you go there. Now apparently the 2 dimensions are hand in hand, the only 'door' is how to consiously get there(when you dream, your not, thats why some feel almost real)
well, yes this is how most people perceive things I believe-different dimensions=different planes=different "reality" but all reality...it's the doors I speak of...if we can easily move through them, and do so inadvertantly in everyday dreaming-can they as easily pass through? Or through usually through our doors, or only through more powerful pulls like lucid dreaming or AP conscious OOBE's is my question-wondering if we havae any knowledge/experience of how that plays out, you know?