I declare upon the universal laws that the elite...

Its not a fight to be fought. Its an attention to their esoteric knowledge. That if they continue their path of destruction it will only hit them worser due to the universal laws.
Its not about living off the land. Its about going back to our pristine origins and rebuilding paradise.
They work to downgrade the human conciousness. So if you want to understand what their esoteric knowledge is about its actually about lowering our conciousness so that we never find out who we really are and are capable of being.
Their secret is to actually find out if God will come to save the earth if it goes to destruction. But they realise it its not possible due to God not meddling with human free will. If he did meddle it will only prove to them that God's creation are imperfect and not in likeness with God.
God is waiting and knows his people will turn back to him. He will nto save us from the brink of destruction we can only do that ourselves.
If you read up on history it goes all the way back to the levites and serving of Moloch their destructive God, the dark energies.
Throughout history they knw they will lose the battle to the light eventually. They will never ever know God's secret to creation as much as they try to find out.



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Ok, I've read the "universal laws".

Now correct me if I'm wrong, but, as I understand them, in order to end the rule of the "elite" all that is necessary is for us to just let them keep doing what they're doing and the "universal laws" will crush them under the weight of their own intentions. As they breed evil and negativity, the "laws" will see to it that they will be engulfed in more of the same, thus ending their reign.

So how long does it take the "universal laws" to kick in with their karmic retribution?

Just as long as you guys know there is no such thing as karma. Something is going on in this universe, but our limited intellect cannot understand it.

Originally posted by subject x
Ok, I've read the "universal laws".

Now correct me if I'm wrong, but, as I understand them, in order to end the rule of the "elite" all that is necessary is for us to just let them keep doing what they're doing and the "universal laws" will crush them under the weight of their own intentions. As they breed evil and negativity, the "laws" will see to it that they will be engulfed in more of the same, thus ending their reign.

So how long does it take the "universal laws" to kick in with their karmic retribution?

We do have a part to play in this. Its called 'waking up' and by waking up it means 'collective conciousness towards our divine origins toward the light of God which can defeat this.

Few people will understand what im on about until they read the ringing cedars otherwise if you dont want compacted answers then you will need to read up alot on history. The direction we are heading and what they are trully doing to our conciousness behinds the scenes from stopping us seeking our divinity.

Few egs of how they are doing it is through media, tempering our food and water, lowering our education standards etc etc.

To understand God and his creation you need to understand that he created through thought the universe and earth and some people call it the universal mind and gave humans the same abilities. So yes the universe has a big part to play in what humans are capable of. The dark energies serve to shut this down.

The more people awaken to the truth and implement it in their lives the more we are able to defeat what they are trully trying to do to humans.

The book describes a way out of the system they locked us in the way out of the matrix.

An example of downgrading human conciousness is you would say simply the destruction of the economy. With the destruction of the economy comes great depression of the people. When people's conciousness is lowered in this way and everyone has the same attitude and thought toward depression. The humans are infact invountarily creating a collective conciousness of chaos for the dark energies. So what follows depression follows chaos. The sooner we wake up to the fact of what they the shadow energies are doing the quicker we can resolve it by changing our energy to that which serves a purpose for good. Since we a capable of creating with our thought and changing the energy of the universe to that of light. We do need to put it into practice and change our ways and change our thoughts.

People who were able to create and manifest things by thought are inventors. Our technologies today are manifested by thought. By understanding this you understand how powerful human thought is. We need to speed the process of our throughts and dreams and aspirations and them implement them into our lives. Which the basic universal laws teach.

It cant be done alone. It needs to be done through connection as one, human to human awakening. Just like the media are helping to do it virally for the dark energies(lowering our conciousness through fear).





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Thankyou Kosmickjack i really appreciate it.

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Yep, I've read the Ringing Cedars. It did nothing for me, seemed like a lot of drivel.

It's pretty obvious to me from things you've written here that you and I have very different world views, and that there won't be much middle ground we can agree upon. But that's cool. We're all entitled to believe whatever we want.

Enjoy.

Ringing cedars book 1:
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Ringing cedars book 2:
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The first editions when they were made into english were not translated into proper english comprehension. The second edition with the newer covers were revised to proper english reading. So the first book will seem like drivel.
I definately thank the translators hard work for trying to get them in English. If it sounds like drivel so be it.

Yes i have my experiences and you have yours. To me those books have said to me more about the system we live in and about life then any of the past priests i have listened too at church.

It has opened my eyes to see more then i could actually grasp in my surroundings. To question authority, to question our way of life and to think outside the box. Just like ATSer's. I realise it also explains how to break away from the system we are held under.

Its good book to open many discussions and point references. It gives a deep understanding to me about our earth and the universe. It opens my mind how we could be as humans.

It does not hold back in talking about what all Atser's talk about especially on topics such as UFO's , what technologies we can create and possess, our divine abilities, co-creating with God, bringing the world back to paradise.

If you find it boring someone out there will find the information extroadinary and start researching it themselves. These book have helped me research many subjects from GMO's, UFO's, Divine thought, history, etc etc.

This book has not even hit mainstream yet but has sold over 10 million by word of mouth.

Why would mainstream not want these books to be known?
Most probably money and the fact men wont be dependent on the system but be able to be self sufficient if they find out.

The books have made it into the whitehouse library but not mainstream and it begs the question who would it hurt.






[edit on 7-6-2009 by Applesandoranges]

I concur!!! You guys are the best! great thread....

I think our love and unity for each other can take over...

I believe we can help each other and stop relying on THEM, but to turn to each other instead!

I feel the time is NOW, and we are only going to go UP from here, no matter WHAT it looks like!
www.youtube.com...




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That was a sweet video mellisamouse thankyou for posting, love the music too.

Just coming back to say your videos are amazing. Exactly the information i want to get across, i will be showing friends. I loved the nature food one and how it resembles different human parts and that it benefits those. It is the sort of information i too wanted to get across since being a raw foodist and all.

Im amazed how similar our thoughts are which proves that if we all wake up to the information we will see that we are all one.



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